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Retroguy January 23rd, 2001 04:44 AM

Another crash to desktop sufferer
 
I seem to be another one of those 'crash to desktop' sufferers http://www.veforums.com/frown.gif I've got an athlon 950, geforce 2 GTS, and at random intervals during the gameplay (usually after only a couple of minutes) the game will just dump me back to windows.

I've tried all the solutions I've seen so far in this group...I've tried disabling AGP support in dxdiag, I've tried upgrading to DX8, lowering all the graphics options in the game, and making sure I've got the right driver number for the geforce...but to no avail.

Anyone else got any more suggestions? I'd be very grateful...Sacrifice seems like a pretty good game, what little I've seen of it...also, anyone know if Shiny are working on another patch, which might fix these dump to desktop problems?

Thanks for any help.

Retroguy.

Retroguy January 23rd, 2001 04:55 AM

Thought I should just post my dxdiag info as well...and yeah, I know the driver file for the geforce isn't the recommended 4.12.01.0618 version, but I tried that driver, and still had the same problem, so just decided to go back to the later version.

Thanks again for any help.

Retroguy.


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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/23/2001, 12:51:25
Machine name: E6M5T3
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222) A
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer:
System Model:
BIOS:
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~966MHz
Memory: 128MB RAM
Page File: 81MB used, 1839MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
DX Setup Parameters: /PackageInstall
DxDiag Version: 4.08.00.0400

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nvdisp.drv is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 344064 bytes
ddraw16.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 28496 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 24336 bytes
ddraw.vxd: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 30469 bytes
ddhelp.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 41984 bytes
dxapi.sys: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 2416 bytes
d3d8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1062400 bytes
d3dref8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 236544 bytes
d3dim.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 625936 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 872960 bytes
d3dref.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 140800 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 590096 bytes
d3drm.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 437008 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 107792 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 87312 bytes
dplayx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 245760 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 36864 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 77824 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 45056 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 69632 bytes
dpnet.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 237568 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 98304 bytes
dpnwsock.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 118784 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 90112 bytes
dpnmodem.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110592 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 282624 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 122880 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 184320 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 90112 bytes
dinput.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 176128 bytes
dinput8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 204800 bytes
dinput.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10874 bytes
dimap.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 102400 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 307200 bytes
vjoyd.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33361 bytes
joyhid.vxd: 4.88.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 13055 bytes
joy.cpl: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 155648 bytes
gcdef.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 249856 bytes
gchand.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6144 bytes
pid.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 40960 bytes
gameenum.sys: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 10512 bytes
hidgame.sys: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 12/8/1999 07:00:02 8880 bytes
dsound.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 455680 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1339392 bytes
dsound.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 48171 bytes
dswave.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 15360 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 176128 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 66560 bytes
dmusic.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 94208 bytes
dmusic16.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11008 bytes
dmusic32.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 28672 bytes
dmband.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 25600 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 59392 bytes
dmime.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 168960 bytes
dmloader.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 30720 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110080 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 130048 bytes
dmscript.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 78336 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 600576 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1069056 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 63488 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 52224 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.05.0809 English Final Retail 8/9/1999 15:48:16 497936 bytes
mciqtz.drv: 4.00.96.0729 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11776 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33792 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 167936 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 229888 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 344064 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 956416 bytes
quartz.vxd: 4.00.00.0501 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 5672 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.00.00.3845 English Final Retail 8/9/1999 15:18:26 248096 bytes
vidx16.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10240 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.05.0054 English Final Retail 6/23/2000 14:06:08 192000 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.16.0003 English Final Retail 6/22/2000 13:49:24 842240 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 135168 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 352256 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2819.15.0056 English Final Retail 6/23/2000 10:36:48 745984 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.63.0038 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 212992 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.64.0038 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 196608 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.11.15.0056 English Final Retail 6/22/2000 18:11:56 145408 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 245248 bytes
ks.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 117056 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 116224 bytes
ksuser.dll: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 41920 bytes
mspclock.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4800 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6368 bytes
swenum.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 3456 bytes
mstee.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4896 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0150&SUBSYS_10471102&REV_A3\ 280800
Display Memory: 31.5 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit)(optimal refresh rate)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nvdisp.drv
Driver Version: 4.12.01.0631 (English)
DDI Version: 7
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/20/2000 18:54:26, 91392 bytes
Driver Certified: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: *vdd
Mini VDD: nvmini.vxd
Mini VDD Date: , 0 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4210-11CF-C570-463000C2C935}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0150
SubSys ID: 0x10471102
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result:
D3D Test Result:
AGP Test Result:

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Sound Devices
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Description: AWE64G Direct Sound Driver [220]
Device ID: ISAPNP\CTL009E_DEV0000\17E32102
Manufacturer ID: 2
Product ID: 104
Type: VXD
Driver Name: SB16.VXD
Driver Version: 4.37.00.1998 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Certified: Yes
Date and Size: 4/23/1999 22:22:00, 114237 bytes
Other Files: sb16.vxd
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result:

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\gm.dls
Version: 1.00.16.0002
Ports:
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MIDI Mapper, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
AWE64G MIDI Out [330], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Creative Music Synth [220], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
AWE64G MIDI Synth [620], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Creative MIDI Instrument Mapper, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
WaveSynth/WG MIDI, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
AWE64G MIDI In [330], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Registry: OK
Music Test Result:

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Input Devices
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Device Name: Two axis, two button
Driver Name: Default
Driver Version: ()
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: , 0 bytes

Device Name: Saitek Cyborg 3D Stick USB
Driver Name: joyhid.vxd
Driver Version: 4.88.00.0400 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/3/2000 14:35:22, 13055 bytes

Poll w/ Interrupt: Yes
Registry: OK

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Input Drivers
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Registry Key: msjstick.drv<0002>
Active: Yes
DeviceID: ISAPNP\CTL009E_DEV0001\17E32102
Matching DevID: *CTL7002
16-bit Driver: msjstick.drv
32-bit Driver: vjoyd.vxd

Registry Key: msjstick.drv<0000>
Active: Yes
DeviceID: HID\VID_06A3&PID_0006\0000USB&VID_06A3&PID_0006&IN ST_0
Matching DevID: MODEMWAVE\56Modem
16-bit Driver: msjstick.drv
32-bit Driver: serwave.vxd


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DirectPlay Service Providers
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Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay Test Result:

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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Midtown Madness 2 Trial (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: MM2Trial.exe (1.00.00.0000)
Crimson Skies (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: Crimson.icd (10.13.11.1701)
Sacrifice (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: sacrifice.exe (1.00.00.0000)

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Inactive Display Entries in Registry
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None

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Inactive Sound Entries in Registry
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None



ElWatto January 23rd, 2001 10:21 AM

When the game crashes to the desktop it generates a file called thaum.err. Would you please post that as well?

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Dave Merrick
Designer
Shiny Entertainment

Retroguy January 23rd, 2001 04:57 PM

Here it is...thanks for getting back to me http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

Retroguy.

Current path 'C:\PROGRAM FILES\SHINY\SACRIFICE'
Sacrifice build 0521, Dec 14 2000

3D_D3D: Enumerating DirectDraw devices
3D_D3D: Found display device : display : Primary Display Driver
3D_D3D: Enumerating 3D devices for display
3D_D3D: Unusable 3D device : RGB Emulation : Microsoft Direct3D RGB Software Emulation
3D_D3D: Reason:
3D_D3D: No hardware rasterization
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware acceleration through Direct3D HAL
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D T&L HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware Transform and Lighting acceleration capable device
3D sound provider supports max 64 samples
Loading
Reading save game file saves\games\SI1.sac
Closing save file
Reading save game file saves\games\SI1.sac
Closing save file
Reading save game file saves\games\SI1.sac
Closing save file
Reading save game file saves\games\SI1.sac
Closing save file
Reading save game file saves\games\SI17.sac
Closing save file
Reading save game file saves\games\SI17.sac
Closing save file
Reading save game file saves\games\SI17.sac
Cannot find save Samplay ID 0x7
Cannot find save Samplay ID 0x1
Cannot find save Samplay ID 0x2
Cannot find save Samplay ID 0x3
Cannot find save Samplay ID 0x4
Cannot find save Samplay ID 0x5
Cannot find save Samplay ID 0x6
Closing save file
Changing to screen mode 1024x768x32bpp
Screen mode is 1024x768x32bpp
Triple buffering enabled
SACDOC 0x0 (local -1) requesting sacrifice of Scythe 0x0 at altar 0x0
SACDOC 0x0 (local -1) starting sacrifice of Scythe 0x0 at altar 0x0
WIZARD 0x0 (local -1) starting sacrifice at altar 0x0
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x0 - sacrifice of Scythe 0x0 has been started
Altar 0x0 - sacrifice of Scythe 0x0 has been aborted or finished
SACDOC 0x0 (local -1) requesting sacrifice of Netherfiend 0x0 at altar 0x0
SACDOC 0x0 (local -1) starting sacrifice of Netherfiend 0x0 at altar 0x0
WIZARD 0x0 (local -1) starting sacrifice at altar 0x0
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x0 - sacrifice of Netherfiend 0x0 has been started

//================================================== ===
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Fault address: 16031BEF 01:00030BEF GAME3D.DLL
Registers:
EAX:AB646980
EBX:00F901E2
ECX:05C52A78
EDX:05BFFDDC
ESI:05C52A24
EDI:0000003C
CS:EIP:0247:16031BEF
SS:ESP:024F:0072FA68 EBP:05BFFDD4
DS:024F ES:024F FS:31D7 GS:0000
Flags:00210282

Raw Stack:
0072fa68: 16034b73 05bffddc 05c52a78 ab646980
0072fa88: 04dd3e60 05c52a78 05bffddc 14002d10
0072faa8: 1605a230 019d99f0 000001d7 00000100
0072fac8: 019d99f0 18014154 011b94ec 04d9e70c
0072fae8: 3f7671dc 160281c3 0072fb18 019d9950
0072fb08: 00000007 004d1428 400dc591 019d9950
0072fb28: 00000028 04651db0 00000028 04651d94
0072fb48: 00000000 019e40dc 037f0f7f 00000008
SymLoadModule on "thaum.exe" failed (3)

ImageHlp Call stack:
Address Frame
16031BEF 00000000 WIDGET::EnumWidgets+63EF

Blind stackwalk:
16031bef: WIDGET::EnumWidgets+63EF
16034b73: WIDGET::EnumWidgets+9373
16027f01: SAXSINSTANCE::CreateMesh+281
14002d10: ERRORMGR::Assert+0
1800bf4e: _3dngn::Thumbnail16+2BAE
1605a230: SAXS::mesh+0
16027e8a: SAXSINSTANCE::CreateMesh+20A
1605a128: SAXS::actor+0
18014154: VERTEXBUFFER::BufferUninit+944
160281c3: SAXSINSTANCE: http://www.veforums.com/biggrin.gifraw+133
160471b4: DYNAMICVBUFFER::`vftable'+0


Intel-specific Call stack:
Address Module Function
16031BEF GAME3D.DLL WIDGET::EnumWidgets+0x63EF



Winkyman January 23rd, 2001 06:15 PM

I also have the SAME problem with the SAME error, I would not hold my breath waiting for an answer from Shiny as MY post is over a week old any I get nothing! Good luck, hope that you do better than me!

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Confucious say, 'tis better to be thought the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Clocktower January 24th, 2001 03:51 AM

Yeah, me too. Crash straight to desktop.
Current path 'C:\PROGRAM FILES\SHINY\SACRIFICE'
Sacrifice build 0521, Dec 14 2000

3D_D3D: Enumerating DirectDraw devices
3D_D3D: Found display device : display : Primary Display Driver
3D_D3D: Enumerating 3D devices for display
3D_D3D: Unusable 3D device : RGB Emulation : Microsoft Direct3D RGB Software Emulation
3D_D3D: Reason:
3D_D3D: No hardware rasterization
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware acceleration through Direct3D HAL
3D sound provider supports max 64 samples
Loading
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Created player 0xb2da70 local 1 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x0
Created player 0xb2da76 local 0 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x0
Player DTA69cents (0xb2da76) has baseID 0x800
Player DTA69cents (0xb2da76) is now the host
Player Clocktower (0xb2da70) has baseID 0x1000
Side 0 friendly to 0x3 enemy to 0x1c
Side 2 friendly to 0xc enemy to 0x7ffffff3
Side 3 friendly to 0xc enemy to 0x7ffffff3
Side 4 friendly to 0x10 enemy to 0x7fffffef
Side 31 friendly to 0x80000000 enemy to 0x0
Clocktower is allied with DTA69cents
Clocktower is enemy to Mortekai
Clocktower is enemy to Shahram
Side 0 is ally to 0x3 and enemy to 0x1c
Side 1 is ally to 0x3 and enemy to 0x7ffffffc
Side 2 is ally to 0xc and enemy to 0x7ffffff3
Side 3 is ally to 0xc and enemy to 0x7ffffff3
Side 4 is ally to 0x10 and enemy to 0x7fffffef
Side 31 is ally to 0x80000000 and enemy to 0x0
Changing to screen mode 800x600x16bpp
Screen mode is 800x600x16bpp
Triple buffering enabled
Altar 0x827 - sacrifice of Vortick 0x870 has been started
SACDOC 0x8dc (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Vortick 0x870 at altar 0x827
SACDOC 0x8dc (local 0) starting sacrifice of Vortick 0x870 at altar 0x827
WIZARD 0x86e (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x827
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Frostwolf 0x882 has been started
SACDOC 0x8e9 (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Frostwolf 0x882 at altar 0x821
SACDOC 0x8e9 (local 0) starting sacrifice of Frostwolf 0x882 at altar 0x821
WIZARD 0x86f (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x821
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x827 - sacrifice of Vortick 0x870 has been aborted or finished
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Frostwolf 0x882 has been aborted or finished
NTT update: Cannot find NTT 0x882
NET: Cannot update NTT 0x882
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Scarab 0x872 has been started
SACDOC 0x8f0 (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Scarab 0x872 at altar 0x821
SACDOC 0x8f0 (local 0) starting sacrifice of Scarab 0x872 at altar 0x821
WIZARD 0x86f (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x821
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Scarab 0x872 has been aborted or finished
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Spitfire 0x87e has been started
SACDOC 0x90c (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Spitfire 0x87e at altar 0x821
SACDOC 0x90c (local 0) starting sacrifice of Spitfire 0x87e at altar 0x821
WIZARD 0x86f (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x821
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x827 - sacrifice of Cog 0x87c has been started
SACDOC 0x913 (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Cog 0x87c at altar 0x827
SACDOC 0x913 (local 0) starting sacrifice of Cog 0x87c at altar 0x827
WIZARD 0x86e (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x827
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Spitfire 0x87e has been aborted or finished
NTT update: Cannot find NTT 0x87e
NET: Cannot update NTT 0x87e
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Druid 0x886 has been started
SACDOC 0x912 (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Druid 0x886 at altar 0x821
SACDOC 0x912 (local 0) starting sacrifice of Druid 0x886 at altar 0x821
WIZARD 0x86f (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x821
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x827 - sacrifice of Cog 0x87c has been aborted or finished
NTT update: Cannot find NTT 0x87c
NET: Cannot update NTT 0x87c
Altar 0x827 - sacrifice of Frostwolf 0x884 has been started
SACDOC 0x926 (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Frostwolf 0x884 at altar 0x827
SACDOC 0x926 (local 0) starting sacrifice of Frostwolf 0x884 at altar 0x827
WIZARD 0x86e (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x827
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Druid 0x886 has been aborted or finished
Altar 0x821 - sacrifice of Rhinok 0x878 has been started
SACDOC 0x8fd (local 0) requesting sacrifice of Rhinok 0x878 at altar 0x821
SACDOC 0x8fd (local 0) starting sacrifice of Rhinok 0x878 at altar 0x821
WIZARD 0x86f (local 0) starting sacrifice at altar 0x821
SUCCEEDED!

//================================================== ===
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Fault address: 00469B22 01:00068B22 SACRIFICE.EXE
Registers:
EAX:016AA360
EBX:03DE0D64
ECX:00000000
EDX:00000001
ESI:08C416B4
EDI:08C416B4
CS:EIP:016F:00469B22
SS:ESP:0177:0072FB58 EBP:07B379F4
DS:0177 ES:0177 FS:145F GS:0000
Flags:00010206

Raw Stack:
0072fb58: 08c416b4 07b379f4 0045c13e 08c416b4
0072fb78: 0072fba4 004589f0 0072fba4 08c416b4
0072fb98: 0072fba4 08c416b4 08c416d0 00000023
0072fbb8: 00000320 00000002 08c416b4 00000002
0072fbd8: c00750cd 408300ef 07b3d264 00000037
0072fbf8: 004b6f74 00000002 00000002 08c416b4
0072fc18: 00000001 08c416b4 0047187b 00000002
0072fc38: 01221db8 00000002 00451a32 00000002
SymLoadModule on "thaum.exe" failed (2)

ImageHlp Call stack:
Address Frame
00469B22 00000000 0001:00068B22 SACRIFICE.EXE

Blind stackwalk:


Intel-specific Call stack:
Address Module Function
00469B22 SACRIFICE.EXE (error 126)


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"Off with her head!" -The Queen of Hearts

Clocktower January 24th, 2001 04:39 AM

And here's a thaum.err while I'm serving...
And it happened when I tried to select bombard (James). Could it be James specific?

Current path 'C:\PROGRAM FILES\SHINY\SACRIFICE'
Sacrifice build 0521, Dec 14 2000

3D_D3D: Enumerating DirectDraw devices
3D_D3D: Found display device : display : Primary Display Driver
3D_D3D: Enumerating 3D devices for display
3D_D3D: Unusable 3D device : RGB Emulation : Microsoft Direct3D RGB Software Emulation
3D_D3D: Reason:
3D_D3D: No hardware rasterization
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware acceleration through Direct3D HAL
3D sound provider supports max 64 samples
Loading
Created player 0x23fc0c local 1 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x0
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) has baseID 0x800
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) is now the host
Cannot enumerate games while in a game
Created player 0x23fc0a local 0 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x1a
Player DTA69cents (0x23fc0a) has baseID 0x1000
Clocktower is enemy to Shahram
Clocktower is enemy to Freya
Clocktower is allied with DTA69cents
Shahram is enemy to Clocktower
Shahram is allied with Freya
Shahram is enemy to DTA69cents
Freya is enemy to Clocktower
Freya is allied with Shahram
Freya is enemy to DTA69cents
Side 3 friendly to 0x9 enemy to 0x7ffffff6
Side 0 is ally to 0x9 and enemy to 0x16
Side 1 is ally to 0x6 and enemy to 0x7ffffff9
Side 2 is ally to 0x6 and enemy to 0x7ffffff9
Side 3 is ally to 0x9 and enemy to 0x7ffffff6
Side 4 is ally to 0x10 and enemy to 0x7fffffef
Side 31 is ally to 0x80000000 and enemy to 0x0
Changing to screen mode 800x600x16bpp
Screen mode is 800x600x16bpp
Triple buffering enabled
SifNetGenericMsg NETREP__NTTPTR: Cannot find NTT 0x8df
NTT Ptr 0x8df not found in spell ardr
SIF_Create target ntt: Cannot find NTT 0x95e
SifNetGenericMsg NETREP__NTTPTR: Cannot find NTT 0xef8
NTT Ptr 0xef8 not found in spell dfir

//================================================== ===
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Fault address: 00469B22 01:00068B22 SACRIFICE.EXE
Registers:
EAX:019AF390
EBX:03CE0D64
ECX:00000000
EDX:00000008
ESI:08783768
EDI:08783768
CS:EIP:016F:00469B22
SS:ESP:0177:0072FB58 EBP:0815ADA8
DS:0177 ES:0177 FS:140F GS:0000
Flags:00210202

Raw Stack:
0072fb58: 08783768 0815ada8 0045c13e 08783768
0072fb78: 0072fba4 004589f0 0072fba4 08783768
0072fb98: 0072fba4 08783768 08783784 00000023
0072fbb8: 00000320 00000003 08783768 00000003
0072fbd8: c0ccda51 404c8ff7 41977d2c 00000048
0072fbf8: 004b6f74 00000003 00000003 08783768
0072fc18: 00000001 08783768 0047187b 00000003
0072fc38: 01221db8 00000003 00451a32 00000003
SymLoadModule on "thaum.exe" failed (2)

ImageHlp Call stack:
Address Frame
00469B22 00000000 0001:00068B22 SACRIFICE.EXE

Blind stackwalk:


Intel-specific Call stack:
Address Module Function
00469B22 SACRIFICE.EXE (error 126)


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"Off with her head!" -The Queen of Hearts

[This message has been edited by Clocktower (edited 01-24-2001).]

Clocktower January 24th, 2001 04:49 AM

And this is my friend's thaum.err from the game:

Current path 'C:\MY DOCUMENTS\GAMES\SACRIFICE'
Sacrifice build 0521, Dec 14 2000

3D_D3D: Enumerating DirectDraw devices
3D_D3D: Found display device : display : Primary Display Driver
3D_D3D: Enumerating 3D devices for display
3D_D3D: Unusable 3D device : RGB Emulation : Microsoft Direct3D RGB Software Emulation
3D_D3D: Reason:
3D_D3D: No hardware rasterization
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware acceleration through Direct3D HAL
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D T&L HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware Transform and Lighting acceleration capable device
3D sound provider supports max 64 samples
Loading
Network packet list
3D sound provider supports max 31 samples
Created player 0x23fc0a local 1 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x0
Created player 0x23fc0c local 0 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x0
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) has baseID 0x800
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) is now the host
Player DTA69cents (0x23fc0a) has baseID 0x1000
DTA69cents is allied with Clocktower
DTA69cents is enemy to Shahram
DTA69cents is enemy to Freya
Side 0 friendly to 0x9 enemy to 0x16
Side 1 friendly to 0x6 enemy to 0x7ffffff9
Side 2 friendly to 0x6 enemy to 0x7ffffff9
Side 4 friendly to 0x10 enemy to 0x7fffffef
Side 31 friendly to 0x80000000 enemy to 0x0
Side 0 is ally to 0x9 and enemy to 0x16
Side 1 is ally to 0x6 and enemy to 0x7ffffff9
Side 2 is ally to 0x6 and enemy to 0x7ffffff9
Side 3 is ally to 0x9 and enemy to 0x7ffffff6
Side 4 is ally to 0x10 and enemy to 0x7fffffef
Side 31 is ally to 0x80000000 and enemy to 0x0
Changing to screen mode 1152x864x16bpp
Screen mode is 1152x864x16bpp
NTT update: Cannot find NTT 0xba7
NET: Cannot update NTT 0xba7
SifNetGenericmsg ntt: Cannot find NTT 0xbb8
NET: Cannot use networking message for spell id 0xbb8
I'm now the host
Deleted player Clocktower (0x23fc0c ID 0x800)
Sending Endgame message for side 0x0 with value -1
Side 0x0 has lost
Created player 0x23fc0c local 0 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x102a
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) has baseID 0x800
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) is now the host
cannot change baseID from 0x800 to 0x1000 for player Clocktower
Deleted player Clocktower (0x23fc0c ID 0x800)
Created player 0x23fc0c local 0 exID 0xfffffffe createdpID 0x109c
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) has baseID 0x800
Player Clocktower (0x23fc0c) is now the host
cannot change baseID from 0x800 to 0x1000 for player Clocktower
I'm now the host
Deleted player Clocktower (0x23fc0c ID 0x800)
Sending Endgame message for side 0x3 with value -1
Side 0x3 has lost
SACDOC 0x1234 (local 1) requesting sacrifice of Rhinok 0xa9d at altar 0x827
SACDOC 0x1234 (local 1) starting sacrifice of Rhinok 0xa9d at altar 0x827
WIZARD 0x86b (local 2) starting sacrifice at altar 0x827
SUCCEEDED!
Altar 0x827 - sacrifice of Rhinok 0xa9d has been started
Network packet list
NUM(7691) (0.65) SIZE(126638) (0.72) AVSIZE( 16) NTT update list
NUM( 554) (0.05) SIZE( 15190) (0.09) AVSIZE( 27) SIF_Create
NUM( 878) (0.07) SIZE( 11189) (0.06) AVSIZE( 12) Generic spell message
NUM( 329) (0.03) SIZE( 6673) (0.04) AVSIZE( 20) Start spell
NUM( 559) (0.05) SIZE( 6149) (0.04) AVSIZE( 11) Acknowledgement
NUM( 602) (0.05) SIZE( 2408) (0.01) AVSIZE( 4) Delete NTT
NUM( 798) (0.07) SIZE( 2394) (0.01) AVSIZE( 3) Keep alive pulse
NUM( 36) (0.00) SIZE( 576) (0.00) AVSIZE( 16) Add creature
NUM( 33) (0.00) SIZE( 429) (0.00) AVSIZE( 13) Create spirit
NUM( 25) (0.00) SIZE( 300) (0.00) AVSIZE( 12) LANDFX: apply
NUM( 57) (0.00) SIZE( 285) (0.00) AVSIZE( 5) Add spirit to NTT
NUM( 39) (0.00) SIZE( 269) (0.00) AVSIZE( 6) Add experience
NUM( 53) (0.00) SIZE( 212) (0.00) AVSIZE( 4) LANDFX: replace edge
NUM( 30) (0.00) SIZE( 210) (0.00) AVSIZE( 7) Collect spirit
NUM( 12) (0.00) SIZE( 204) (0.00) AVSIZE( 17) Proc a spell
NUM( 28) (0.00) SIZE( 196) (0.00) AVSIZE( 7) Player status
NUM( 21) (0.00) SIZE( 187) (0.00) AVSIZE( 8) Damage NTT
NUM( 23) (0.00) SIZE( 184) (0.00) AVSIZE( 8) Synchronization signal
NUM( 7) (0.00) SIZE( 175) (0.00) AVSIZE( 25) Create building
NUM( 18) (0.00) SIZE( 144) (0.00) AVSIZE( 8) Teleport
NUM( 4) (0.00) SIZE( 132) (0.00) AVSIZE( 33) Chat message
NUM( 14) (0.00) SIZE( 84) (0.00) AVSIZE( 6) Guardian
NUM( 6) (0.00) SIZE( 84) (0.00) AVSIZE( 14) Sacdoctor setup
NUM( 1) (0.00) SIZE( 77) (0.00) AVSIZE( 77) Add wizard
NUM( 6) (0.00) SIZE( 67) (0.00) AVSIZE( 11) Single NTT update
NUM( 3) (0.00) SIZE( 54) (0.00) AVSIZE( 18) Max package # notify
NUM( 8) (0.00) SIZE( 48) (0.00) AVSIZE( 6) Gib
NUM( 3) (0.00) SIZE( 33) (0.00) AVSIZE( 11) Request player slot
NUM( 5) (0.00) SIZE( 30) (0.00) AVSIZE( 6) Reabsorb spirit
NUM( 4) (0.00) SIZE( 24) (0.00) AVSIZE( 6) Build on
NUM( 2) (0.00) SIZE( 20) (0.00) AVSIZE( 10) Set element ID
NUM( 1) (0.00) SIZE( 14) (0.00) AVSIZE( 14) Initialize side
NUM( 3) (0.00) SIZE( 12) (0.00) AVSIZE( 4) Destroy building
NUM( 1) (0.00) SIZE( 11) (0.00) AVSIZE( 11) Sacrifice
NUM( 1) (0.00) SIZE( 10) (0.00) AVSIZE( 10) Resend packet
NUM( 2) (0.00) SIZE( 6) (0.00) AVSIZE( 3) End game
NUM( 1) (0.00) SIZE( 6) (0.00) AVSIZE( 6) First package ID #
Altar 0x827 - sacrifice of Rhinok 0xa9d has been aborted or finished
Changing to screen mode 640x480x16bpp
Screen mode is 640x480x16bpp
Entered game mode 0
Entered exit code
Normal exit


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"Off with her head!" -The Queen of Hearts

IP_CSJK January 24th, 2001 11:39 AM

You might want to try reinstalling the game. First, go into Control Panel, System, Performance, File System, CDROM, and set the Access Pattern to No Read Ahead. Press OK. Click Device Manager, double click on CDROM, then open the properties window for your cdrom drive, and click Settings. Make sure DMA is unchecked, then press OK and Close.

Also, click Start, Run, and type in msconfig, click on the Startup tab, and uncheck everything except for System Tray, and press OK and restart.
Now Reinstall.

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James Kompare
Interplay Technical Support
support@interplay.com

Retroguy January 24th, 2001 04:43 PM

I tried reinstalling after following all of those instructions, but with absolutely no effect. What do I try now?? Are you guys working on a patch for this problem?

Retroguy.


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