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ABCIMe123 June 1st, 2007 09:50 AM

Jedi Master is like Juggernaut from Halo, Top Agent from Agent Under Fire or Gladiator from TimeSplitters, not King of the Hill.

I don't mind some laming rules like rules against chat-box laming, but I don't like it when people say I can't attack people with their lightsaber down. What if they use force lightning on me? Also, I was playing on one server where it was considered laming to attack people with their sabers UP

NEWORDER June 3rd, 2007 06:38 PM

Ffa Is Back On Jk2
 
YES THEIR ARE A LOT OF SEVERS WITH NO LAMEN BUT LCN AND FLAW ARE TWO GOOD ONES FORCE POWER AND SABERS AND LCN WILL PUT ON GUNS IF ASKED NO RULES JUST HAVE FUN KILL ANYONE WITH CHAT BOX UP :beer:OR PLAYING WITH THEM SELVES

tarbaby June 3rd, 2007 07:45 PM

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Jedi Master is like Juggernaut from Halo, Top Agent from Agent Under Fire or Gladiator from TimeSplitters, not King of the Hill.
I stand corrected.

Penguin_Unit June 3rd, 2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawa Jedi (Post 3710669)
I laugh at you JA+ haters.

Slider didn't make anything bad. He made stuff better. You say simply because dueling is made 100% better in an FFA that he ruined. He specifically made a thing called "alternate dimension" for all you read-me haters. It's where all the bloodthirsty mercs go to FFA 'till they die. Usually, however, all servers are set on the main dimension, which is where FFA'ers are intended to be with grapple hook and such. Just because hardly any servers actually USE the alternate dimension doesn't mean you should flame slider.

Though I agree people need to start FFA only servers. It does get tiring, and I wish people would realize that. Maybe somebody from FileFront should start a "True FFA" server.

And Kouen's pretty much spot on.

But can we simply say that some of us agree to disagree? That's what a debate is in the end, really. State your opinions, your facts, and your argument, defend it, then leave. Don't keep rehashing the same argument 20 times.

Spoken like a true Haxx Kiddie.

erfg1 June 3rd, 2007 11:11 PM

Not all servers are made for everyone.

In my opinion, in Slider's latest releases with the alternative dimensions for true FFAing, that might have been a good idea on paper, but in the end it just made things 10x more confusing for people who havent used it.

Probobly what was suppose to happen with dueling in basejka was to duel if you thought someone was really good and you wanted to fight them to see whos better in the middle of a FFA, otherwhise I dont think it was meant for servers to let people sit back and duel all day.

There still are some FFA servers out there, like BASEJKA for example. There are also some rented out servers that have JA+ but no admins on them so you could play on those too.

Generally the most popular servers are the ones with admins on them so they can keep the newbies happy. But otherwhise the true FFA servers are semi-dead because not everyone wants to FFA now.

Plus, to be honest, JKA is a very old game. If you think somethings wrong with the game, why not just purchase another game and move on. No ones paying you to sit here and play a game. Try a shooting game like call of duty or quake 4. I'm sure people like you would have more fun there, then here.

{LJK}Echo June 5th, 2007 08:58 PM

omg, people, if you want good ffa go to baseservers.
like savior, Overrated, nse, fallen.
not only do you not play constantly, but learn how to play good, considering that most base servers are the ones the 1337 players play.
*poke* *wiggle*
Just at the server select, beside where it sais game: switch it to "Jedi Academy", not "all" or "Ja+ 2.3 w/e"
JA+ servers suck in skillz and not true ffa's..

theres a few, play on some good servers..

Penguin_Unit June 5th, 2007 09:10 PM

Maybe we would play them...if there were any left. 9/10 serves are all JA+, and the rest are empty/other mods. Nothing to play anymore, cept Haxx-Kiddie mod.

SESSH July 24th, 2007 09:21 AM

Y'know, I've seen some good arguments, and I've seen some realy stupid arguments in this thread. And here's my take on the whole thing. I am currently in a clan that uses JA+. JA+ has lots and I mean lots of problems.

Hit boxes are messed up. Damages are off from base JKA. Lots of the crap moves that Slider thought would be ''kewl'' sucked balls. And the alt dimension needed alot of help.

But now, I've never seen an FFA server that was ''duel only''. I've seen alot of FFA servers that have the laming rule, but never ''duel only''. I've been playing this game for over a year, and been in many servers, and I've seen ''duel'' servers, and such. But never a FFA server that was ''duel only''.

But now onto the ''No Laming'' rule.

On our server, we made the rule because there are people who get bored of killing people all the time. Sometimes we want to duel, and other times we just want to chat. If the chat wasn't supposed to be there, then why did they put it on the game? "you're not supposed to sit and chat, it's a killing game'' is the stupidest response I've ever seen from a ''lamer''. We like to sit and chat because we've made friendships on the game. Our server gets alot of traffic to be honest.

My views on ''Laming'' goes as so. If you have to get a kill by killing someone who's just standing there, and then claim you're 1337, you're a laughing stock, and don't deserve to be playing in the first place.

If someone is new, and doesnt know about our rule, i'll let them know, then let them be. If they still do not choose to obey our rule, then they sit there. I dont kick. Thats pointless, leave them there, ghost them. They're extra traffic. Why kick someone that is there and bringing extra traffic for being there? If they spam, silence them.

I also will punish people who try to ''exploit'' the laming rule. Idiots that put their saber down in the middle of someone attacking them, deserves to die. It's their own stupid fault. And if they wana claim lame, i'll ignore them.

Basicaly, if you don't like our rules, you dont have to play there. If you want to FFA fine, kill anyone with a saber up. Or if we decide to have force powers, kill the people with force or saber up, or weapons. As long as you don't kill those who have opted to not be part of the FFA.

And if you can't accept our rules, don't try to force your own ideals down our throats. Why argue with an admin that this is an FFA and you can do what you want?

Technicaly, you don't own the server. Your'e not paying for the bandwidth, or server rental. So therefore, you have absolutely no rights except for the ones that we extend to you as a courtesy.

If you want a ''TRUE FFA'' then make a server or go find one. We of the ''NO LAMING'' community do not force you to play on our servers. But we do expect that you obey our rules. If not, then your dumb but deserves whatever punishment the admin deals to you.

Technicaly, you have no rights on someone else's server. So bitching, and claiming admin abuse, or ''LAMER'' or anything else on someone else's server is plain ''lame'' in my opinion.

The One and Only July 24th, 2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SESSH (Post 3815360)
We like to sit and chat because we've made friendships on the game.

If you want to chat rather than play, do it from spectator mode though. That way it completely removes any chance of "Laming".

Anson992 July 27th, 2007 04:24 PM

Also you guys can grab each others e-mails, IMs and the like.

Tanith July 28th, 2007 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by {LJK}Echo (Post 3720534)
omg, people, if you want good ffa go to baseservers.
like savior, Overrated, nse, fallen.
not only do you not play constantly, but learn how to play good, considering that most base servers are the ones the 1337 players play.
*poke* *wiggle*
Just at the server select, beside where it sais game: switch it to "Jedi Academy", not "all" or "Ja+ 2.3 w/e"
JA+ servers suck in skillz and not true ffa's..


theres a few, play on some good servers..

Fully agree with you there.

ps those ips are for BASE servers not JA+ and they do have alot of skilled people on them. I know because im in dc and have been to the other 2 servers mentioned

Few more base servers:

Theres more btw and generally lamming is very little and very few people complain about it.

StarWarsGeek July 28th, 2007 09:55 PM

i have the urge to lrn how to mod just so i can create something called JA-.
every time you say the word lame (including lamer, lamed, and laming) you get slept for 2 minutes. say it a few more and u get teleported to IM world (equivelent of main demension in ja+) and cannot get out. say it again while in IM world and you get muted. attempt to say it again and you get a temp ban.

kagero July 30th, 2007 01:32 PM

lol no1 on this topic could even be considered anything close to "pro" so shhhhhhh

p.s. starwarsgeek (if ur the same starwarsgeek that was on choosen yesterday) thanks for the nipslip trivia, i loled

The One and Only July 30th, 2007 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kagero (Post 3827776)
lol no1 on this topic could even be considered anything close to "pro"

[sarcasm]That explains how I can snipe people off moving swoops with the disruptor![/sarcasm] Well, even so, I wouldn't consider myself pro, just annoyingly good at certain things. personally I prefer TFFA to FFA, and the good thing about TFFA is that you're far less likely to find servers with people just sitting around doing nothing, or dueling or something else.

kagero July 30th, 2007 01:50 PM

well, what i was trying to say, its its not lik an, "OMG only noobs cry laming thing" cus laming is about respect, and there is a gamemode or mod for every1, its only when noob ppl run around acting dump and kicking u then running and then cry lame that ur lik, wth.... usually ppl dun lame u if they respect u, or its just lik a joking thing

p.s. mb2 is where all the real gunner/sniper skills is at

StarWarsGeek August 1st, 2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kagero (Post 3827776)
p.s. starwarsgeek (if ur the same starwarsgeek that was on choosen yesterday) thanks for the nipslip trivia, i loled

lol ya that was me. i play mb2 cause im 1337 and like a challenge. and i love the laughs i get from base noobs taht walk in. they think they can chat in the main hallway on dotf and get a proj shot in the side of the head and start whining. :lol: btw whats ur name on mb2?

and sessh, the chat was implemented for the same reasons it was implemented in other games. and in other games, u can shoot people while thier chatting and all they do is go ":-(" and keep playing. its a fighting game, and an ffa server, so im gonna fight, and do an FFA.

*slices noobs head off*
"OMFG!! LAMERZ!!!"
*i get banned*

'Harmonium August 1st, 2007 03:55 PM

I really have to agree with both of you guys Tanith and Echo. As a clan and team leader, i can see the difference of the servers. My clan is based on JAE, a really good mod but i think it's unknown from JA players. My clan's team, who tffas on base, has loads of people on mainly because we do pug tffas or ffa. Most ppl who come on our base servers always have that 'feeling' that they are on IM, but 3d. Then some on kills em, when they arent fighting, they come an whine at us. That really proves that JA+ has changed too many things at JKA's gameplay, much of those persons actually only katas too... and they think they are wannabes... when they kill someone, they say ''own3d or pwn3d'' lmao! But they dont even think we killed those guys 3-4 times in a row before dying to them. I really enjoy playing with real base players, such as unReal, Savior, fuse, eXplosive and much more. Those guys know the game, and it's not like JA+ playas...

kagero August 2nd, 2007 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by StarWarsGeek (Post 3831747)
btw whats ur name on mb2?

roflicer lawl or lawl my xfire is k4g3r0 feel free to add me, we can do co-op 1 day

ithaqua August 6th, 2007 08:50 AM

I have a question for you guys, is JA+ more of a change to tactics or attitude, that's bothering you. I have just recently returned to JKA and can't find any good base servers, they all seem to be running JA+ or, they dont have anyone in them.

I was told that the in-game search function sucks, so could someone recommend a 3rd party software that can find good servers (or more, w/e) for me.

Anyway, I noticed JA+ fixed a couple problems, like the one-shot staff butterfly. That's a good thing, right?

But, then I heard someone talking about JA+'s deflection system and got really worried. Is the deflection different in JA+, and if so, how so is it different?

All I can say for sure about JA+ is that it is abused. You go to a server and get /amslept instantly, even if some admin is has "merced" himself and is shooting the crap out of everyone, then you grip kick his ass because all he has is "flame thrower", and he sleeps you for "laming the admin". Oh and Grapple and Jetpack are the worst things I can possibly think of.

Anyway, the only thing I do like about JA+ is the full force duel. I don't mind duels personally, it seems a lot of you like to constantly FFA but I like to do a little 1 on 1 since I'm pretty good at it. And its nice to do a FF duel, since in FF FFA everyone is just whoring pull, lightning, grip, and drain. And you're guy is jerking around like a retard from all the force.

'Harmonium August 6th, 2007 09:29 AM

When you are on the Server list page, theres a 'Game' Option, put it to Jedi Academy, you will see them, or just use Xfire and search them.

ithaqua August 6th, 2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Kronos (Post 3841169)
When you are on the Server list page, theres a 'Game' Option, put it to Jedi Academy, you will see them, or just use Xfire and search them.

Yes I know how to do this, but people have told me that it still doesn't list all of the servers out there. Maybe they were wrong though.

'Harmonium August 6th, 2007 09:48 AM

Some servers arent listed in like ESL teams such as xeTox, aXiom, nL and more. You need the ip to connect to it, since it doesnt shows up, and also the password sometimes.

Tanith August 6th, 2007 01:35 PM

True but esl is a bit gay now but if your looking for good base server go back 1 or 2 pages to one of my previous posts, loads were posted.

Jax2000 August 6th, 2007 03:26 PM

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why cant anyone find any FFA servers with no "no laming" rule?
generally any admin in there right mind would impose no laming, have you noticed people DONT JUST FIGHT, the SOCIALISE!

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FFA is Free For All.
not dueling.
DUELING SERVERS ARE THERE FOR DUELING
FFA IS SUPPOSE TO BE THERE FOR ALL OUT KILLING.
NOT PUSSIES THAT THINK THAT LAMING IS A RULE AND ENFORCE IT.
and kick ppl for actually doing what FFA is meant for.
Apart from breaking several rules including flaming and sexual terms (pussies)

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Nubish Slider was not thinking straight when he made that stupid mod..
I WANNA SEE YOU DO BETTER WITH YOUR STUPID FFA MOD THAT NOBODY WILL EVER DOWNLOAD, AT LEAST SLIDERS GOT SENSE AND CAN DO SOMTHING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN FLAME IT!

*explode*

Jax2000 August 6th, 2007 03:27 PM

sry double post

EoA-Leonidas August 19th, 2007 11:39 AM

In MY server, it is a FFA map and Game type but Laming is Prohibited in the Primary Dimension. THis is where we do our training and we do not like to get intturpted by some noob swinging his saber wildly at every1. Thats what the ALT dimension is for,, u can ffa all u want in there, Lame away for all i care,, Primary DImension is for people who just wanna hang out and train and not be intturpted by all u so called FFA noobs out there :P.

The_Twig August 20th, 2007 03:40 AM

Finally got a server up. It's full weapons, full Force (in exclusion to lightning)

We're still working out the problems or what ever, but if you're interested in actual FFA send me a private message.

sadmanZERO August 21st, 2007 01:43 PM

Note: Did not read entire thread, too lazy

Okay, I totally agree with the maker of this post. I despise these retarded "rules." My brother was playing Jedi Academy/JA+ once and he was fighting someone who was in power there (and it WAS FFA, not an arepee server) and they were having a nice duel and then at the last second, the guy put his light saber in before he died. Then he amslept my brother for laming because he had his saber in. I had to step in to get my brother out of trouble because the idiot refused to listen to my brother's reasoning.


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