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Jagga T-Rez April 5th, 2007 08:47 AM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
I'm pretty damn sure that FFAs are comin' back....i mean ive been on 1 server which you can only duel here. they said "you can only FFA in a certain place....and duel everwhere else why???:confused: they like said.....if you do that FFA here you get kicked OMG that sucks......:inthetoilet: but other servers allow FFA. Complain to the little admins and say "OMG YOU DO AN FFA BUT YOU CAN ONLY DUEL!!!??? GO 'N' THINK WHY...IS A FFA CALLED A FFA???BUT TO YOU IT MEANS : FFA means duel...in their speech they say we are gonna do a FFA.........but you can only duel....:mad:
OK i maybe going crazy :devil: (i am..probably)

The_Twig April 5th, 2007 02:41 PM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
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Originally Posted by Jagga T-Rez (Post 3613810)
I'm pretty damn sure that FFAs are comin' back....i mean ive been on 1 server which you can only duel here. they said "you can only FFA in a certain place....and duel everwhere else why???:confused: they like said.....if you do that FFA here you get kicked OMG that sucks......:inthetoilet: but other servers allow FFA. Complain to the little admins and say "OMG YOU DO AN FFA BUT YOU CAN ONLY DUEL!!!??? GO 'N' THINK WHY...IS A FFA CALLED A FFA???BUT TO YOU IT MEANS : FFA means duel...in their speech they say we are gonna do a FFA.........but you can only duel....:mad:
OK i maybe going crazy :devil: (i am..probably)

I couldn't interpret anything you just said. I think you have gone crazy.

KenshinNS April 10th, 2007 09:51 PM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
OK let me put it this way. JA+ Has flaws more people realize that then you give credit to. I for one am a Council/Founding member of a clan and we run the JA+ on our server. I myself do also play on the JAE mod servers such as The Jedi Academy.

JA+ Does have features that I like, such as grapple. However to make grapple half way decent you have to speed it up which I did. I don't abuse grapple and I only use it when i want to get to someone who just beat me in a duel before someone else does and I have to wait.

Secondly all of these so called "True FFAers" are short sighted. Because they can't upgrade to a new patch that takes 5 minutes to download and install and your ready to play. Like it has been said if you want to cry about not having enough of these so called "True FFA" servers make your own or go buy one! As for the paypal problem you can use a credit card via paypal without a paypal account! Trust me I've done it.

However we are a duel only server with the game type set to FFA. Which is not a bad thing, it allows us to chat and duel and have fun our own way. We are a clan server and we have the right to make and enforce any rule we see fit. We are fair and have a good fun time, and we don't run around yelling "noob". I personally think that anyone who calls someone a "Noob" is what the definition of this made up word is. Which to my understanding is the following "Someone who is new to the game, lacks skill, etc." That is what a "noob" is to my best understanding. However I believe people who try to degrade someone with a made up word such as "Noob" is the following, "Someone who cannot outsmart someone with real words, and doesn't want to take the time to help the newer gamers and educate them on how the game is played on the server that you are currently on."

As far as FFA being allowed on a "Duel FFA" server, well most servers I have played on allow FFA however not this so called "True FFA". Like it has been stated before if you want to play FFA on a "Duel FFA" server and they don't have a problem with it do it where there are not people chatting or dueling. The admins on the clan I am in have the right to allow a short term FFA however there is still the "No Laming" rule that protects people who do not want to free for all. Also if someone wants weapons or force and the admin has that power they can give them full access to guns and force.

As far as the "Honor Code" goes, and it limiting the community. Bull Spit and you know it. The "Honor Code" is for what I consider Good people. such things that are included in this are No ground kills and flip kicking. Now before you bite my head off for the flip kicking, let me explain.

Flip Kicking,
First of all in a duel if you flip kick someone by mistake that is fine and not against the "Honor Code". However if you continualy flip kick someone just for your pleasure that is against the "Honor Code". Its all really Common Sense. Seriously grow up.

Because Raven Soft wanted to be jerks they didn't listen to the community that wanted such options as a better duel game mode, that for example has 3 duel rooms and as soon as a spot opens up you get drooped in there, instead of the current system. So we work with what is available to us and decide based on the interest and what we want to represent.

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Originally Posted by Mkilbride
Well I do notice some hits don't register sometimes, but I've learned to get past that. It's just how it is, almost all servers run JA +, so I've just leanred to deal with it.

Thank you Mkilbride. This person here ladies and gents is someone to learn from. He got over it and learned to deal with it.

And people that say "Well this is what an FFA server should be." And things like that are short sighted. We do the best with what we have and what we have played with and like. We also do what we want to represent.

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Originally Posted by Darth_Skywalker
BUT STILL the patch isnt to blame, if you want your ffa then start your own server, rename some bots to make it look like there's lots of people on, and own some n00bs

Thank you! You have what I think is the right idea about that situation.

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Originally Posted by Kouen
I'm not arguing that people shouldn't use JA+ - I'm just arguing that they shouldn't use it just because everyone else does.

Now I do agree with that however I disagree with the following.

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Originally Posted by Kouen
It's not going to make your server any popular, and when you come on talking like a self-respecting, "skilled" player, then admit you use a mod which has no core skill requirement at all, it's just silly.

Simply because of the fact that it all depends on how the server is run and how you play. And what was stated above in my opinion was a generalization not a fact.

On a last note, this post was not meant to offend anyone, just to state my views. Also my views are not supported or endorsed by anyone but myself.

The_Twig April 11th, 2007 06:51 AM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
I can see what you're saying, but not all people have means to make/rent a server. Also I'm sure I previously said that I had a FFA server for some time and no one came. The thing was basically empty about 90% of the time. True FFA is basically dead.

As for the Honor Code, I disagree with the idea of it particularly in a True FFA based server. No such thing as honor in such a setting. Kill or be killed is what it's all about.

KenshinNS April 11th, 2007 10:13 AM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Twig (Post 3625493)
I can see what you're saying, but not all people have means to make/rent a server. Also I'm sure I previously said that I had a FFA server for some time and no one came. The thing was basically empty about 90% of the time. True FFA is basically dead.

As for the Honor Code, I disagree with the idea of it particularly in a True FFA based server. No such thing as honor in such a setting. Kill or be killed is what it's all about.

Well as far as no one coming to your server I can see that is a problem, it could be because they know what goes for the rules there and don't like it. Or it could be something else. And I am sorry that no one came to the server that you had. Also I know not everyone has the means and ways of getting a server however with some creative thinking and the right contacts I'm sure most people can come up with something.

As for the Honor Code I stated above, I agree with you that it does not hold any value in the so called "True FFA" servers. However it does hold in many servers.

Again these are my opinions and are not supported nor endorsed by anyone but myself.

The_Twig April 11th, 2007 05:44 PM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenshinNS (Post 3625613)
Well as far as no one coming to your server I can see that is a problem, it could be because they know what goes for the rules there and don't like it. Or it could be something else. And I am sorry that no one came to the server that you had. Also I know not everyone has the means and ways of getting a server however with some creative thinking and the right contacts I'm sure most people can come up with something.

As for the Honor Code I stated above, I agree with you that it does not hold any value in the so called "True FFA" servers. However it does hold in many servers.

Again these are my opinions and are not supported nor endorsed by anyone but myself.

Yeah it grows tiresome. I'm sorry no one came in either. I miss the golden days man. One server used to be near full everyday. Server screwed up got a new one and it was extinct. That's just sad.

By the way, I have no problems with your opinion.

KenshinNS April 12th, 2007 05:46 AM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
I know, its just when I've stated my opinion before people have gone back to the clan and it caused a bunch of bull spit. (Not in my current one.) So I just add that little line.

Well I've been playing not 2 years now, so I wouldn't know how things used to be.

The_Twig April 12th, 2007 03:35 PM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenshinNS (Post 3627436)
I know, its just when I've stated my opinion before people have gone back to the clan and it caused a bunch of bull spit. (Not in my current one.) So I just add that little line.

Well I've been playing not 2 years now, so I wouldn't know how things used to be.

I think I been a clan leader for about 3-3.5 years now. It really didn't get bad until toward the half of my second year. Generally there have always been more RPers/saberists than FFAers, but when one of my previous clan servers gone down it as I said went completely down hill. That's just about how it's been since then except I had the person renting the server just close it down for the sake of now having to waste his money haha

KenshinNS April 12th, 2007 05:08 PM

Re: FFA is dead.
 
So, OS |Penumbra-Omen| SCM when did you get your copy of Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy?

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Originally Posted by OS |Penumbra-Omen| SCM
look everyone.
FFA is Free For All.
not dueling.
DUELING SERVERS ARE THERE FOR DUELING
FFA IS SUPPOSE TO BE THERE FOR ALL OUT KILLING.
NOT PUSSIES THAT THINK THAT LAMING IS A RULE AND ENFORCE IT.
and kick ppl for actually doing what FFA is meant for.

Hmmm....this makes we wonder how good is base 1.00 or 1.01. With people talking along those lines, who don't allow people to do the best they can with what they got.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OS |Penumbra-Omen| SCM
Look. If you want to talk for a long period of time.
go into Spectator Mode.

Hmm well lets see here. Well I personally rather be in game with a cool model chatting with someone, not on Xfire, not in spectator, but in game.

1 last thing before I go.
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Originally Posted by The JK2 Community


ABCIMe123 May 1st, 2007 02:21 PM

Well if a server has bots, usually it will be more FFA-oriented.


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