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I can't believe it either, but I've heard of it happening..:S

And about the font: I sorry, I didn't mean to use white, it was black for some reason. :confused: and I couldn't see it on the skin I'm using so I changed it to white. Sorry bout that...:uhm:

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teachers are trained in teaching.

I would question the value of this training when they are chained to the national curriculum.

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Parents arn't. I realy don't learn much from my parents I learn from books and internet.

Good thing, learning for yourself

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50% of the kids here said 14-15 years old for first date. The homeschoolers answerd "Over 18" Or said never. This is a example of social skills.

It's a good thing that home-educators do these things later in life I'm willing to wager that there is a lower rate of teenage pregnancy among home-educated children.

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The average level of academic achievement in Christian home schools at present looks good only when compared with the disastrously poor results currently the norm in public schools.

What else would you compare it to?
You are admitting that home schools look good when compared to public school.

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While it is true that SAT scores are a little higher for home schools than for public schools, the average public school child comes from a generally poorer home environment and a school environment that is not conducive to learning.

Oh please, it doesnt mater what background you come from, it's what you make of you're life that is important not how rich you're parents are.

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Teachers dedicate years to formal education that prepares them for future teaching experiences. They are state certified,

People are state certified to drive, but not all of them should be allowed behind a wheel, they might run a kid over and so might a teacher run a kids education over.

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Home schooling is not beneficial to children because the parents are tampering with their children's future education.

Any action has a reaction, sending a child to school is also an action that would tamper with their children's future education as surely as educating them at home.

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Parents who choose to teach their children at home are taking on a large responsibility, which they may not be equipped to handle. People who are for home schooling bring up the argument that they want to monitor their child's development. This is simply not true; they want to control their children by monitoring their child's every move.

Have you seen the extremes of liberalism that some home-educators have?
Some parents have a very liberal attitude towards their children, some would say to liberal.

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Often times when home schooling is applied, children grow up to feel resentment towards their parents and isolate their true feelings and ideas from them. My neighbor Jane Doe, who I interviewed, was home schooled. She told me she felt like she was in jail.

"Jane, how did you feel when you were being home schooled?"

"I felt like I was in jail, a home jail, not a home school."

She also told me that her relationship with her parents was strong until she started getting home schooled. The more and more she was home schooled the more her relationship with her parents started deteriorating and the more resentment she started feeling towards them.

There are lots of positive stories about it as well
http://www.education-otherwise.org/Y...ple/Views1.htm

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In a household where children learn, there are usually one or two parents teaching. Parents of home schooling use the argument that they do not want their children to be exposed to an assortment of ideas.

Interesting, a pity its pure bullshit.
My parents insisted I learn about other religions I even had to read the bible (what a waste of time that was) and the history of other people's cultures we take trips abroad and learn a little bit of the language I would say it's much more diverse than if I went to school.

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That is the problem with home schooling. The children do not receive an assortment of opinions and ideas. The teaching is one sided and lacks exposure to different ways people think.

It depends on how you're parents work, but I find I get a far wider range of ideas than I did at school, where the word of a book was sacrosanct and if you contradicted or questioned it even with proof, you were just a stupid person, to young to know better.

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The children have fewer opportunities to socially interact with other peers. It is important a child has exposure with peers. Studies of self-esteem and social adjustment indicate that home-educated children are more likely to be socially and psychologically unhealthy (Montgomery, 1989; Shyers, 1992; Taylor 1986). Social interaction is an important part of a child's development.

I hated my peers whilst I was at school, all they did was attack and bully me, I got into more than one fight without taking any hostile action other than to defend myself, (after all these years I still dont know where that last punch came from) and I don't fancy repeating the experience but I know I would fight if attacked and probably make a better job of it than last time.

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Parents who are against public schools use the argument that they want to isolate their children to protect them from any outside peer influences. Peer influences such as drugs, and crimes but this is just not true. Sheltering children from such influences will not make these problems disappear. Later on in a child's life when he or she grows up they will have to go to a college or a university and they will encounter these same peer influences and not know how to handle them. Parents are not protecting their children but hurting them in the long run.

The children will be better equipped to handle these, having been exposed to the facts before the, I'm not quite sure what word to use here considering my opinion on drugs but I think I'll have to use, "filth."

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Traditional schooling is not as dismal as some think. Public schools offer a structured education, clubs, and after school activities for children.

Yeah structured education meaning the national curriculum which controls and limits a childs learning to that which is state approved, yet earlier you criticised parents for wanting to control their children, who would you rather have control you're children a nearly fascist right wing government, or a caring parent? A parent who must care, because they are giving up their time and money to teach this child.

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Qualified teachers instruct students during their education.

But what constitutes "qualified?" My mother has qualified as a teacher and she is of the opinion that teachers are under trained and overpaid for the actual work.

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Educating a child is important, and traditional schooling is the best choice a parent can make.

You're entitled to you're opinion, but it doesnt mean I wont try and talk you out of it ;)

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The parents that teach home schooling are taking a step backwards in education.

Quite the opposite, we are taking the next step forwards in the evolution of education. More and more people are flocking to our banner, heading the cry that school is not compulsory, there is a better, brighter future for you're children, one where they will be free to pursue whatever education and schools of learning and philosophy they see fit, one of freedom and new idea's.

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Home schooling parents want to shelter and control their isolated children but in doing that they lose sight of their true objective which is their child's education.

Very clever statement that one, the way its worded, but.
There are many factors that say that a parent should be able to control there children incidents of teenage vandalism and theft arson and other serious crimes are on the rise, soon the government plans to close a "loophole" in the law that allows the smacking of children, the only way to control you're children will be through emotions and love rather than smacking and a loud voice, without school you have a better chance to bond with you're children and foster these feelings, I certainly would never have felt as close to my parents without home school, I see them as having rescued me from a wasted life and if I fail I will not blame them it is me who succeeds and fails, yet I feel they are the best people to help me shine.

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If parents were truly concerned with their child's education they would send their child to a public school.

And if public school teachers were qualified and there was no bullying a free exchange of ideas and you werent treated like shit by the teachers that might have some point.
Do you know that when I entered school I couldnt write? And nobody bothered to teach me, it wasnt until my father found me in a somewhat miserable state, (about half a year later I might add) and asked me what the mater was that anyone outside of school knew, I told him that the teacher was angry with me because I couldnt write, he took me aside and taught me how to write, (I remember at school trying to copy the top movement of someones pen in the hopes I would be able to figure it out,) Without this single act of teaching which happened not by a teacher, but by my parent's, I probably wouldnt be where I am today, I wonder if you would be where you are without home-education after all it has made you who you are, do you feel you are not a worthwhile person to create?

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looks to me like someone had a really bad public schooling experience. just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean everyone else does.

i don't know what school you went to where they shut you down if you have a different opinion. at my school, if you can prove a book or the teacher wrong they don't accuse us of being too young to know better.

and as for the bullying, again, just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean everyone does.
i don't know if i'm for or against home schooling. i know some people at my school who were homeschooled up until gr. 9. some of them are terribly socially inept, and others fit in just fine. so i'm not sure where i stand on it; however, i wouldn't want to be homeschooled.

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Just found another alarming sex education proposal, concerning five year old's.
the government advisors must be very strange, at that age children shouldnt know anything about it.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/scho...995943,00.html

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that's retarded. but then there's the other end of the spectrum, where gwb wants to get rid of sex ed.

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You do know that before they started teaching sex-ed teenage pregnancy was holding at a steady rate and when they started it shot up dramatically?

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fine, whatever. i guess i read it wrong, i'm goin to bed. Why dont you join me Killor? :p

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Dude, that was on topic, they were talking about what kids are taught in public schools...

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Yeah Smitty. Drop the ball and chain look, I think you look better in the pink feather boa anyway. :P

Primary sex ed is entirely B-F-S. When I was 12 I got tought by schools what a penis was, and what a vagina was. All I could do is giggle with all the big new words. Kids don't need to know that penis goes into vagina, damn it! I ended up with many more questions than when I started, and the best part about kids is their ignorance. They don't know how the world works, so they just enjoy it. We shouldn't ruin that, especially not at five years old!

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looks to me like someone had a really bad public schooling experience. just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean everyone else does.

Indeed, that's what I was thinking. And I'm of the opinion that retreating from your problems is the worst thing a person can do, but meh, whatever.

And Sporky, I'm not going to retaliate. You intelligence has already been proven when you started calling me names.

Ged, I had sex education. I haven't gotten anybody pregnant. No-one I know has gotten anybody pregnant. I never heard of anyone in my entire school getting anybody pregnant. Don't you think you're generalising somewhat? Have you heard of the German couple who were trying to have a baby, and their doctor found out they hadn't even been having sex because they didn't know what it was? I posted a thread on it in General Yib-Yab (Off Topic) as a joke, if you can remember it.

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Edit: Just noticed my other thread posted it didnt seem to have last night, Okay every one ignore this post and go to http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=127485 to continue the issue

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blahblahbalh...Have you heard of the German couple who were trying to have a baby, and their doctor found out they hadn't even been having sex because they didn't know what it was? blahlahblah

If they didn't know what sex was and they were a couple I think it'd be best if they continue thinking the stork will visit them.

FYI: This thread is dumb.

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And Sporky, I'm not going to retaliate. You intelligence has already been proven when you started calling me names.

Quite, when you start insulting/calling names, you lose the discussion :)

And I don't agree with you on the sex part Sporky, but I'm too lazy to create a new discussion. So mééééh.

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If they didn't know what sex was and they were a couple I think it'd be best if they continue thinking the stork will visit them.

Heh. Maybe you're right. Not sure if they would be furthering human evolution by breeding :lol:

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If public schools are bad, what about private schools?

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And Sporky, I'm not going to retaliate. You intelligence has already been proven when you started calling me names.

People insult my intelligence, call me stupid in a round-about way, I call them names. And Mr. Matt, your intelligence has already been proven by you accusing me of lying about my education (when I really have no reason to lie about it), and comparing me to a 10 year old who says he has a Lexus (or whatever), and "bashing" homeschooling even when you have no clue what it's like (cuz you've never been homeschooled)...never mind major generalizations...

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And I don't agree with you on the sex part Sporky, but I'm too lazy to create a new discussion. So mééééh.

hehe, I'm to lazy to start a thread too...becides, I think there already is one. :p

EDIT: Da-Ko, like I said, it depends on the school. not all public schools are "bad."

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If public schools are bad, what about private schools?

Private schools are really good, cause most teachers actually care and actually work, but they are really expensive, really really expensive.

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I shall refrain from picking apart all of everyones posts.

As for Sex-ed, it is fine where it is. It stops accidental buggery for a start, and I also have so far got no-one preganant.

At my school, over the past 5 years and 2000 people, no-one has suffered a teenage pregnancy. And we have a load of lesser able people in our school.

Generally people aren't held back by those of a lower ability, because grouping is done via ability.

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RS is a valuable lesson. As an atheist, it allows you to explore other peoples views and thus appreciate them. If you think its BS then you've had a poor education as far as that goes.

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People are state certified to drive, but not all of them should be allowed behind a wheel, they might run a kid over and so might a teacher run a kids education over.

The vast majoraity of people learn to drive. Not many of them go on from school to college and then to Uni just to learn how to navigate the M69 at night in a traffic jam.
Teachers recieve help to make sure they know what they are doing. If they don't they get fired.

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I would question the value of this training when they are chained to the national curriculum.

Erm, nope. They are not 'chained' to the NC, it just dictates what is to be taught, not how to. It also allows room for embellishment. We get alot of A-Level stuff thrown in with ou work and the vast majoraity of teachers exceed what they are told they must teach.

As for the drugs issue, I have friends who do weed, I have been with them whilst they have being doing, and I have no desire to do so myself. The person knows its wrong, but is only doing it 'to see what its like'. If he doesnt stop soon, he knows we will make him stop.

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hated my peers whilst I was at school, all they did was attack and bully me, I got into more than one fight without taking any hostile action other than to defend myself, (after all these years I still dont know where that last punch came from) and I don't fancy repeating the experience but I know I would fight if attacked and probably make a better job of it than last time.

If you look in my profile my hobby is mountain biking. I think I could defend myself pretty well. I have only got in one fight, with are neighbors kid. And I won :).

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But, you see...teachers as TOLD what to teach. In other words they have to teach one side. Like with evolution, they're ONLY allowed to teach evolution in schools (that, by the way, is why most people believe evolution, they've never heard the other side). While if you are homeschooled, you can learn the side of evolution, and the side of creation, two scientific view-points, and make a descision for yourself which one you believe...

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Not in any school i have been to. In classes where we have discussions, there are always differing viewpoints and opinions. And teachers are not alwayst told what to teach, they are given a cirriculum and a goal, but everything else is up to their disgression, and teachers dont teach for the money.

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hmm...I could be wrong. But I have heard that teachers have been fired for teaching the Theory of Creation instead of evolution.

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I must disagree, teachers must try to teach things from as many perspectives as possible, we where tought for example about the evolution proces (darwin) but also about how the bible sais live on earth began. We also discussed the koran and other religions like budism. Who told youo that schools are only allowed to talk about the evolution proces (by darwin) and not what the bibles says?

If you have been to a public school and tell this from experience then i can assure you that you went to a school that sucked monkey balls. Schools encourgae to make your own conclusion (although they won't let say that 2+2=7 :D).

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lol, ok, I was saying what I read in some magazine somewhere. It mostly likely doesn't apply to all schools. But I still don't think teachers are allowed to teach creation at all.

(and btw, creation is not just based alll on the bible, it does have scientific evidence.)

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But I still don't think teachers are allowed to teach creation at all.

where did you read/heared that? I'm 100% sure that this does not applies to europe and pretty sure too that it also doesn't applies to american schools.

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But I still don't think teachers are allowed to teach creation at all.

(and btw, creation is not just based alll on the bible, it does have scientific evidence.)

Maybe not in (certain states of) the US, but in Europe...

+ Links, sources plz

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Creation does not have any scientific evidence. But maybe that's a good topic for another thread.

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Sporky is talking about in the US. I dont think that it would happen in the US, but I am not sure of any classes that would talk about the beginnning of the world. I know that in Bio i learned about Darwin, but Darwin's theories are all pretty much accepted in the world.

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Creation does not have any scientific evidence. But maybe that's a good topic for another thread.

Shhh, that's why I asked for his sources :).

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You only learn there's no evidence in schools, so I don't blame you. You shoulda been here for the religion thread. :) it was fun. Evolution is actually the one with no real evidence, and the "evidence" it has is all flawed.

One of my favorite creationists sites is www.irc.org see for yourself.

And that's another thing I'm talking about, in school you're told "there is no evidence of creation" and "evolution should be accepted as a simple fact." That's wrong.

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Every School I have been to, neither creationism nor evolution were taught as what was right. They were both mentioned, but you ahve to admit, Darwin is right about the Finches and all of that.

BTW: Should we create a thread about creationism?

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Ok, I haven't been to all schools and should probably just shudup. :D :p

maybe, it would probably be closed right away. but yeah, I'd love one. However, don't start one yet, I'll be away this weekend.

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at my school, we haven't really talked about either. if we get in a debate and it starts going towards the creationism vs. evolution the teacher usually stops us. my bio teacher always says "god or evolution ..." no teacher has ever said that there's no evidence of creationism to me.

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I go to a Catholic High School and almost every teacher, especially the religion teachers told us that we were all created by God, and the evolution theory is misguided and that the Bible is the basis for evolution. A lot of the teachers have said this. I'm an atheist, there is no 'God' and we all evolved from tiny ocean-dwelling single-cell organisms. Besides, we're all just people in a sea of other people on one planet in a universe of other planets and galaxies. Anyways, today in history class I learned how the places known as 'hell' and 'purgatory' were all made up and never mentioned at all by Jesus or in the Old Testaments. 'Hell' was created by Paul a century after Jesus' death and 'Purgatory' was invented by the Papacy for people to buy indulgences so they did not go to hell.

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mmk, i see. Every school is different I guess..:nodding:

Actually hell is mentioned in the Bible before Paul. Jesus mentions it in some of his parables, and it says "and he decended into hell" somewhere in the gosples (not quite sure where). But I didn't know where Purgatory came from as it's never mentioned in the Bible.

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As for Sex-ed, it is fine where it is. It stops accidental buggery for a start

BUGGERY: Dictionary Entry and Meaning

Pronunciation: 'buguree

Definition: [n] anal intercourse committed by a man with a man or woman

You are unlikely to do it, if you dont know about it in the first place.

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RS is a valuable lesson. As an atheist, it allows you to explore other peoples views and thus appreciate them. If you think its BS then you've had a poor education as far as that goes.

I think you misunderstood, I was saying that the statement that home educated children didnt get exposed to an assortment of ideas was bullshit.

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The vast majoraity of people learn to drive. Not many of them go on from school to college and then to Uni just to learn how to navigate the M69 at night in a traffic jam.

They still have to pass a test and you have to pass a test to drive. It should be noted that teachers arent necessarily qualified in what they teach just in teaching in general.

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it just dictates what is to be taught

Hmm?

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As for the drugs issue, I have friends who do weed, I have been with them whilst they have being doing, and I have no desire to do so myself. The person knows its wrong, but is only doing it 'to see what its like'. If he doesnt stop soon, he knows we will make him stop.

How would you "make" him stop? You cant completely control another persons life 24,7.
Did they go ahead with citizenship lessons in the end? I had heard about them a while ago.

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you mean like civics and career studies? what a waste of time.

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This stuff

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/342353.stm

I dont know if they actually went ahead and did it, or if it got torpedoed just before it could get off the deck.

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:deal: Stay on topic people. Anyway here is a list of the Pros and Cons in my homeschooling. These are cold hard facts. You can cross-examin them all you want it wont change the facts.

Pros:)

I get out of school 1-2 years early.
I probly have a better education.
I don't get bullied.
I don't get exposed as much to drugs, violance, etc...

Cons:(

I work through the summer.
I have less friends and am less social.
I have 2 Christian parents that are over protective.
Im lonly.

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Of course evolution is all hog wash.

That is exactly why you can look back in time using the Hubble, and you can see the big bang.

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you can look back in time using the Hubble

:confused: :uhm: :clueless: :vikki::withstupid:

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:confused: :uhm: :clueless: :vikki::withstupid:

Ohh so you think I am an idiot?

Here is a little break down on the situation here:

Using the Hubble Telescope, you can see out into vast reaches of space, and watch galaxies/solar systems/etc being formed, but here is the catch:

It takes time for light to travel from that far in space, so you are looking at events that happened billions of years ago.

Please, refrain from calling me an idiot simply because you don't understand.

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errr... this thread was about what again?
yup, so you know what you have to do now, don't you?
good!

So don't talk about evolution etc., make some new thread about it if you need to discuss darwins evolution theory versus what the bible sais. (although it might very well turn into an other religion thread)

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Pros:)

I get out of school 1-2 years early.
I probly have a better education.
I don't get bullied.
I don't get exposed as much to drugs, violance, etc...

Cons:(

I work through the summer.
I have less friends and am less social.
I have 2 Christian parents that are over protective.
Im lonly.

looks to me like the cons outweigh the pros, according to you...

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Evolution is actually the one with no real evidence, and the "evidence" it has is all flawed.

Actually, there is a lot of evidence. I'll be happy to tell you in a week or so, when I have my biology exam :). Oh, and we discussed creationism, Darwinism, neo-darwinism, lamark,...

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Actually hell is mentioned in the Bible before Paul. Jesus mentions it in some of his parables, and it says "and he decended into hell" somewhere in the gosples (not quite sure where). But I didn't know where Purgatory came from as it's never mentioned in the Bible.

Purgatory is mentioned by, among others, Dante (13th century), 'La Divina Commedia', and probably before him.

Oh, and Wisebobo is right.

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god damnit, Im going with the admiral on this one, lay off the evolution. Make a new thread for that one. And I also agree that the cons outway the pros. social development is far more important than actual education. if u want both u should find sum kickass school, probably not publik. if u need publik u can go w/ a "gifted" program (depending where u r) or a program like the IB program. that is all over the damnn planet.

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social development is far more important than actual education.

Would you care to explain that one?
You could be the nicest person in the world and end up a bin man if you don't have any qualifications.

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Although I would argue you don't have to be a nice person to get on with people

Re: Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)

the phrase was worded poorly. Wat is ment is that one can lern throughout life wat 1 can lern in skool, but 1 cant lern society l8ter in life cuz no1 will tlk 2 u cuz u suk and don't no the rules.

Re: Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)

Might I ask where you learned to write like that? :rolleyes:

Re: Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)

a certain female friend of mine taught me.