Lost all respect for this man now...

[zizzy]

Well, I am slightly in favor of the bill because:

a) We get the Social Security tax that the illegal immigrants will not recieve

b) If we can't get Americans to do the job now, might as well give them to Illegals

c) It identifies where the Illegal immigrants are, which we can find them and ship the back

Now by requiring giving illegal immigrants minimum wage, employers can no longer cut coners by hiring illegal immigrants for 2 dollars an hour to save money. Now they have to pay minimum wage, and they might as well get Americans to do it if it is going to cost the same, and they won't get in trouble, whereas if the had illegals working for them, they might.

[Admiral Donutz]

Originally Posted by Apprentice

The beginning of the end. Look at the Netherlands and its immigration policy . . .

Whats wrong with the Dutch immigration policy?
I live there and I see no problems with the policy, I not agree on ALL points of the policy, but I support most of them.
The big thing thats wrong with it is to just say to the immigrants (when they are here for 4 years waiting for an answer) sorry you have to go, there is the exit, go! We need to help them to get back to their country, or else they will just sleep on the streets and dissapear into the shadows and make trouble.

We need some illegal immigrant, so they can do the dirty jobs the citizens refuse to do. I would say: Only give shelter to immigrants if they flet there country because of a war or a disaster or something, but send them back ASAP.
We need no immigrants that come here to empty our pockets, if you here to work, urn money, pay taxes, buy a hous, get children etc etc. thats ok with me. But just dont empy our pockets!

[AegenemmnoN]

Originally Posted by Giovanni Fascisti

?we should stop giving immigrants rights...?
This is without doubt the most offensive thing I have read so far. How on Earth can you justify depriving human beings of any rights for the simple reason of being an illegal immigrant?

they shouldnt have any rights to begin with. they are getting citizen rights for being here illegally.. now tell me, should they have those rights? no. not at all.

they are here illegally, and that means we woul be giving rights to criminals, which is unjust.

i live in one of the most highly illegal imigrant populated states. and let me tell you, they drive cars, they get money from the goverment, and they NEVER pay taxes, yet they milk the system for all its worth.

now tell me, do they deserve the same rights as a citizen? no.


and in colorado, they live in rich neighborhoods because they have so many kids, and lots of kids = more money from the goverment. they live in neighborhoods where no person making less than $50,000+ a year can live there, yet they live there.

it isnt always a nice thing to see when you are looking for a house, and the area you want to live in has illegal aliens, and they can live there, but you cant, because you cant afford it, but they can because they are taking the goverment for all its worth.

-Aeg

[Darkness Knight 15]

US Territory that shall remain nameless,

Porta Rico?



Bush is a freak. To bash him, go to the Bash Bush thread in the Melee section.

get children etc etc

You make it sound like you just go to the store on 5th and Dowling and buy a couple of kids. Sheesh. Lol.

[CorT]

I like what n0e said.

We need to try and filter out the illigal imigrants who are here and working thier asses off, and let them stay and get them the green card and citizenship they desserver for thier work. And we need to kick the rest the hell back to wherever they came from or have them work thier asses off just like the other guys.

The only problem w/that idea is how hard and probably costly it would be to do...

One thing we really need to do is tighten up the US-Mexico border....

ya tighting the border would help alot

[SuperDumbGuy]

wow.. theres some LONG posts here.. no time to read them all thoiugh

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Giovanni Fascisti

How very tasteless,

This thread has become a proverbial minefield of slightly racist remarks. Alas, I recognize the rhetoric from the immigration debate in my home country. Regrettably it is rhetoric used by the right wing parties.


“we should stop giving immigrants rights...”
This is without doubt the most offensive thing I have read so far. How on Earth can you justify depriving human beings of any rights for the simple reason of being an illegal immigrant?


Regards,
Giovanni

Ah, i was waiting for a statement of this nature, some illegal loving guy. First of all sir, where do you live?

Mainly right wing conservitives are agianst this because Right Wing Conservitives have the right ideas. Illegals are just seen as more votes for left - wing democrats. Republicans are doing more to look out for others in some instances. Democrats look out for themselves. They say crap to please illegals (Like frmr Gov Gray Davis) to buy votes.

I live in San Diego, CA, USA. I live a mere 10 miles from the border. I have no problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration.

These people were going to get free drivers licenses. They dont deserve it.
They get free healthcare. They dont deserve it.
They are amoung 14 percent of arrested people every year.

It pisses me off, people come here illegally, they earn money, and dont pay taxes. I bust my a$$ off to get minimum wage and most of it goes to taxes.

These people like us so much? Do what Arnold did. He waited god-damn 15 years to get citizenship.

[CorT]

to answer your question, nite, I think he lives in some European country...I think.....

[SuperDumbGuy]

aw man.. i agree.. :

makes me