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FFA is dead.
OS |Penumbra-Omen| SCM
December 20th, 2006 12:33 PM
I want to know something.
Why did most of every1 that plays 1.01 mess up 1.01?
Why is it only dueling in FFA servers?
and not Free for All.
meaning; all out war, every man for himself, kill anything in sight.

why cant anyone find any FFA servers with no "no laming" rule?.

look everyone.
FFA is Free For All.
not dueling.
DUELING SERVERS ARE THERE FOR DUELING
FFA IS SUPPOSE TO BE THERE FOR ALL OUT KILLING.
NOT PUSSIES THAT THINK THAT LAMING IS A RULE AND ENFORCE IT.
and kick ppl for actually doing what FFA is meant for.

Noobs, even though there noobs actually know better then alot of you ppl.
They actually know what FFA is.
And Play FFA the way its meant to be played.

Look. If you want to talk for a long period of time.
go into Spectator Mode.

Its Ashame.
the only place that actually plays FFA the right way (Saber Only FFA or All Weapon FFA) is all the clans in 1.00
and there is barely 50 servers in there.

And also.
That stupid JA+
It ruined FFA to no end.
It pretty much destroyed Jedi Academy.
Destroyed the purpose of playing FFA.
Nubish Slider was not thinking straight when he made that stupid mod..
He made JA+ added things to JA that is not needed.
Messed up Force Powers. and created Force Whores that use Force Grip and only force grip and force pull.
Then He messed up Saber Only. And created The People that think that FFA means Dueling.

=]
Now. Im sorry for my madness.
But I think this should be shown into the light if it hasnt already.

And I do think this will make a good conversation. So please.
Start Replying ^_^







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Re: FFA is dead.
Averus_Retruthan
December 20th, 2006 01:59 PM
Full iron fist agreement with you there, my lad. =_o While dueling helps balance it out, it's more interesting if you're in an environment where you can't expect what's going on. However, most of these kids nowadays like a "fair fight" when in reality all is fair in love and war.

Worst thing about it is that it's not just in FFA servers, it happens in RP Servers too. RP does not equal dueling all day. All this sparring nonsense needs to seriously go away. THINK UP A STORY LINE YOU IMBECILES.

Anyway, yes....I shall help arrange dear FFA's funeral -_-
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Re: FFA is dead.
Anson992
December 20th, 2006 02:50 PM
Bolderdash!

FFA isn't dead, in most servers it is, but I've found a choice few that I can still get into and noob some noobs all noobing day! Yeah, JA+ did kill some of JAs best aspects (though it added some good ones too) and I grow sick of it. But every now and then I join a server with a few (maybe 4) guys/girls with an equal, greater, or slightly less skill level than mine, and we rough it out. It's fun in small map, just to get killed from behind unexpectingly.

But what you need to do to asure you can play good FFA is to get some of your friends and have a LAN party, or just have one of them start an internet server with a password and your good to go. Its fun to kill friends!
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Re: FFA is dead.
Mikouen
December 20th, 2006 04:41 PM
Oh, sure, blame the patch, not the idiots.

The real problem is Raven Software.

After JK2, there was a lot of mud thrown over the 'Duel' mode, which most people preferred. Sure, it was saber duelin', but you had to wait from 5 to 40 minutes just to get a minutes worth of gameplay. To quote the community:

Quote:
Originally Posted by The JK2 Community
Many suggestions were put to Raven about how the duel mode could be improved. One of those was gameplay similar to the FFA mode, aside from enforcing the "saber challenge" rule. This would have replaced the old Duel mode, rather than whoring FFA. Another suggestion was to have several arenas in one map, with two players max in each area - when a player respawned, they get dropped into a duel arena where there's a free slot. It's like Duel mode, only without the delays.

Both of these are infinitely possible, most notably the second (as evidenced by Unreal Tournament's "Rocket Arena" mode).

Did Raven listen? No.

So now, we've got the community making do with what they've got.

FFA could be considered dead, yes, because compared to other games out there, it's utterly crap. However, in the gametype balance, it's really not dead at all - it's still played, it's just impossible to tell which server is "Real FFA" and which is "Duel FFA" - and god forbid anyone around this community has the patience to check all the servers rather than judging them all off the first one they see, then coming on a forum and trying to absolve the community by blaming the patch.

If anyone is to blame, it's idiots - on all sides of the argument.

You think things are any better on v1.00? No, that's not it at all. If everyone, these "True FFAers" you speak of, were to move to v1.01, they wouldn't have to change their ways - they'd merely have an extra digit on their version number.

That's where people tend to get stupid, y'see - people see v1.01 and think "We don't wanna be like that!" and so they stick with v1.00. However - and this is the important point for all the v1.00'ers out there - patching the game does NOT force you to change your play style!

Only idiots move with the majority. If v1.00'ers aren't idiots, as they so claim, then they can safely move to v1.01 without losing their way of (gaming) life. Makes sense, doesn't it?

But, hey, if you want to stick with an outdated, buggy, insecure and overall inferior version of the game software, be my guest.

Just remember, when you complain about the multitudes of problems you get, that it's your fault.
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Re: FFA is dead.
Anson992
December 20th, 2006 04:54 PM
Lol, wow Kouen, not only did you make an entrance, make me laugh with that pic, and bring your point across securely and in an orderly fashion. But you also....... well yeah, thats pretty much what you did.

And I'm inclined to agree, seeing as I didn't really notice too much of a difference when I patched up, so I had no idea what he was talking about. But people do duel alot in FFA for that reason. And I actually think you said something along those lines a short while ago in another thread.
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Re: FFA is dead.
-Samurai-
December 20th, 2006 05:43 PM
Im going to beat the_twig to it and suggest the M7 server. Its "True FFA" run on JKA Base only. No mods at all. Its pretty fantastic. Just run and gun, no "no laming" rule. Move and shoot, mow and go..etc etc.

207.158.55.116:29072

Theres the IP. Its on the 1.01 patch.

I just keep editing my post. The amount of times you used the "word" "noob" in your post makes me sick. Its people like you that ruin good fun by trying to insult people with a made up word. And if you take offense to being called a "noob", then you need some outside time. Get off your computer and interact with people in real life. Remember, not everyone wants to play their best all the time. This is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

Also, a solution to the no "true" FFA servers is simple: You want one? Make one. No offense, but if you're not willing to help solve your problem somehow, dont complain about it. Making a post on a forum isnt going to cause a sudden boom in FFA servers. If you make one, all the people that want "True" FFA will be there. Then you will be loved..
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Re: FFA is dead.
(SoC) Auronus (GM)
December 20th, 2006 07:28 PM
I concur
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Re: FFA is dead.
The_Twig
December 20th, 2006 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ShotDoctor View Post
Im going to beat the_twig to it and suggest the M7 server. Its "True FFA" run on JKA Base only. No mods at all. Its pretty fantastic. Just run and gun, no "no laming" rule. Move and shoot, mow and go..etc etc.

207.158.55.116:29072
Hahaha You definitely knew I was going to post in here.

Anyway my server is still down, but it should be brought back up soon then all of you are welcomed for some real FFA action.
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Re: FFA is dead.
Mikouen
December 21st, 2006 04:32 AM
People, people... Relax. You're not being dragged before the Senate Oversight Committee or anything...

No need to turn a valid debate into an argument.

/me cleans posts up.

(Argh, god damn it, will someone fix the damned /me code?
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Re: FFA is dead.
Mad Cat MkII
December 21st, 2006 07:12 AM
and this is why i left Ja+ a while ago and whitched to OJP yes there ra only a few servers
(but if i have my way that will all change )
trust me over at the officil server Meatgrinder its a true FFA theres only one rule per say about typeing and that is type faster cus were not going to not rocket you or cut u up just because u have a text bubble up















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