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Nemmerle June 5th, 2004 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vivanolaq
the phrase was worded poorly. Wat is ment is that one can lern throughout life wat 1 can lern in skool, but 1 cant lern society l8ter in life cuz no1 will tlk 2 u cuz u suk and don't no the rules.

Yes I suk at society, cuz no one will, tlk 2 me...
I get along fine with plenty of people, you on the other hand, while you might get along well with plenty of people, have clearly have failed to master basic English, this leads me to the conclusion you are not learning through life and need to go and retake most of you're education, in a more productive manner this time, for example at home...

vivanolaq June 5th, 2004 08:21 AM

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i have a great education. i am too damned smart for my own good. do you want to know who did this to me? the United States government started it, then the United States Navy finished it. smartest guy in the world is stephen hawking, he was not homeschooled. the psychological point of view is that if a child is denied its chance to grow and evolve with other children at an early age it will be lacking the social development needed to get along later in life. that is not my argument, that is the argument of my psyops buddy. & shut ur fac bout how i b talkin.

LIGHTNING [NL] June 5th, 2004 09:58 AM

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Smart people start sentences with capital letters :rolleyes:.

Nemmerle June 5th, 2004 10:46 AM

Re: Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)
 
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Originally Posted by vivanolaq
smartest guy in the world is stephen hawking, he was not homeschooled.

And this has bearing on the argument, why?
He is, lets face it, not the typical representation of someone who has been through the public school system.

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Originally Posted by vivanolaq
the psychological point of view is that if a child is denied its chance to grow and evolve with other children at an early age it will be lacking the social development needed to get along later in life. that is not my argument, that is the argument of my psyops buddy.

If it was the argument of god all mighty it wouldn't make it any more valid.
The facts, after all, would clearly indicate that people who have been to university have trouble socialising with others outside of that environment, however the majority of children who go to university have been through a public school system and by you're friends argument should be able to socialise correctly in latter life.

vivanolaq June 5th, 2004 05:19 PM

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I'm an American. Never once in my life have I heard the phrase "go to university". I am presuming that you mean goes to college. And over here across the pond, college students have no problem what so ever socialising. In fact they excel at it. I don't know how things work over there on the islands, but here college students seem to be the least shy. And an enormously small amount of them are homechooled. As for me bring up Hawking, that was to prove that quality of education is not all that contributes to an intelligence. Sure he isn't typical, but who gives a damn.

Nemmerle June 5th, 2004 06:25 PM

Re: Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)
 
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Originally Posted by vivanolaq
I'm an American. Never once in my life have I heard the phrase "go to university". I am presuming that you mean goes to college. And over here across the pond, college students have no problem what so ever socialising. In fact they excel at it. I don't know how things work over there on the islands, but here college students seem to be the least shy. And an enormously small amount of them are homechooled.

Less people home school, the smaller amount is to be expected and thus cannot be used to judge their social maturity.
Home schooling people I have met seem to be the least shy and much easier to get along with, but I'am told they have trouble socialising, quid pro quo.

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As for me bring up Hawking, that was to prove that quality of education is not all that contributes to an intelligence.

You are however assuming that because he was not home educated his education was in some way, deficient, interesting...

Mast3rofPuppets June 5th, 2004 06:30 PM

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So how does this homeschooling works anyway? Enlighten me because I have no idea how it works.

Do you have teachers comming home to your house? And what about the arts and crafts lessions?

Nemmerle June 5th, 2004 06:52 PM

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So how does this homeschooling works anyway? Enlighten me because I have no idea how it works.

Do you have teachers comming home to your house? And what about the arts and crafts lessions?

It all depends on you're parents, very few parents actually hire a teacher to teach their children this is after all one of the things leaving school helps to avoid, usually you either teach yourself, or you're parents teach you. There are many camps you can go to, (at least here in England,) for socialising and there are many activities at those camps to enjoy together.
Arts and craft lessons are one of the easier things to teach, you need paper and pencil, or any other tool and or medium you care to use, then you just *shrugs* create, you cannot after all teach people to have a creative soul you can help them express it but ultimately it is there creativity and vision, this is something which cant be taught in a conventional sense, although the person supervising you will sometimes ask for a picture of a specific thing or concept, this again depends on who is teaching you.

pInK_eLePhAnT June 5th, 2004 07:18 PM

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how would you do any sciences? i mean, you can take notes and learn all the theory, but what about lab work?

Mast3rofPuppets June 5th, 2004 07:20 PM

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Ohh, I meant woodwork, not art and crafts, my translation site is kinda fucked up...

Nemmerle June 5th, 2004 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pInK_eLePhAnT
how would you do any sciences? i mean, you can take notes and learn all the theory, but what about lab work?

You can get chemicals very cheap if you know where to look, although the government probably think I'm making a bomb or something.
Physics the basic principals can be shown very easily if you need that sort of visual aid and the rest is mostly theory anyway.
Biology, lab work is rather important here, so get rabbits fish etc (not processed one's) and open them up to examine.

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Originally Posted by Mast3rofPuppets
Ohh, I meant woodwork, not art and crafts

Well wood work, you get a lump of wood and a sharp knife and carve, or you can make benches tables etc, just using a saw and a few screws and nails, or glue if you dont want the screw / nail head to show, although there are ways round this most of the time, maybe some varnish to finish it off, make some nice edges with a router, (not the LAN kind.)

vivanolaq June 5th, 2004 08:31 PM

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by Ged
You are however assuming that because he was not home educated his education was in some way, deficient, interesting...
I'm not saying that his education is deficient, I'm saying that it doesn't matter.
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by Ged
Less people home school, the smaller amount is to be expected and thus cannot be used to judge their social maturity.
Home schooling people I have met seem to be the least shy and much easier to get along with, but I'am told they have trouble socialising, quid pro quo.
Im not speaking of people when they are 40. hopefully you have learned society by then, but at 15-20 you lack the societal (i think I made up that word) upbringing to fully nuture the gift that is being a teenager.

Nemmerle June 5th, 2004 09:12 PM

Re: Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)
 
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Originally Posted by vivanolaq
Im not speaking of people when they are 40. hopefully you have learned society by then, but at 15-20 you lack the societal (i think I made up that word) upbringing to fully nuture the gift that is being a teenager.

*Small grin to self* It's certainly an interesting time, a gift however, hmm, well in a way I suppose it is, a little extra time to get become accustomed to life has always been welcome, It doesn't really need nurturing though, it just happens all you can do is sit back, enjoy the ride and try not to stick you're head out the window (make a life altering screw up.)

You know how old you feel however, when you see all those people going off to war and think, "my god there just children."

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You cant say it doesnt matter unless you have a home educated Hawking to compare him with.

!moof June 6th, 2004 12:51 AM

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I like having gone to public schools (well, Department of Defense schools, but not much of a difference there). I met many people who were unlike those who I interacted in my neighborhood, such as people who couldn't speak English well, people with less money than sense, people with more money than sense, rich kids, popular kids, stupid kids, kids who were smart but had never gotten any help and so were ignorant, or even afraid, of their intelligence. I taught a Vietnamese kid on my bus how to read. This helped prepare me for interaction with society at large. As a military officer, it allows me to more easily interact with those unlike myself, allowing common bonds to form that improve morale and effectiveness. I tried homeschooling in third grade, but I hated it, for I am a social creature. I feel that most homeschooled kids lose the chance at a diverse and strange environment, which makes them less adaptable.

Napalm June 6th, 2004 04:41 AM

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Which Dod schools did you go to?


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