Best Tank of World War II

[Hohenzollern]

I concur ....it looks ok to me too. And I still think the T-34/85 was the most balanced tank of the Second World War. I'm getting me one of them bad boys too!

[Anlushac11]

Yeah I would nt mind having a T-34 of any kind in the garage. A guy I used to do minature armor wargaming with, his dad has a M4A3 Sherman but it has no guns. They have been trying for years to get a permit so they can restore it to full WW2 combat ready status.

[FreakNasty]

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Actually I found the article Mihails posted dead on correct. I found no fault with it at all.

maybe i missinterpreted Mihails intention with that posting. i had the feeling that he wanted to prove me wrong with the datas of the battle of Prochorovka i made.

Originally Posted by Mihail

...The battle raged on all day and by evening as the last shots were being fired the two sides disengaged. German losses amounted to over 300 tanks lost with the Soviets losing a similar number...

and this was the part what made me think so. obsolete and wrong. the recap of events in the main is correct though. so if i got that wrong i want to apologize to Mihail

Originally Posted by Nesh_reanimator

When will you undrstand at last, there aren`t any propoganda in russia, exept your, pro-american. We watch your gilms, listen you musik, even eat your food. (SOme, actualy, I`m not). Fortunatly, there are some people, that could understand the true meening of things, and if you think, that bush isn`t an idiot, just watch him on TV more often. You could easely heard something special from him =) Abu-garu...abu- gare....Abu-garuba...Abu-gariba

i'm not American and i'm not pro bush. i'm just no extremist and not only one-way thinking. Bush is not the first politician who misspeaked btw...



btw. this is the book i'm talking about. Janusz Piekalkiewicz is a well known World War II historian, and i trust him more than most articles i can find on the internet...

[USMA2010]

Hmm... any English translation available?

Oh, Mihail, Kursk wasn't just the largest battle of armour, but the largest battle, ever.

However, it technically was't one large battle, rather a series of smaller engagements. Orel and Prohorkovoka are two obvious exceptions.

[FreakNasty]

Originally Posted by [11PzG] USMA2010

Hmm... any English translation available?

a lot of his books have been translated into English. you can find them @ amazon or any bigger booksellers shop me thinks...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...828555-7908913

edit: link does not work for some reason, type in Piekalkiewicz at amazon.com and hit the search-button

[USMA2010]

Sweet, thanks.

[Red Toxa]

Originally Posted by FreakNasty

btw. this is the book i'm talking about. Janusz Piekalkiewicz is a well known World War II historian, and i trust him more than most articles i can find on the internet...

Well what do you expect our former enemies to write about? About their losses? Is it actually written by a veteran or a "scientific commision on WWII battles"?

And about the tank, that would be IS-3. After the war, it was considered the best tank in the world, until 64 (when T-64 came out)

[FreakNasty]

Originally Posted by Red Toxa

Well what do you expect our former enemies to write about? About their losses? Is it actually written by a veteran or a "scientific commision on WWII battles"?

And about the tank, that would be IS-3. After the war, it was considered the best tank in the world, until 64 (when T-64 came out)

dude, Janusz Piekalkiewicz was from Poland and a concentration camp prisoner...

[Anlushac11]

If I had to select the best Russian AFV design of WW2 I would go with a shocking and much contested choice.

I go with the T-44. Why you ask? Didnt officialy see combat in WW2 but some pre productions versions were put into combat in Ukraine to see how they operated in combat.

This tank was to replace the T-34 and is significant in that almost all modern Soviet tank designs can trace their lineage to this tank.

It was mechanically unreliable when it came out but it was revised and improved, given a new turret inspired by the IS-3 mounting IMHO the best Soviet A/T gun of WW2 , the D-10 100mm gun and was renamed the T-54. At the time the T-54 was as good if not better than anyhting in the world except the Centurion with the L7 105mm gun.

[USMA2010]

Huh, never heard of it. Any chance that out could post some pictures and information on this AFV?