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Default Re: Half-Life 2 Desert Combat Mod!! BF2 Sucks Again!

Its just like helicopters in the BF1942 version of the Refractor 2 engine. The engine couldn't really support proper helicopter physics, because it was never designed with such a thing in mind. The modified, graphically, and physics wise, BFV version of the Refractor 2 engine could much better support helicopter physics, because it was made more towards such.

In short, I highly doubt the HL2 engine can support such physics, at least nowhere near properly. Same thing with the tanks. I have never once seen a mod create anything better than the creators of the game (BF1942) weapons wise. In BF2, I will be suprised if a mod team can make guns look better than they already do. America's Army's weapons, don't have anywhere near as good bumpmapping (none, AFAIK) and just don't appeal to me. Granted, AA has the bullets in the magazine, etc.

There isn't any way that this can ever pan out, because the engine really cannot support something like this. Its far too much already for the engine just to have to calculate all the stuff going on in each level, but to make a massive battlefield, like in BF2, will be impossible, because it taxes the engine so much. The BF2 engine is designed for vehicles, and massive maps.


Plus, due to legal reasons (Trauma Studios is owned by Dice and EA) you can't call it Desert Combat, without their explicit legal permission.
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Default Re: Half-Life 2 Desert Combat Mod!! BF2 Sucks Again!

So the people who made the DC mod are now employed by EA or what?
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they were employed by dice, but then were fired when they refused to move to sweden where the main dice hq is.
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Ah right, thanks for the info. Are they still like modders in America or wherever then?
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they are both entirely different games, half life 2 is better for deathmatch play, and bf2 is better for wide open, squad based, shoot everyone in your tank and run away laughing game.
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Default Re: Half-Life 2 Desert Combat Mod!! BF2 Sucks Again!

I guess you have a VERY slow comp or your just really bad at BF2

vietnam a joke? I think not.

I suggest you get an nvidia card next time if your having problems, as I have played for hours and hours and it's only crash once. (AIM)

FYI, the engine is brand new, capable of way more than they are even showing, such as supporting much more than 64 players.
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Ok i guess that would be cool . . .
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there is one. its called Insurgency. and it looks damn fine!

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Default Re: Half-Life 2 Desert Combat Mod!! BF2 Sucks Again!

half life 2 isn't really a vehicle based game, however i think an infantry only mod would work with the way the game is set up.
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Hello all, I know I won't be speaking for everyone out there but I will be definitely speaking for a lot when I say BF2 really lost it somewhere. I don't know if they weren't listening when 80% of the public thought BF Vietnam was a joke and after the hype went back to playing Battlefields 1942 DC/DC Final Mod but for some odd reason they still used the same engine for BF2. I'm guessing it's to cater for all those X-Box owners who will rush out and buy it. Well I didn't spend $2000 on my PC to play X-Box games... And then of course it's very evident that a good percentage of people are having compatibility problems with or without the new driver supporting BF2's new shaders (77.3+).



However HL2 WOW what a game! absolutely brilliant graphics at incredibly smooth frames, even for those that can't afford a giant graphics card like a FX6### series. And of course no compatibility issues or special drivers needed.



HL2 is the perfect foundation for what could be the worlds LEADING Combat game. With the stidermod giving us pilot control over some more serious toys like Heli's etc. Still needing improving, unfortunately it's not going to happen through its original creator. But someone could definitely build on it. Then HL2's large 3D environments, which BF2 surely lacks!



Unfortunately I am in know way a graphics designer or programmer but I see there are many people in the process of making a HL2 Mod who are obviously very capable! I would propose that those who are interested to leave comments in this post. If there is enough talent interested then I believe together you could have some very large game developers sorting after you on completion. Also the general publics criticism would be great supporting or not supporting the idea.
everyday i work with the source engine i find its weaker and weaker. especially in shadowing. (fyi, people who cant afford 6xxx peice of crap cards dont have to worry, about everything in hl2 is pre-rendered, especially the lighting, all pre-rendered, nothing specail, and the havock engine really sucks, ODE ownz it.)the new HDR crap is kinda half assed, and hl2 aftermat shoudnt be greater than hl2. done get me wrong, im a hl2 fan, but the source engine is getting outdated fast. x-ray surpasses it, and ODE engine surpasses havock engine. the PAIN engine was more beautiful than source, the only thing the PAIN engine lacked was good bumb mapping, the game the mad (PAINKILLER) was great, best game iv played since original dooms, but in all honesty, bf2 did suck, but if they put it on the source engine, it would be no better.
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