FileFront Forums - Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)

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teachers are trained in teaching.

I would question the value of this training when they are chained to the national curriculum.

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Parents arn't. I realy don't learn much from my parents I learn from books and internet.

Good thing, learning for yourself

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50% of the kids here said 14-15 years old for first date. The homeschoolers answerd "Over 18" Or said never. This is a example of social skills.

It's a good thing that home-educators do these things later in life I'm willing to wager that there is a lower rate of teenage pregnancy among home-educated children.

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The average level of academic achievement in Christian home schools at present looks good only when compared with the disastrously poor results currently the norm in public schools.

What else would you compare it to?
You are admitting that home schools look good when compared to public school.

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While it is true that SAT scores are a little higher for home schools than for public schools, the average public school child comes from a generally poorer home environment and a school environment that is not conducive to learning.

Oh please, it doesnt mater what background you come from, it's what you make of you're life that is important not how rich you're parents are.

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Teachers dedicate years to formal education that prepares them for future teaching experiences. They are state certified,

People are state certified to drive, but not all of them should be allowed behind a wheel, they might run a kid over and so might a teacher run a kids education over.

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Home schooling is not beneficial to children because the parents are tampering with their children's future education.

Any action has a reaction, sending a child to school is also an action that would tamper with their children's future education as surely as educating them at home.

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Parents who choose to teach their children at home are taking on a large responsibility, which they may not be equipped to handle. People who are for home schooling bring up the argument that they want to monitor their child's development. This is simply not true; they want to control their children by monitoring their child's every move.

Have you seen the extremes of liberalism that some home-educators have?
Some parents have a very liberal attitude towards their children, some would say to liberal.

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Often times when home schooling is applied, children grow up to feel resentment towards their parents and isolate their true feelings and ideas from them. My neighbor Jane Doe, who I interviewed, was home schooled. She told me she felt like she was in jail.

"Jane, how did you feel when you were being home schooled?"

"I felt like I was in jail, a home jail, not a home school."

She also told me that her relationship with her parents was strong until she started getting home schooled. The more and more she was home schooled the more her relationship with her parents started deteriorating and the more resentment she started feeling towards them.

There are lots of positive stories about it as well
http://www.education-otherwise.org/Y...ple/Views1.htm

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In a household where children learn, there are usually one or two parents teaching. Parents of home schooling use the argument that they do not want their children to be exposed to an assortment of ideas.

Interesting, a pity its pure bullshit.
My parents insisted I learn about other religions I even had to read the bible (what a waste of time that was) and the history of other people's cultures we take trips abroad and learn a little bit of the language I would say it's much more diverse than if I went to school.

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That is the problem with home schooling. The children do not receive an assortment of opinions and ideas. The teaching is one sided and lacks exposure to different ways people think.

It depends on how you're parents work, but I find I get a far wider range of ideas than I did at school, where the word of a book was sacrosanct and if you contradicted or questioned it even with proof, you were just a stupid person, to young to know better.

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The children have fewer opportunities to socially interact with other peers. It is important a child has exposure with peers. Studies of self-esteem and social adjustment indicate that home-educated children are more likely to be socially and psychologically unhealthy (Montgomery, 1989; Shyers, 1992; Taylor 1986). Social interaction is an important part of a child's development.

I hated my peers whilst I was at school, all they did was attack and bully me, I got into more than one fight without taking any hostile action other than to defend myself, (after all these years I still dont know where that last punch came from) and I don't fancy repeating the experience but I know I would fight if attacked and probably make a better job of it than last time.

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Parents who are against public schools use the argument that they want to isolate their children to protect them from any outside peer influences. Peer influences such as drugs, and crimes but this is just not true. Sheltering children from such influences will not make these problems disappear. Later on in a child's life when he or she grows up they will have to go to a college or a university and they will encounter these same peer influences and not know how to handle them. Parents are not protecting their children but hurting them in the long run.

The children will be better equipped to handle these, having been exposed to the facts before the, I'm not quite sure what word to use here considering my opinion on drugs but I think I'll have to use, "filth."

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Traditional schooling is not as dismal as some think. Public schools offer a structured education, clubs, and after school activities for children.

Yeah structured education meaning the national curriculum which controls and limits a childs learning to that which is state approved, yet earlier you criticised parents for wanting to control their children, who would you rather have control you're children a nearly fascist right wing government, or a caring parent? A parent who must care, because they are giving up their time and money to teach this child.

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Qualified teachers instruct students during their education.

But what constitutes "qualified?" My mother has qualified as a teacher and she is of the opinion that teachers are under trained and overpaid for the actual work.

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Educating a child is important, and traditional schooling is the best choice a parent can make.

You're entitled to you're opinion, but it doesnt mean I wont try and talk you out of it ;)

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The parents that teach home schooling are taking a step backwards in education.

Quite the opposite, we are taking the next step forwards in the evolution of education. More and more people are flocking to our banner, heading the cry that school is not compulsory, there is a better, brighter future for you're children, one where they will be free to pursue whatever education and schools of learning and philosophy they see fit, one of freedom and new idea's.

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Home schooling parents want to shelter and control their isolated children but in doing that they lose sight of their true objective which is their child's education.

Very clever statement that one, the way its worded, but.
There are many factors that say that a parent should be able to control there children incidents of teenage vandalism and theft arson and other serious crimes are on the rise, soon the government plans to close a "loophole" in the law that allows the smacking of children, the only way to control you're children will be through emotions and love rather than smacking and a loud voice, without school you have a better chance to bond with you're children and foster these feelings, I certainly would never have felt as close to my parents without home school, I see them as having rescued me from a wasted life and if I fail I will not blame them it is me who succeeds and fails, yet I feel they are the best people to help me shine.

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If parents were truly concerned with their child's education they would send their child to a public school.

And if public school teachers were qualified and there was no bullying a free exchange of ideas and you werent treated like shit by the teachers that might have some point.
Do you know that when I entered school I couldnt write? And nobody bothered to teach me, it wasnt until my father found me in a somewhat miserable state, (about half a year later I might add) and asked me what the mater was that anyone outside of school knew, I told him that the teacher was angry with me because I couldnt write, he took me aside and taught me how to write, (I remember at school trying to copy the top movement of someones pen in the hopes I would be able to figure it out,) Without this single act of teaching which happened not by a teacher, but by my parent's, I probably wouldnt be where I am today, I wonder if you would be where you are without home-education after all it has made you who you are, do you feel you are not a worthwhile person to create?