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Old January 26th, 2004   #51
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I agree with you Anlushac11!
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Old January 26th, 2004   #52
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Nice response Anlushac11! You have alot of common sense

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Old January 26th, 2004   #53
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I would call it Mr. Uninformed naive guy.

Dear Mr. Giovanni, I find your post distasteful and your opinion simplistic.

While you support the illegal crossing of these immigrants let me ask you a question.

Do you have a job?
Go you have a nice house or place to call home?
Are you a student or are you in the working world?

I no longer have a job. I was laid off from work In November of 2002. I can no longer get unemployement. I cant get federal help of any kind.

I currently still have my house only because of the help from my parents and friends as I have struggled to get any income I can.

I have to worry week to week about where to get money for groceries, bills, and gas for car to go job hunting. My only outlet is my internet access since I dont have the money to go to movies, clubs, resturants, etc.

I work my ass off to make ends meet and now the goerment wants to treat teh illegal immigrants better than i can get and im a US citizen! why should I not curry at least equal favor?

And yet with the State I live in recently recording the highest unemployement, highest bankruptcies, and highest bank foreclosures on mortgages in the nation you think I am being selfish to say the illegals should not be allowed in?

If i dont watch after my own intersts who will? certainly not GW Bush, this ploy is only to gainfavor come election time.

Yet you suggest that it is due to our selfish desires to retain what we have and that we would prefer the god of riches personified over human beings.

You dont seem to comprehend that most of us on here are not suggesting that people suffer unduly, merely that they follow the systems and procedures like everyone else, not be rewarded for doing what they knew was wrong. They know they are supposed to get a green card.

In my city whether they are a illegal immigrant or not any one in need of emergency health care will not be denied. They will bill you of course and the care will probably not be the best but they wont push you out onto the street to die.

and Mr. Giovanni, if you were to read agge's post before criticizing you would see that he and the others are not saying no to LEGAL immirants who have bothered to follow the directions the system, only those who seek to profit from ill gotten means. The people who follow the system and work for a living should be rewarded, not those that cheat and circumvent the system. AegenemmnoN

And most immigrants are not loathed and detested, most work hard and abide by the laws.


Your intentions are well meant but are misplaced.
First and most importantly, where in my post did I indicate that I acknowledge illegal immigration? I am curious; for I am quite certain that I did not. One should think that if one had made no statement as such, people would refrain from jumping to conclusions. Alas…

Then it should not surprise you that I am sternly against illegal immigration. It benefits no one! Not the illegal immigrants and not the working taxpayers. It only leads to human misery.


Secondly,
As for my reply to Mister AegenemmnoN, it is obvious to me that you interpreted it as if I, eh, derived my conclusion from his previous statement, as if he was against immigrants of any kind. Now, as is quite obvious, my post did not concern legal immigrants, it was in reference to his statement concerning illegal immigrants and their rights.


Nevertheless,
When I read your post I could feel your frustration, and I am sorry to hear of your situation. Having experienced financial troubles oneself, I know how agonizing the whole ordeal can be. Are you a family man? Then the pressure and frustration must be unbearable.

Having said that, best of luck on the job-hunting issue. The world can be, pardon me, bloody awful at times, but at the very least you seem like an intelligent chap.


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If I'm not mistaken, it would be that that made us all "jump to conclusions" that you were talking about illegals.

Still, even though there's a mild spin on your argument, I'm glad you at least realize illegals don't help the situation any.
It was a sarcastic remark directed at Mister NiteStrykers fondness for creative name-calling. For reference see his post (#30).

At no point in this thread have I expressed my approval of illegal immigration, life on Mars, etcetera.

However, if you are liable to derive such a conclusion (that I favour illegal immigration) from said remark, I am not at all surprised at the somewhat hyperbolic proclamation you presented in post #50 in this thread.

Nevertheless, I am glad that you realize that I disfavour illegal immigration.


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I disagree and I stand firmly by my statement. Thus this discussion could go on, but this is not the thread for it. Would you not agree?
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i would. *starts Quest to find the Holy Topic. finds it. presents it to members*
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