Need help identifying some stuff I found (WW2)

Gauntlet · May 9th, 2005

So, I was going through some stuff, and I found something I had forgot. I need help identifying some stuff, thats all:

I know this is a German helmet of some kind, but what I need is the designation giving by the Germans?

German wound medals?

Unknown thing. Looks like some sort of guidance-stick for either cars or planes parking. Dont even know if this is WW2, just found it with the other things.

Ammo belt of some kind. Looks like some 7.62/7.92mm. Can anyone verify? Dont even know if this is WW2, just found it with the other things.

I guess this is some sorta thing for a cigarette some prisoner in a camp made?

ANY HELP WILL BE APRECCIATED!

(dont let his turn into a "what ww2-things I have"-thread.)

Gauntlet · May 9th, 2005

Update: Shows the comparable size of the cigarette holder. It must be it.

EDIT:
Just found a much shorter belt (only 25 rounds compared to the 71 on the the other belt). I noticed that the metal-strips holding the rounds togheter is upside-down on this one...

TOP TWO BELTS!

THIS AMMO BELTS IS BEGGINING TO LOOK LIKE A FRAUD!

***Big Lebowski*** · May 9th, 2005

The medals are wound badges. you would resive it if you where wounded in action, the where black, silver and gold wound badges.

Black Wound Badge:
Wounded 1 or 2x by hostile action or air raid, or
Wounded from frost-bite in the line of duty.

Wound Badge in Silver:
Wounded 3 or 4x by hostile action or air raid, or
Loss of a hand or foot via hostile action, or
Loss of an eye via hostile action, or
Loss or partial loss of hearing via hostile action, or
Brain damage via hostile action, or
Facial disfigurement via hostile action.

Wound Badge in Gold:
Wounded 5 times or more by hostile action, or
Total blindness via hostile action, or
Severe brain damage via hostile action, or
As a result of being killed in action

Actully i have a ammo belt that looks like yours, so i would guess it's from a ww2 MG42.. if your real lucky that is.
it's most lickly from a newer model of the MG42 like the MG3 (the norwegian troops use MG3's right?) left by, after an training exersice.

The helmet looks like a Heer M1942 helmet

Gauntlet · May 9th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big LeBowSki

it's most lickly from a newer model of the MG42 like the MG3 (the norwegian troops use MG3's right?)

Yes, they do.

And BUG$ told me that the ammo belts looks exactly what they look likes in the modern German Army, and I guess they are using the MG3 too. So it doesnt have to be an orginal WW2 ammo belt.

Gauntlet · May 9th, 2005

BTW:
I've read somewhere that it was given ~5 millions wound badges during WW2. How many of them were NOT the black one? In other words, how rare is the silver one?

***kaffenor*** · May 9th, 2005

Jupp thats a ammo belt for the MG3. Used it enough to recognice it

Gauntlet · May 9th, 2005

Takk skal du ha!

But do you know if the exactly same one were used on the MG42?

***Big Lebowski*** · May 9th, 2005

Quote:

BTW:
I've read somewhere that it was given ~5 millions wound badges during WW2. How many of them were NOT the black one? In other words, how rare is the silver one?

i cant find any real numbers, but i do know that the gold wound badge is being heavily reproduced.. so i would say it's better to have 2 black and one silver thats the real thing, insted one fake gold.

ohh and the guidance-stick there could be ww2.. atleast i saw one being used to direct the german forces in a video clip of the invasion of denmark.

so where do you have all this stuff from?

Gauntlet · May 9th, 2005

Well. I got it from my grandfather a long time ago. Back then I wasnt that much interested in WW2, so after "playing" with it for a while I put it in a cardboard box and set it away under the stairs.

Yesterday (after reeding numerous posts about what ww2-things you have) I remembered I had some myself, and today I found it!

My grandfather either found it during the war, or right after it, in Narvik, and gave it to me, together with an German gas mask which I cant find yet.

The guidance-stick in Anlushacs words: "I want to belive it were used by German MPs, but its hard to tell". He also said that since it could be folded down, it could be perfect to put on an MC (which the MP used alot).

EDIT: BTW! According to Lexikon der Wehrmacht, the badge on the helmet (which Anlushac, BUG$ and myself identified as an M35/42) was used by both the Heer and the Kriegsmarine. Anyone know how to further see differnces between Heer & Kriegsmarine helmets? Maybe the color makes its an Heer helmet?

***Big Lebowski*** · May 9th, 2005

well most Kriegsmarine helmets where painted battleship grey to macth the ship.. your helmet looks more like a greenis/black color, so as i said in my first post, my guess would be it's a Heer M1942 helmet.