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I still think that it's up to player. Remember that you go to the Citadel because basicallly you're in the world where there is nowhere to go back to/hide. It was the only obvious culimination of Gordon's struggle in these conditions and G-Man knew it. Game is designed in a way though, that noone actaully implys what your charachter feels or think, so it's up to you werther you went to Citadel after Alyx, because you had no other way, because it was misterious or because you had feeling that this will be the culiminating point. Still all what you were doing so far could be always explained with several reasonings.
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Has anyone watched the NEWEST Episode 2 trailer? It starts with some interesting G-man related stuff.
***SPOILERS***


G-man is in his black stasis relm, and alyx's seemingly dead body is on the ground (although i believe she is simply in a coma like state, such as the one gordon was in for 20 years.) G-man walks to the body and kneels down saying the words "Your not supposed to be here" Then he looks to the screen, smiles (This is Gmans first smile!), and says "Forget about all this".

*END OF SPOILER*

Maybe the Gman has taken Alyx captive and is to hold her until he gets what he wants? Maybe he wishes to use her much like he used gordon. She can adapt, fight, and survive in the same ways, if not better, than gordon. Maybe he has much larger plans for her than have been preiviously shown?
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Has anyone watched the NEWEST Episode 2 trailer? It starts with some interesting G-man related stuff.
***SPOILERS***


G-man is in his black stasis relm, and alyx's seemingly dead body is on the ground (although i believe she is simply in a coma like state, such as the one gordon was in for 20 years.) G-man walks to the body and kneels down saying the words "Your not supposed to be here" Then he looks to the screen, smiles (This is Gmans first smile!), and says "Forget about all this".

*END OF SPOILER*

Maybe the Gman has taken Alyx captive and is to hold her until he gets what he wants? Maybe he wishes to use her much like he used gordon. She can adapt, fight, and survive in the same ways, if not better, than gordon. Maybe he has much larger plans for her than have been preiviously shown?
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First thing is first, G-Man smiled many times before in beginning and ending of Half-Life 2, in Epiosde One also.

It's realy hard to tell what's the case in trailer, but from what he's saying, I would rather assume that untill now G-Man was simply ignoring Alyx. But this time she got into his why, wether it is physically or just that she hanged around Gordon too much.
Is there much else to say?
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I guess Gordon would like her too, because after she got knocked out & kidnapped by the Combine....Gordon just went after her all the way to the citadel to rescue her "Damsel in distress" becides getting Eli. Alyx was on Gordons mind, by playing hero like that.

Whenever Alyx is in-trouble He try's his best, to save her "Playing hero" lol.
Eh, in HL2, the G-man forced Gordon into a situation where he could either a)Die, at the hands of the combine. Or b)Survive and adapt. (Gman mentions being fascinated with those who survive and adapt at the end of opposing force, I believe. Gordon obviously does it 'best' by not just staying alive, but utterly destroying whatever messes up his life.)
Babblebabble, Breen mentions Gordon's contract being open to the highest bidder; So someone hired Gordon (GASP! WHO?! Listen in Breen's office.), through G-man, to destroy the combine / save city 17 / random thing you accomplished in hl2, and G-man came to collect his tool after you stopped Breen from escaping. (Perhaps that was your objective?)

Gordon had no (real) choice wether to go to the citadel or not.

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Game is designed in a way though, that no one actually implies what your character feels or thinks
Bingo!
Back to the main topic (sorry) Yeah, the 'crush' thing is a definite, wether Gordon likes it or not. He's as old as he was when Nihilanth died, she's a tad younger, they're saving each other's lives over and over again... <insert everything that's already been said>

But did anyone else get nervous and fall off of the Citadel core when you noticed Alyx watching you through the window?

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There is no love there yet, its just a crush thing, they care about each other and Alyx is very flirtatious, but there is no love interest yet
The suppression field is down now; Has Alyx ever been... unsuppressed? It's all new to her, so maybe it's just lust to begin with The crowbar is just that irresistable. Thanks for reading.
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So someone hired Gordon (GASP! WHO?! Listen in Breen's office.), through G-man, to destroy the combine / save city 17 / random thing you accomplished in hl2, and G-man came to collect his tool after you stopped Breen from escaping. (Perhaps that was your objective?)
Defaintely not save City 17 as thanks to your deeds it stopped exisintg.
As for Breen mentioning 'your contract opened to a highest bidder', he might have only meant here that you still could change sides. Who knows what Combine Overwatch has decided in your case, if althoguh you're only one man, you were able to strike major blow to the trans-human overwatch wich supposedly is 'better human version'.

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But did anyone else get nervous and fall off of the Citadel core when you noticed Alyx watching you through the window?
I would rather talk about it being a pleasent thing, not something I would get nervous because of.

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The suppression field is down now; Has Alyx ever been... unsuppressed? It's all new to her, so maybe it's just lust to begin with The crowbar is just that irresistable. Thanks for reading.
Vaild... erm... observation, still it's a bit different thing than love, although I agree that two people close to eachother... erm... like getting closer sooner or later. But it's just not the most important thing people in love have on mind.
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Defaintely not save City 17 as thanks to your deeds it stopped exisintg.
Exactly, City 17 is just that, a city, a location. Gordon's ultimate goal is to free Earth (and humanity) of the Combine's grip.

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The suppression field is down now; Has Alyx ever been... unsuppressed? It's all new to her, so maybe it's just lust to begin with The crowbar is just that irresistable. Thanks for reading.
Haha, crowbar = irresistable.

Yeah, that's the problem, we still don't know exactly how the reproductive supression field works. But this is what we do know about it...
  • Early on in Half-Life 2, in one of his speeches, Dr. Breen said something about the supression field supressing "the urge to reproduce", so it's possible the supression field is two-tiered, that it supresses the urge to reproduce, and also "prevents embryonic development".
  • Dr.Kleiner stated in Episode One: "it selectively prevents certain protein chains necessary for the process of embryonic development from forming". But he doesn't mention whether it ALSO inhibits sexual urges.
Now, i'm working on the assumption that it is two-tiered and does also suppress reproductive urges. If that's the case then it's possible Alyx just feels affection for Gordon, not necessarily sexual attraction. Until the reproductive suppression field is disabled at the end of Half-Life 2, that is. Perhaps that's why Alyx seems a little more forward in Episode One. (the hug at the start, and the "got room for two in there?" comment, for example.)
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Yeah good points there, but this is how I see it..Well with the Combine Opression, I dont think Alyx has actually had the time to even think about other men, and to be honest I dont think there were any anyway. Then along comes a legendry hero out of nowhere, and all of a sudden things start going well for the Resistance. I mean Alyx see's and hears how he cuts through wave upon wave of Combine forces (literally causing thousands of Combine deaths in what 2? 3? days?), shooting down Combine gunships himself, assaulting Nova Prospect, the Combine's highest defended area apart from the Citadel, from the outer defences, and of course taking on THREE striders himself and taking them all down. Alyx most likely never had a proper childhood or proper teenage years because of the Oppression, so when someone like Gordon comes along and Alyx starts to get to know him? Well the hormones will be be like rampaging really which explains her flirting with a highly intelligent guy who doesn't fear anything. Sounds a bit strange but I think that biologically explains it. This relationship will or must expand. Valve have introduced entire new concepts to computer games that have never been used before and made them perfect, things like believable characters, emitting emotions etc etc. Now we have seen a shit load of emotions coming from all the characters, i think soon we shall see a whole lota looove, how Valve will do this im not entirely sure, just makes waiting for the next game and then the next game after that even more exiting =DPlus I loved it when Kleiner was talking about the supression field being down and you see Alyx's face light up when she says 'get busy?' quality =D

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Yes indeed, she even said at the end of Episode One: "You're my new hero!".

I'm not sure if your estimate of "thousands" of Combine deaths is accurate, though. I mean, if you did a count, you probably would get past 1,000 total kills, but only if you factored in the zombies and Xen wildlife. The Combine death toll caused by Gordon wouldn't be in the thousands, but it is definitely in the hundreds. I don't feel that would be the main reason for Alyx's attraction to Gordon, (although it would be a point of admiration.) because evidently, she has plenty of kills to her name as well. Remember what happened to those poor metrocops who had the misfortune of running into her in Point Insertion? But anyway, I'm just nit-picking because I'm bored.

A couple more reasons for Alyx's feelings for Gordon.
  • He makes his way along Highway 17 and fights through Nova Prospekt to help her find her father.
  • He battles Combine forces and eventually busts into the Citadel, risking his life countless times to rescue her and Eli.
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Exactly, City 17 is just that, a city, a location. Gordon's ultimate goal is to free Earth (and humanity) of the Combine's grip.
Actaully Gordon's goal for himself is staying alive, G-Man having controll over him places him in situations where he has no choice but furfill his 'overseer' goal.

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Yeah good points there, but this is how I see it..Well with the Combine Opression, I dont think Alyx has actually had the time to even think about other men, and to be honest I dont think there were any anyway. Then along comes a legendry hero out of nowhere, and all of a sudden things start going well for the Resistance. I mean Alyx see's and hears how he cuts through wave upon wave of Combine forces (literally causing thousands of Combine deaths in what 2? 3? days?), shooting down Combine gunships himself, assaulting Nova Prospect, the Combine's highest defended area apart from the Citadel, from the outer defences, and of course taking on THREE striders himself and taking them all down. Alyx most likely never had a proper childhood or proper teenage years because of the Oppression, so when someone like Gordon comes along and Alyx starts to get to know him? Well the hormones will be be like rampaging really which explains her flirting with a highly intelligent guy who doesn't fear anything. Sounds a bit strange but I think that biologically explains it. This relationship will or must expand. Valve have introduced entire new concepts to computer games that have never been used before and made them perfect, things like believable characters, emitting emotions etc etc. Now we have seen a shit load of emotions coming from all the characters, i think soon we shall see a whole lota looove, how Valve will do this im not entirely sure, just makes waiting for the next game and then the next game after that even more exiting =DPlus I loved it when Kleiner was talking about the supression field being down and you see Alyx's face light up when she says 'get busy?' quality =D
There rather already were men of same age, if not younger, still though if only nearly 2 decades have passed since 7 hour war, there should even still be some teenagers. Makes you wonder what Combine has done with youngest part of human population.
In any way, supression field isn't capable of preventing people from having own feelings so I trust that pairs could be found anyway. They sure would try... erm... reproduction if they nor wouldn't feel like it, not being able to reproduce or in the world they were.

As for all the 'oh heil' about Gordon taking on the Combine, I think that what we do ingame is rather trying to survive and constant feeling, rarely striking. And we wouldn't be in Nova Prospekt if Alyx wouldn't dragg us there in the first place!:P
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Yeah good point, there would have been teenagers and younger people back when the Combine first started the Oppression but since reproduction was stopped then the younger population turned to adults and so the younger population ceased to be. Also I believe Gordon would have gone to Nova Prospect anyway, even if Alyx hadn't asked him to, i mean Eli is one of Gordon's oldest friends and is one of the most important people to the resistance, and I think Gordon wouldn't have wanted Alyx to go assaulting aa high secured base without some help. Well thats the way I see it..
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