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IP-CSBH November 29th, 2000 11:04 AM

Where to get latest drivers:
 

Most problems with this game (and just about any other game, for that matter) are solved with getting the latest drivers for your hardware. There are some exceptions, like the Voodoo3 3500, but those are by far outnumbered by the numbers of cards that usually just required the latest drivers. Keep in mind that some cardsare just repackaged version of the original chip-maker's reference design. For instance, the Diamond Monster 3d 2 is a Voodoo2, and in this case you will usually want to get the latest drivers for the Voodoo2 (rather than Diamond's). Here is a list of common hardware manufacturers and their websites:

3dfx makes the Voodoo series of cards.
http://www.3dfxgamers.com/drivers/latest_drivers.stm

Creative makes the SoundBlaster line of sound cards:
http://www.creative.com/support/files/download.asp

Nvidia makes the TNT, TNT2, and Geforce line of cards. MANY companies use Nvidia chips, and if you are having problems with that's company's drivers, try Nvidia's reference drivers:
http://www.nvidia.com/products.nsf/h...etonator3.html

Aureal makes the Vortex series of sound chips, used by many popular vendors. While Aureal is no longer in buisness, you can still get drivers from:
http://www.vortexofsound.com

ATI makes a very wide range of video cards. Their driver page is at:
http://support.ati.com/drivers/drivers.html

S3 supplied chips for many different cards, and also aquired Diamond, who was a large card manufacturer. If you have a Diamond Viper II or Stealth III S540, you can get drivers at:
http://www.s3.com/default.asp?menu=s...ubmenu=drivers

If you are not sure who makes your particular sound card or video card, post the device names (from dxdiag) here and I'll help you get the proper drivers.


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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris November 29th, 2000 11:24 AM

Are there any plans to get the game working with a Voodoo 3500? Have you been breathing down 3dfx's neck about this card? It makes me very sad that I can't play with my proper drivers, and i cannot use the new 1.07 (666 drivers), and the 1.05 drivers aren't exactly made for my hardware.

thanks!

IP-CSBH November 29th, 2000 12:56 PM


I'm going to get in touch with 3dfx and see if they have any insight into these problems. Can you list what type of motherboard, processor, and RAM you have?

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris November 29th, 2000 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IP-CSBH:

I'm going to get in touch with 3dfx and see if they have any insight into these problems. Can you list what type of motherboard, processor, and RAM you have?


Sure, I've got:
Asus P2B motherboard (100MHz FSB)
320 megs of PC100 RAM
3dfx Voodoo 3500TV
SoundBlaster Live! Value

Here is a post I left earlier explaining my situation with drivers:
http://www.veforums.com/Forum25/HTML/000168.html

Thank you for your help! If you have any questions feel free to ICQ me (my number is in the profile) or write me at spriseris@hotmail.com (i'll give you my real email address from my ISP if you write me there first, i just don't want some spammer picking my real address up)

Thanks again!

IP-CSBH November 29th, 2000 02:28 PM

Ok, I'll pass that information along. In the meantime, you may wish to try a BIOS update from Asus. They have an update for the P2B that fixes some AGP problems. I would only recommend this if you are fairly comfortable with your hardware and know a little bit about basic DOS commands.

http://www.asus.com.tw/products/moth...ios_slot1.html

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris November 29th, 2000 03:07 PM

I was wrong about my previous bios version, i am indeed already running 1012. i was at work when i posted that last message.

i am very comfortable with DOS and all my hardware. =)

Spriseris November 29th, 2000 08:09 PM

If you could, please let me know if 3dfx says anything about the voodoo 3500 drivers. i'm dying to get back to my drivers and be able to enable fog and run proper drivers for my card to play the game. as it stands now the game is incompatible with my video card and any driver version built for the 3500.
thank you.

Spriseris November 30th, 2000 08:39 AM

Just wanted to make sure this didn't get passed up
(bump)
Thanks for your help, Brock.

IP-CSBH November 30th, 2000 08:42 AM

No problem, I'm still on it. These things usually take a couple of days. If I understood your previous post correctly, you are able to play the game with a certain set of Voodoo3-3000 drivers, but you loose some of the functionality of your card, correct?

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris November 30th, 2000 01:03 PM

That's exactly correct. I can play using the Voodoo 3 (2000/3000) 1.05.00 drivers on my 3500 card. The new Voodoo 3 1.07.00 drivers do not work with my card. Any drivers written for my card will not work with Sacrifice (1.04.02, or any of the beta kits).

Spriseris November 30th, 2000 07:57 PM

Perhaps this is also motherboard related?
I cross-reference this post: http://www.veforums.com/Forum25/HTML/000443.html

Zargar December 1st, 2000 05:38 AM

I have problems... The ground a bit away from me doesnt show. Instead the sky shows there. I have a voodoo Banshee 3dFx card and im using the latest driver. DirectX8. Know what i should do?

Spriseris December 1st, 2000 12:02 PM

The 1.07.00 drivers do *NOT* work on my Voodoo 3500.

The troubleshooting faq was updated today to tell me to upgrade to those drivers. I run them, and it doesn't work. Please tell MissM that she needs to specify 1.05.00 for the 3500.

IP-CSBH December 1st, 2000 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zargar:
I have problems... The ground a bit away from me doesnt show. Instead the sky shows there. I have a voodoo Banshee 3dFx card and im using the latest driver. DirectX8. Know what i should do?
You'll want to do 3 things (try the game after each):
1. Get the latest Banshee drivers from http://www.3dfxgamers.com/drivers/latest_drivers.stm

2. Set your desktop to 16bit color.

3. Disable AGP supporton that video card.

If you still have problems with the game after that, click start, go to run, and type dxdiag. Once that window pops up, write down your direct X version, and click on the display tab and write down the driver version, approximate total memory, and device name. Finally, click on the sound tab and write down the dvice name and driver version there. Post all that information and we'll work on your problem from there.



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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

IP-CSBH December 1st, 2000 03:31 PM

There are updated drivers available for the Voodoo3 - 3500. They are label "Release Candidate 1", which probably means semi-beta.

Windows 98/ME:
http://www.yamahayst.com/lsi/support/downloads.htm

Windows 2000:
http://www.3dfxgamers.com/view.asp?IOID=2461

(fingers crossed)


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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris December 1st, 2000 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IP-CSBH:
There are updated drivers available for the Voodoo3 - 3500. They are label "Release Candidate 1", which probably means semi-beta.

Windows 98/ME:
http://www.yamahayst.com/lsi/support/downloads.htm

Windows 2000:
http://www.3dfxgamers.com/view.asp?IOID=2461

(fingers crossed)



I will download these ASAP and post my results!

Spriseris December 2nd, 2000 12:41 AM

I downloaded the new "RC1" voodoo 3500 TV drivers.. completely uninstalled all traces of the old voodoo 3 drivers (including "3dfx tools") and installed this package.

I could enable fogging (which had to be turned off with the 1.05 voodoo 2000/3000 drivers), but i had to disable triangle strips to avoid missing limbs (which i didn't have to do using the 2000/3000 drivers).

but.. alas, no lifebars/spell timers.

There is yet to be a version of the Voodoo 3500 drivers that work with Sacrifice. The game is theoretically incompatible with the 3500 unless i run drivers that are not made for my card.

<img src=http://home.tampabay.rr.com/spriseris/images/rc1.jpg>

Spriseris December 2nd, 2000 12:55 AM

Also, if you'd like to see my DXDIAG report with these new RC1 drivers installed, here's the link:
http://65.32.1.161/spriseris/dxdiag-rc1.txt

I thought the driver date was strange until i read the readme... http://www.3dfxgamers.com/view.asp?IOID=2501
item #3: Latest Voodoo3 driver 1.06.00

So it's basically just the Voodoo 2000/3000 1.06.00 driver in a 3500TV driver package.

The only 2000/3000 driver that works with Sacrifice on a 3500 card is 1.05.00

Spriseris December 2nd, 2000 09:06 AM

bump

IP-CSBH@Home December 2nd, 2000 04:16 PM

Well, when I left the office on Friday, I still had not heard from 3dfx. I'll try and contact them again when I get in on Monday.

Spriseris December 2nd, 2000 06:06 PM

Thanks! I also posted a "bug report form" response to their webpage earlier this evening describing all 4 driver packages for the 3500 card, none of which work for Sacrifice.

Apache[VE] December 4th, 2000 12:04 AM

test

Apache[VE] December 4th, 2000 12:35 AM

test x2

matt laws December 4th, 2000 06:08 AM

Help ! - I have a yamaha sw1000xg sound card, and my sacrifice game's sound (all music and sound effects & speech) is garbled constantly (a distorted stutter) - is this a known issue?

BrimstoneX December 4th, 2000 06:39 AM

A post about the 3dfx voodoo Banshee card, said to disable AGP-support. What exactly is that, and where can I disable it?

Brimstone

Spriseris December 4th, 2000 06:43 AM

dxdiag.
display tab.

Zargar December 4th, 2000 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IP-CSBH:
You'll want to do 3 things (try the game after each):
1. Get the latest Banshee drivers from http://www.3dfxgamers.com/drivers/latest_drivers.stm

2. Set your desktop to 16bit color.

3. Disable AGP supporton that video card.

If you still have problems with the game after that, click start, go to run, and type dxdiag. Once that window pops up, write down your direct X version, and click on the display tab and write down the driver version, approximate total memory, and device name. Finally, click on the sound tab and write down the dvice name and driver version there. Post all that information and we'll work on your problem from there.



Those things are already said as you say...
Here goes:
DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
Display:
Device name: 3D Blaster Banshee PCI/AGP
//its PCI
Driver: 3dbbw9x.drv
Aprox Memory: 15Mb
Sound:
Device name: DirectSound (SB Live! Wave Out [A000])
Driver Version: EMU10K1.VXD

Another thing.. Its not Sacrifice related, but since i got a new comp but with same monitor, video card and sound card i havent been able to chose higher than 800x600 resolution. Do you know why?
Thaks for the help.

Spriseris December 4th, 2000 02:42 PM

Any word from 3dfx about the drivers and all my previous posts?

=(

Thanks

BrimstoneX December 5th, 2000 07:37 AM

About the Voodoo Banshee card, the 800x600 problem.

Make sure you have installed the 3Deep and Colorific program.
That solved the problem on my computer.

Brimstone.

IP-CSBH December 5th, 2000 08:40 AM

I'm sorry I wasn't in yesterday, guys. I still haven't heard from 3dfx, so I'll try them again today.

Matt Laws:
Is that a studio card? Yamaha only makes 2 PC sound cards (that I know of) for gaming use. The ISA OPL3-SAx, and the DS-XG. You can get drivers for either one of those at http://www.yamahayst.com/lsi/support/downloads.htm
If you have a studio card, designed for recording, you might have problems getting a DX7 certified driver for the card. I wasn't able to find the sw1000xg listed on their page.

Zargar:
Looks like you forgot to post the version numbers for your sound and video cards. Those drivers have version numbers that are independent of direct X, so I'll need to know those as well to help narrow down what the problem is.


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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris December 5th, 2000 10:38 AM

I was told to write shiny support in this post: http://www.veforums.com/Forum25/HTML/000507.html

Should i really do that?
Thanks!

IP-CSBH December 5th, 2000 11:22 AM

Definately. They have a much more thorough understanding of the game than I do. They are probably more likely to get information/new drivers out of 3dfx.

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

batbird December 5th, 2000 11:31 AM

This is from instructions on installing new banshee drivers :

Extract the files for the Voodoo Banshee driver to a directory.
Click Start, Control Panel. Double-click on Display.
Click the Settings tab then click:
Windows 98 users: Click "Advanced Properties"


Then under "Change Display Type/Advanced Display" click "Change"
Click "Have Disk" and enter the path specified in Step 2 plus:
Windows 98 users: the Win98 directory.

Now the last section above sounds quite confusing!!!

Any ideas??

I have tried above and it says it cannot find cleanbin.exe or cleanbn.exe and I cannot install the driver.
So reverted back to old 1157 driver.

Umm very strange.

Zargar December 5th, 2000 11:33 AM

Oops youre right
Display version: 4.10.01.0106(english)


Sound version: 4.11.01.0711(english)


hope that helps

IP-CSBH December 5th, 2000 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by batbird:
This is from instructions on installing new banshee drivers :

Then under "Change Display Type/Advanced Display" click "Change"
Click "Have Disk" and enter the path specified in Step 2 plus:
Windows 98 users: the Win98 directory.

Now the last section above sounds quite confusing!!!

Umm very strange.

The path is just the folder where you have unzipped the driver files that you DLed from 3DFX. When you tell it to update the drivers, you have to tell it which folder the updated drivers are in. So, for instance, if you download the files onto your desktop, and unzip them into a folder called "banshee", you would give it the path "C:\windows\desktop\banshee". Just make sure you update it with the proper files. For step-by-step help, you might want to call 3dfx. We don't have any machines running banshees here in CS, so I can't give you step-by-step dirs.



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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris December 5th, 2000 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IP-CSBH:
Definately. They have a much more thorough understanding of the game than I do. They are probably more likely to get information/new drivers out of 3dfx.


Well I thank you for all your help! Are you going to continue helping me and berating 3dfx, or should this be back in Shiny's hands? I'm just wondering who's responsible for all this. Thanks again!

Spriseris December 5th, 2000 09:11 PM

bump
..Just curious as to who I should be working with to help solve my problems..

Thanks

IP-CSBH December 6th, 2000 09:01 AM

I'm going to try to talk to somebody at 3dfx again today. For the time being, email that info to Shiny, so they have it on record.

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris December 6th, 2000 11:00 AM

Will do. I'll make sure to send an email when I get home tonight. I'll reference my posts here, and reiterate what I've explained in the posts.

Thank you, Brock!

Spriseris December 7th, 2000 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IP-CSBH:
I'm going to try to talk to somebody at 3dfx again today. For the time being, email that info to Shiny, so they have it on record.


Once you hear something (anything) from them, please let me know!
Thanks

GeForce Guy December 7th, 2000 01:50 PM

Hi, can u post a site where i can get some GeForce2 Updates and patches??

Have some probs

IP-CSBH December 7th, 2000 02:17 PM

Well, If you have a Geforce card, you would go to Nvidia's website. That's at http://www.nvidia.com

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris December 8th, 2000 12:59 AM

I take it 3dfx isn't being cooperative?

GeForce December 8th, 2000 03:41 AM

I have the newst driver!

but suddenly my game freezes about 2 min after i started and i have to rebot!!

any suggests??

IP-CSBH December 8th, 2000 09:45 AM

Please start a new thread with your dxdiag info and we'll see what we can do.

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

IP-CSBH December 8th, 2000 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spriseris:
I take it 3dfx isn't being cooperative?
I still haven't gotten word back from 3dfx. If you'd like to explore other options, email me and we'll see what we can do.



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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris December 12th, 2000 10:17 AM

As you can see, I'm delaying doing anything.. Giving 3dfx time to do something.

-sigh-

I really like Sacrifice, but i'm taking major performance hits on all my other accelerated games by using these inappropriate drivers.

Zargar December 12th, 2000 02:25 PM

IP-CSBH
Any news on the Banshee card? I posted all the things in this thread, as you said, but you didnt reply to it...

IP-CSBH December 12th, 2000 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zargar:
IP-CSBH
Any news on the Banshee card? I posted all the things in this thread, as you said, but you didnt reply to it...

The driver that you listed, "Creative Blaster Banshee", usually doesn't work as well as the reference driver from 3dfx. I'd recommend getting that driver, and then running the game with mip-mapping, fogging, and triangle strips disabled.



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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

Spriseris December 17th, 2000 02:22 PM

Hey, this could all be solved soon. 3dfx sold out to Nvidia. Maybe they'll get some real programmers on the task, although i highly doubt it. It's more likely they're working some sort of fusion between the technologies of both the chipsets.

$112 million, of which $70 million was cash.
i probably would have sold out too.


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