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Nemmerle July 22nd, 2005 08:06 PM

Re: Ronald Reagan
 
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Originally Posted by Mihail
I don't own my own country.

:uhh: He means how is Russia doing. An essentially flawed comment considering Russia is now a capitalist system, but still.
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Originally Posted by WiseBobo
Reagan was 'very much there' during his two terms.

He didn't get the nickname 'President Ray-gun' for nothing.

WiseBobo July 22nd, 2005 08:07 PM

Re: Ronald Reagan
 
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Originally Posted by Mihail
He was nearly deaf, and he was losing his mind due to age and his alzheimer's.

He was perfectly fine.

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I don't own my own country.
Don't be a smart ass.

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It's a mere practice and form of communism, communism can be dated back as far as civilized man has walked the earth, jesus promoted communism as well.
Marx is the founding father of communism. Jesus promoting communism, when the practice itself is mainly composed of Atheists, laff.

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Which nation has fully conformed itself to communism? None.
My statement I guess must be repeated.

To argue that true communism has been never seen by the world is the word of a fool. To go even further and say that the world leaders of communist countries in year past were never influenced by Marx or his teachings is the mark of a moron.

Keep telling yourself that the U.S.S.R. and China were never communist, better yet, tell that to the family members of the 70 million civilians murdered between the two of them last century.

Mihail July 22nd, 2005 08:10 PM

Re: Ronald Reagan
 
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He means how is Russia doing. An essentially flawed comment considering Russia is now a capitalist system, but still.
I'm well aware of what he ment, but his series of questions are flawed.

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He was perfectly fine.
He was not.

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Marx is the founding father of communism
No, hes the founder of the ideology, but the practice is two different things.

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To argue that true communism has been never seen by the world is the word of a fool. To go even further and say that the world leaders of communist countries in year past were never influenced by Marx or his teachings is the mark of a moron.

Keep telling yourself that the U.S.S.R. and China were never communist, better yet, tell that to the family members of the 70 million civilians murdered between the two of them last century.
One needs not to look any further to see that Our version of communism was a capitalist communism, your telling yourself otherwise.

Nemmerle July 22nd, 2005 08:11 PM

Re: Ronald Reagan
 
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Originally Posted by WiseBobo
Keep telling yourself that the U.S.S.R or China were never communist, better yet, tell that to the family members of the 70 million civilians murdered between the two of them.

Straw-man argument. The number of people they killed has nothing to do with it. If we go that route let's take Nazi Germany, that was clearly a communist country, just look at how many people it killed.

To suggest that a high death count is the mark of communism is extremely foolish; throughout history, capitalism has ended more lives than any other form of economic model.
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Originally Posted by WiseBobo
Marx is the founding father of communism.

No, Marx is the person who wrote a lot of rubbish based on some nice ideas and slapped the label 'communism' on it. He did not create it.

Relander July 24th, 2005 12:39 PM

Re: Ronald Reagan
 
You never get tired on pointless arguing, do you? Moderators should know it better :uhm:

Nemmerle July 24th, 2005 12:46 PM

Re: Ronald Reagan
 
Moderators are just like you and me, most of them enjoy a good argument, I should know I am one on a few other forums.
If moderators were to get rid of all pointless arguing on forums they'd have to delete pretty much every single post on every single subject.

silian July 25th, 2005 04:11 AM

Re: Ronald Reagan
 
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Originally Posted by WiseBobo
He was perfectly fine.

You'd have to be mad not to think he was a brick short of a load.

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