FFA is dead.
 

I want to know something.
Why did most of every1 that plays 1.01 mess up 1.01?
Why is it only dueling in FFA servers?
and not Free for All.
meaning; all out war, every man for himself, kill anything in sight.

why cant anyone find any FFA servers with no "no laming" rule?.

look everyone.
FFA is Free For All.
not dueling.
DUELING SERVERS ARE THERE FOR DUELING
FFA IS SUPPOSE TO BE THERE FOR ALL OUT KILLING.
NOT PUSSIES THAT THINK THAT LAMING IS A RULE AND ENFORCE IT.
and kick ppl for actually doing what FFA is meant for.

Noobs, even though there noobs actually know better then alot of you ppl.
They actually know what FFA is.
And Play FFA the way its meant to be played.

Look. If you want to talk for a long period of time.
go into Spectator Mode.

Its Ashame.
the only place that actually plays FFA the right way (Saber Only FFA or All Weapon FFA) is all the clans in 1.00
and there is barely 50 servers in there.

And also.
That stupid JA+
It ruined FFA to no end.
It pretty much destroyed Jedi Academy.
Destroyed the purpose of playing FFA.
Nubish Slider was not thinking straight when he made that stupid mod..
He made JA+ added things to JA that is not needed.
Messed up Force Powers. and created Force Whores that use Force Grip and only force grip and force pull.
Then He messed up Saber Only. And created The People that think that FFA means Dueling.

=]
Now. Im sorry for my madness.
But I think this should be shown into the light if it hasnt already.

And I do think this will make a good conversation. So please.
Start Replying ^_^







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Full iron fist agreement with you there, my lad. =_o While dueling helps balance it out, it's more interesting if you're in an environment where you can't expect what's going on. However, most of these kids nowadays like a "fair fight" when in reality all is fair in love and war.

Worst thing about it is that it's not just in FFA servers, it happens in RP Servers too. RP does not equal dueling all day. All this sparring nonsense needs to seriously go away. THINK UP A STORY LINE YOU IMBECILES.

Anyway, yes....I shall help arrange dear FFA's funeral -_-

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Bolderdash!

FFA isn't dead, in most servers it is, but I've found a choice few that I can still get into and noob some noobs all noobing day! Yeah, JA+ did kill some of JAs best aspects (though it added some good ones too) and I grow sick of it. But every now and then I join a server with a few (maybe 4) guys/girls with an equal, greater, or slightly less skill level than mine, and we rough it out. It's fun in small map, just to get killed from behind unexpectingly.

But what you need to do to asure you can play good FFA is to get some of your friends and have a LAN party, or just have one of them start an internet server with a password and your good to go. Its fun to kill friends! :)

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Oh, sure, blame the patch, not the idiots.

The real problem is Raven Software.

After JK2, there was a lot of mud thrown over the 'Duel' mode, which most people preferred. Sure, it was saber duelin', but you had to wait from 5 to 40 minutes just to get a minutes worth of gameplay. To quote the community:

Many suggestions were put to Raven about how the duel mode could be improved. One of those was gameplay similar to the FFA mode, aside from enforcing the "saber challenge" rule. This would have replaced the old Duel mode, rather than whoring FFA. Another suggestion was to have several arenas in one map, with two players max in each area - when a player respawned, they get dropped into a duel arena where there's a free slot. It's like Duel mode, only without the delays.

Both of these are infinitely possible, most notably the second (as evidenced by Unreal Tournament's "Rocket Arena" mode).

Did Raven listen? No.

So now, we've got the community making do with what they've got.

FFA could be considered dead, yes, because compared to other games out there, it's utterly crap. However, in the gametype balance, it's really not dead at all - it's still played, it's just impossible to tell which server is "Real FFA" and which is "Duel FFA" - and god forbid anyone around this community has the patience to check all the servers rather than judging them all off the first one they see, then coming on a forum and trying to absolve the community by blaming the patch. :rolleyes:

If anyone is to blame, it's idiots - on all sides of the argument.

You think things are any better on v1.00? No, that's not it at all. If everyone, these "True FFAers" you speak of, were to move to v1.01, they wouldn't have to change their ways - they'd merely have an extra digit on their version number.

That's where people tend to get stupid, y'see - people see v1.01 and think "We don't wanna be like that!" and so they stick with v1.00. However - and this is the important point for all the v1.00'ers out there - patching the game does NOT force you to change your play style!

Only idiots move with the majority. If v1.00'ers aren't idiots, as they so claim, then they can safely move to v1.01 without losing their way of (gaming) life. Makes sense, doesn't it?

But, hey, if you want to stick with an outdated, buggy, insecure and overall inferior version of the game software, be my guest.

Just remember, when you complain about the multitudes of problems you get, that it's your fault.

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Lol, wow Kouen, not only did you make an entrance, make me laugh with that pic, and bring your point across securely and in an orderly fashion. But you also....... well yeah, thats pretty much what you did.

And I'm inclined to agree, seeing as I didn't really notice too much of a difference when I patched up, so I had no idea what he was talking about. But people do duel alot in FFA for that reason. And I actually think you said something along those lines a short while ago in another thread.

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Im going to beat the_twig to it and suggest the M7 server. Its "True FFA" run on JKA Base only. No mods at all. Its pretty fantastic. Just run and gun, no "no laming" rule. Move and shoot, mow and go..etc etc.

207.158.55.116:29072

Theres the IP. Its on the 1.01 patch.

I just keep editing my post. The amount of times you used the "word" "noob" in your post makes me sick. Its people like you that ruin good fun by trying to insult people with a made up word. And if you take offense to being called a "noob", then you need some outside time. Get off your computer and interact with people in real life. Remember, not everyone wants to play their best all the time. This is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

Also, a solution to the no "true" FFA servers is simple: You want one? Make one. No offense, but if you're not willing to help solve your problem somehow, dont complain about it. Making a post on a forum isnt going to cause a sudden boom in FFA servers. If you make one, all the people that want "True" FFA will be there. Then you will be loved..

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I concur :)

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Hahaha You definitely knew I was going to post in here.

Anyway my server is still down, but it should be brought back up soon then all of you are welcomed for some real FFA action.

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People, people... Relax. You're not being dragged before the Senate Oversight Committee or anything...

No need to turn a valid debate into an argument.

/me cleans posts up.

(Argh, god damn it, will someone fix the damned /me code? :(

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and this is why i left Ja+ a while ago and whitched to OJP yes there ra only a few servers
(but if i have my way that will all change :devil: )
trust me over at the officil server Meatgrinder its a true FFA theres only one rule per say about typeing and that is type faster cus were not going to not rocket you or cut u up just because u have a text bubble up















*subliminal message* Play OJP *subliminal message*

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What's the IP for that server? Maybe I'll come by

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hers the meatgrinder server IP
72.5.248.212:29070

its one of the few OJP servers sadily well if all gose to plan there will be more in the future

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I was on the server earlier today. Where are all the weapons, force powers, etc? Also any idea why I crashed every time something walked up to me?

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well latley OJP's server has been on enhanced for thero testing so do u have the latest of enhanced its v.R

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Thanks that's probably the problem. I might check into it later.

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I admit Twig and his clan own lol. They r the true ffaers I think in 1.01
And now that I see what you said about RavenSoft. It makes alot of sense.

But when u went on to say about v1.00 changing their ways and stuff...





Unfortunately it does. There is so many servers in 1.01 FFA now, that dont do crap except talk and duel. And abide by the no laming rule, that it would be impossible to not change and not stereotype it. Unless you want to spend time by yourself in a server your paying for and not get one person to come in and actually play FFA. and if they did come in, You'd probobly be flamed by the person saying. "YOU LAMED ME!! OMG!"
See so many people in 1.01 that play FFA alot, now have been playing the way alot of ppl play in 1.01 FFA. that now its pretty much screwed. A 1.00 player couldnt come in there and start playing the way they want to play, and have fun at the same time. Unless you think getting kicked multiple times is fun lol.
And not to get on all the TFFA teams backs but most of all of the base servers are of TFFA teams. And all they do is TFFA. o_o So then 1.00 players would have to change.

Really dudes, Everything in 1.01 FFA is nothing but almost dead. Probobly the ones keeping it alive would be like Twig and his clan. and maybe some others that do the same as him. But in all my time playing in 1.01 I havent found a clan [except Twigs] that would just actually play FFA.

=]
<3
Love the conversacion. xD

Re: FFA is dead.
 

I'm not even going to quote the rest of that crap, because you're clearly missing something, and that something is "common sense".

Now, I'm going to emphasise here, because otherwise you just won't listen.

If all the FFA'ers from v1.00 moved to v1.01, then you would still be able to play the game the same way you always have. It is an active choice. You can move to v1.01 and choose to play true FFA.

You will never be forced to change the way you play. Never.

And don't pull that stereotyping line. That's just complete crap, and you know it.

Yes. Yes they could.

Know how?

They simply go to a "True FFA" server, rather than a "Duel FFA" server.

You're complaining about the lack of True FFA servers in v1.01, but you fail to realise that if all you v1.00'ers would move across, then there would be more True FFA servers in v1.01.

So, don't start blaming v1.01 players for a problem which is only created because of the v1.00 players being stubborn and short-sighted.


Y'know, by staying on v1.00, you're actually damaging the community. Why is that? Here's the timeline.

• True FFA'er picks up a copy of Jedi Academy at the store, and installs it.
• The game is pre-patched to v1.01 (as all copies released after October 2003 are).
• They see nothing but Duel FFA, because they can't see the True FFA community on v1.00, and even if they could, they wouldn't be able to get to it.

So, what do they do?

That's right. They throw the game aside and play something else.

Think about it. You're actually excluding True FFA players from being able to find a decent True FFA.

For people who want a BIGGER True FFA community, you and your v1.00 buddies are sure doing a pretty good job of ensuring that it doesn't grow.


Seriously, think about it. That's one of the reasons I don't play any more - because I can't get to v1.00 thanks to pre-patching, making it impossible to get a decent game of FFA because you lot are all foolishly refusing to upgrade.

If everyone would just patch (and there isn't a single valid reason not to), then as well as a bigger overall community, we'd actually have a True FFA community which was openly accessible for everyone.

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Well, that sure was something Kouen, what I don't know, I'll tell you when I find out ;)

But, there is that possibility, but anyone could just get on this site, get some donations, and start a True FFA server with all the money they got. Or you could start a server and invite your friends, which is what I do because its a better chance of fun with them....

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Thanks

Were you ever on the server? What would your name be?

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People evolve with the things that are given to them. They upgrade how they play. Not everybody that plays Jedi Academy is a mindless, FFA-addicted blabbermouth like yourself.

The thing is, if you don't like the way certain people play on a server, then stay off of the server. It's so simple. Also, I'd like you to reconsider your message about JA+. Slider took a game and added on so much from what was missing. Kouen is right-- Raven didn't listen to the community and added nothing to benefit from (save for two new lightsaber styles that all the noobcakes would spam to no end).

Hahahaha. You're funny.

Not.

Duel mode is an absolute waste of time. You don't do anything but remain in spectator mode, stuck watching two buffoons drawl out what should be a short duel into an unnecessarily large one. The great thing about JA+, is the fact that there can be multiple duels going around at once. I'm not sure what Raven was smoking when they conceived the idea of 'one duel at a time' for FFA mode, but Slider sure fixed it.

We're not pussies for embracing a rule that you spill your guts out over. In fact, I'd say you're acting less mature than we are with your whining about how laming shouldn't be a rule. It's a widely regarded and embraced form of practice now, so just suck it up and deal with it.

Actually, we're better than they are because we follow the rules as they're set out. It's really a nuisance when some idiot name "Padawan" screaming "ALALALALALALALALA" Force speeds through the map, sabering anyone in his path.

Spectator is lame. I'm sure I've already established that.

I'm done now.

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Yes, and Slider also screwed up the entire combat system at the same time, removing every single skill element from the game.

People say JA+ gives you more control over your server's settings, but that's just utter bollocks. All of the new server settings added by JA+ are useless, and the useful ones aren't JA+ features at all - they're baseJKA commands.

The few good things JA+ has, can easily be found in other mods such as JAE or ClanMod, and those mods don't cock up the game mechanics beyond all repair.

JA+ is nothing more than a nerfbat, and if it's on any server, it's a damn good sign that the server is run by whiny little brats who want to "own" people without needing any skill. JA+ is, essentially, a big sign saying "Avoid At All Costs!".

Sadly, the idiotic "I want to be good at the game without having to develop any skills!" mentality is prevalent in this community, and that's the number one reason why very few JKA players can be considered gamers - and also why most gamers leave this community, placing the balance well and truly in favour of immature 'tards who just want a big score to increase the size of their 'e-penis'.

I'm sure you've noticed that other games have stronger, friendlier communities where there's more of an emphasis on playing the game, having fun, and developing personal skills rather than winning, right?

Yeah. That's because those games have a balanced combat system which rewards skill and leaves exploiting players down in the dust. The one thing Jedi Academy is lacking, because of the majority's choice of mod. Everyone chose the nerfbat instead of mods which keep the combat system intact, and as a result, this game suffers - big time.

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I more than agree with Kouen's post. JA+ did nothing but flaw JKA further than what it already was.

Yeah sure the community did evolve I can agree with you that much. It evolved to be a bunch of watered down fools who lack any remote idea of what FFA really should be. I can see if there was a balanced number of FFA 'duel' servers and FFA servers, but frankly there is not. Finding an actual FFA server is highly unlikely. These common servers ruin the fun for the actual FFAers.

Either way JA+ and this game's community is what overall destroys JKA for people such as myself, the topic creator and who ever else rather play this game than sit in a server talking, sabering or RPing. The community worship a mod that is flawed in many ways, but do they see this? Nope they rather have the ridiculous emotes, the tools of the newb (grapple, jet pack) and other useless things JA+ has to offer.

As for the laming rule, this is all I have to say about that rule, this game is a shooter, it is meant to be played out as one. A "Honor" code does nothing but limit this game even further.

Like I said, if there was actual balance in servers, or atleast a few other FFA servers being easy to find, this wouldn't be a problem. Instead you have roughly 95% of the 'FFA' servers around being sabers only duel FFA. Overall the game started out botched and remains to be that way.

What we do need are these supposed 1.00 FFAers going to 1.01 to expand this game to more of a FFA.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

Just forget FFA because it is dead. Go to a different mod where people don't talk all day. For example, MovieBattles 2. No one, and I mean NO ONE justs sits and talks. Cool new guns and levels. But meh, that's my opinion.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

I tried MovieBattles, but couldn't exactly get into it. Could be because my computer doesn't allow me to play it at a good enough frame rate

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o.O well why dont you just let them co-exist on a server...........thats pretty much what we do on mine. lol

if people want to FFA we tell them to go somewhere were there arent people dueling and they are fine with it.....or we all just FFA if the mood is right. :smokin:

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That would be a good idea if people actually had weapons enabled. So for those who want full force full weapons we can't because the vast majority disable them altogether.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

You know any good Full Force Full Weapon servers?

Re: FFA is dead.
 

To be honest, few JA+ server support FFA, or TFFA's for that matter. I'm a basejka server and most good basejka servers are usually running TFFA modes or FFA's in which you simply frag, and frag.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

I am probably one of the few who like the JA+ mod in ffa when it is not abused, the last ffa guns enable server I enjoyed just went down {courisant Temple Server}. I now play on slider's ctf server since he seems to be about the only one who has a ctf with guns. I have one ffa weapons server left in my favorites,{|ufa| clan's}. Three years ago I had over a couple dozen and many had 30 minute wait times to get on the server. The base JA is ok I mainly like the JA+ for grappling on ffa5 with a sniper rifle, and I do use the flip kick if I run out of ammo, but with default regen and slow grapple speeds these can't be overly abused.

If anyone knows of a good server company that does not require paypal please pm me I may try to get another good ctf or ffa running.

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Haha FFA5 is great. It's too easy with the grapple though.

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I am disappointed the ability to have a saber or weapon cut someones grapple has not been implemented, would have added an interesting twist.:D

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interesting idea but do u know how hard it would be to jump out and hit the string

Re: FFA is dead.
 

In the latest JA+ you can do just that, not sure about sabering, but you can shoot it. It's soooooo funny when someone is hanging over an endless pit, and you shoot their grapple and watch them fall to their doom.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

I have an idea, let's start up our own server. No rules, no "no laming", just pure FFA. On base of course. Someone flames for getting "lamed" kick 'em. Someone comes back and complains about it, ban 'em. People who camplain about getting "lamed", are (in my opinion) "LAME"! I got JK3 in late 2005. So as a result, everyone could own me and I had no skill (well now I realise it was crappy JA+ servers mostly. I'm not too bad on base servers). So I killed people while they were chatting. As a result I got banned from every server I went on for "laming" (first thoughts: thats the retartedest online term I've encountered! It still is to today). So, I went looking for mods (found JA+, just made it worse) and found MB2. Since that actually takes "skill" and you can't mix thier servers up with other FFA servers, (well cause it's not FFA) I had a chance to gain skill. Anyways enough with my whole boring life story.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

My clan doens't run ja+. We only run base and we have ffa almost every nite. We enjoy tffa cuz that is what involves someteamwork and is a good way to improve sabering skills. We do not however use force. Just sabering and jump.
Although jump 2 is ftw anyway. And laming is not something we hate in fact end up fighting for who can kill the dood that started to talk first.

Anyway ja+ imo is the gheyest thing in the world because of everyone holding to no laming like it is inspired messages from w/e diety they believe in.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

Doesn't matter. JA isn't the only amount of servers that are corrupted. You think this is bad? Wait till you see ALL of the servers on JK2.

By the way, if your looking for an equivalent of a real FFA in powerduel form, play Jawascript or Skubascript. You can either choose to 'lame' or 'not to lame' but when you hurt someone in chat you lose 'karma' and lots of people like darkside karma (- karma) because theres a bug with force lightning that makes you freeze for like ten seconds. So yeah theres always
jawascript or skubascript. Oh yeah I forgot to mention it also has a rare aspect - weapon powerduel!

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Yeah, I also liked the Courisant Temple server. Is it going to go back up anytime soon?

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lol its funny seeing everyone complain about the no laming rule and all the people socializing especially since they dont do anything about it o.O. if you dont like how it is then get your own server. anways i like the social aspect of the game.....dont see too many games like it. i also like the no laming rule(:o i feel like the minority)...its kind of annoying getting up to get a snack and then coming back to see my character dead. ive never hada problem with FFAing either as long as people do it away from where the people who are "sitting there talking to eacother".

Re: FFA is dead.
 

well its FFA. Free For All btw incase you didnt know. :rolleyes: its a fighting game. the objective is to kill. if you talking and not paying attention ur gonna get killed. unless of corse your using JA+ and have a magic bubble around you while ur talking. its not the "no killing while talking" part of the rule that bugs me its more the "no killing while some1s saber is down even if they r still force spamming you". what if some people dont know how to make thier own server or dont have a good enough pc? and if you wanna go get a snack go spec. on second thought i sorta like the laming rule. its fun watching people spaz out cuase u killed them while they were chatting or afk :lol: .

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Precisely, that part is just stupid. If I'm taking a lightning bolt from someone, then I don't know about anyone else, but I'd sure as hell class that as a hostile action.

The main problem I see with it is that some people believe FFA just shouldn't exist, and some people think that FFA shouldn't be an "opt-out" scenario. It's idiots on both sides of the debate.

I'm all for allowing FFA, but if someone simply doesn't want to participate in the FFA for whatever reason (taking a short break, for example), then they should have every right to opt-out and then opt back in when they're ready to continue.

The majority of servers would be so much more enjoyable if anything was allowed under the condition that combat was consentual.

This is pretty much the only rule I ever take to heart:
"Something is only out of bounds if the other participent doesn't consent to being a part of the activity." Want to start an FFA? Go ahead, just leave people alone if they don't want to be part of the FFA. Want to sit over in the corner and duel instead of participating in the FFA? Hey, feel free.

Just don't try to shove your way of gaming down everyone else's throat. Y'know?

No one has a good enough PC to run a server. The only good server is a dedicated server, and if it's being run from a home PC, it's just not dedicated. There shouldn't be one single server in this or any other gaming community run from a home-based PC, since they offer a vastly sub-par gaming experience.

Ever wonder why you lag to hell on most clan's servers? Yeah, it's because the morons think their half-assed outdated PC and 8mbps ADSL connection is good enough to run a server. Well, it's not.

That's how you can tell between a dedicated server and one that some idiot kid is running from their computer. Dedicated server = relatively lag-free experience for just 'bout everyone (unless they're, like, at the exact opposite end of the planet). Home server = laggy as hell for anyone who isn't close to the host machine.

Just because a computer is good enough to run the game doesn't mean it's good enough to host a server for it.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

The so-called saber down rule is especially annoying when you're fighting someone and they suddenly deactivate their saber and try to run away, and then whine about laming when you proceed to shoot them in the back.

Used to play on the Couriscant Temple as well, and the Meatgrinder... but they're both down...

Re: FFA is dead.
 

Meatgringer's not down i was on it today you probubly didn't know that it switched to OJP and is running OJP basic right now

Re: FFA is dead.
 

Cool. I never saw it on the server list for the last couple weeks. I used to go there a lot when it was on basic. Thanks for letting me know.

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i have OJP, how come when i go online there are no servers :(

Re: FFA is dead.
 

these days the majority of jka servers are either base or ja+

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were in a bit of a slomp right now but dont wory it will pick up meatgrinder just switched to basic for a while so its still there JRhockery runs his test server every now and then so theres one for enhanced, and im not really sure what happoned to the templa server i think it was haveing some issues with an unstable beta we were testing so it will brobubl switch back to v.R

Re: FFA is dead.
 

I would love to see Coursant Temple back, it actually had steady activity.
I am currently playing ctf to make up for the lack of good ffa and even there have been called a lamer on occasions.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

Back on-topic, I kind of agree. I mean, I've been a basejka player for a few years now, and I support full FFA for sure. However, I do use JA+ in my server simply because it is the mod people use most.
I do prefer basejka by very far, but with some tweaking, my server is acting just like basejka while being JA+. No retarded saber blocks or what-not, just plain FFA all day. Of course, there are always people chatting around.
And to be honest, that's fine. You get bored after awhile if there isn't any conversation going in the server.
Ranting is fun, especially when there's a FFA. But in my book, if you're in a FFA, you can chat all you want, but just don't cry if you get fragged. Friggin' respawn.

I still don't see why this "laming" thing was instated anyways.
If you die, respawn. It takes 3 seconds to jump back to where you were.
I mean, for the love of God, it is ridiculous.
Ridiculous, but also understandable.

Usually, thsi is what you get in the average clan server; there are clan members in the server chilling, talking about whatever. Then suddenly some dude comes in and starts FFAing while everyone's around, not doing anything but chatting. It's fine, in my opinion. But the only problem is that that is what there is in almost all JKA servers (excluding the basejka community).

I guess it's something we msut cope with. All games evolve and JKA has indeed evolved, sadly into something less fun, but more social (as seen in the numerous servers housing conversations of all sorts). I guess it's fine once you get used to it.

But pertaining to the actual JA+ SUCKS thing, I disagree. Sure, Basejka is far better than JA+ but to be completely honest, it's not that bad. As I said above, with some sensed tweaking, JA+ servers are fine.
The only thing I dislike about JA+ servers are the MP settings one. Jesus Christ, I can't take those. THOSE ARE RETARDED. But the SP ones are fine imo.

=P

Regards,
Lucian

Re: FFA is dead.
 

If you sincerely believe JA+ can ever be anything like base, you're sadly mistaken. The actual damage mechanics were changed, so hey, tweak the numbers in the server.cfg file as much as you want - your server is still not worth playing on for any self-respecting gamer due to the fact it has no skill requirement and combat on it is little less than spamming glitch moves. (Note the underlined keyword.)

JA+ does more damage to an already crap game. If more people would stick to mods which maintain the baseJKA game mechanics (albeit with the bugs fixed) - by this, I specifically refer to JAE and the latest version of ClanMod (JA Reloaded was buggy) - then this game may actually be worth playing on the grounds that it might actually be more interesting than an Action Man game which involves little more than mouse clicks. As it is now - a JA- infested pile of sewage - you'd probably have more fun on Action Man than you would have racing to use a glitched out exploit faster than your opponent.

Still, nothing's funnier than a JA+ player who claims to be "skilled". That's the epitome of idiocy - after all, it's impossible to be skilled in battle when the battle is determined completely at random.

Oh, and FYI, I also think you're making a stupid move by using JA+ just because everyone else does. "Monkey see, monkey do" is a bad philosophy to use at any time, and especially if whatever monkey sees is a foolish idea.

Who's the greater fool - the fool, or the one who follows the fool?

Be the one to stand out, be unique, do your own thing. You'll probably attract attention from the kind of server population you actually want - i.e. decent, sensible players instead of the whiny COPPA-violating glitch kiddies - that way.

Re: FFA is dead.
 

[quote=OS |Penumbra-Omen| SCM;3437596]I want to know something.
Why did most of every1 that plays 1.01 mess up 1.01?
Why is it only dueling in FFA servers?
and not Free for All.
meaning; all out war, every man for himself, kill anything in sight.

why cant anyone find any FFA servers with no "no laming" rule?.

look everyone.
FFA is Free For All.
not dueling.
DUELING SERVERS ARE THERE FOR DUELING
FFA IS SUPPOSE TO BE THERE FOR ALL OUT KILLING.
NOT PUSSIES THAT THINK THAT LAMING IS A RULE AND ENFORCE IT.
and kick ppl for actually doing what FFA is meant for.

Noobs, even though there noobs actually know better then alot of you ppl.
They actually know what FFA is.
And Play FFA the way its meant to be played.

Look. If you want to talk for a long period of time.
go into Spectator Mode.

Its Ashame.
the only place that actually plays FFA the right way (Saber Only FFA or All Weapon FFA) is all the clans in 1.00
and there is barely 50 servers in there.

And also.
That stupid JA+
It ruined FFA to no end.
It pretty much destroyed Jedi Academy.
Destroyed the purpose of playing FFA.
Nubish Slider was not thinking straight when he made that stupid mod..
He made JA+ added things to JA that is not needed.
Messed up Force Powers. and created Force Whores that use Force Grip and only force grip and force pull.
Then He messed up Saber Only. And created The People that think that FFA means Dueling.

=]
Now. Im sorry for my madness.
But I think this should be shown into the light if it hasnt already.

And I do think this will make a good conversation. So please.
Start Replying ^_^








Hey uh if you don't like the rules how about you make your own server instead and stop :curse: about it and support your own damn cause.