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Old November 29th, 2000   #1
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Default my biggest pet peeve has been reproduced in Sacrifice.. grr (mana)

I just downloaded the demo for Sacrifice after hearing all the hype, and I can see what the fuss is about. It looks fantastic and gameplay is engrossing. I'm still thinking about buying the game for now.

Unfortunately for Shiny their voice actors had to go and butcher the pronunciation of mana. Man that's annoying. Every few seconds in the tutorial, zyzyx would go on about how I need a manalith or manahoars, grating my ears like fingernails on a blackboard. Now during the game, I can look forward to my hero saying she's out of "manna." What? You need bread? whatever.

I guess it's a pretty minor flaw in what looks like an awesome game but it's also my #1 pet peeve which makes it tough to overlook. I've played a lot of games that use mana as a resource (especially M:TG), but the only people that mispronounced it before were casual gamers, not professionals.

Sigh.

I guess it's that time where you agree/flame/whatever, go for it. thanks for listening

rs

(PS: interestingly enough the spellchecker doesn't even think mana is a real word. Head over to www.m-w.com and check out the difference between mana and manna if you're bored.)

(PPS: If you're from Shiny, please for the love of God look into patching the sound bytes with the correct pronunciation. thank you, that is all.)
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Ah well, if the word mana is your biggest gripe with this game...i guess that's a good sign? hehehe, I have heard a few wierd pronounciations in this game, but I have a couple english friends (I live in the states) so it doesn't bother me. I love hearing them say metamorphosis, they accent the second to last syllable. I suppose they must have the correct pronouciation though, the language is named after their country, hehehe.
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okay -
so I looked up both words...

for those who care, 'mana' is a polynesian word referring to the power of the elemental forces of nature embodied in an object or person and 'manna' is divinely supplied spiritual nourishment... I suppose that means the difference is really based on monothesitic or polytheistic beliefs and, considering the nature of the game, I think Shiny got it right...

rathstar, do you really get that hung up over short and long vowels? I mean, like, gag me with a schwa...

oh, and don't ever travel to France...
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hehe well, I don't know, it's not like I jump all over everybody's case for mispronouncing any random word, just "mana" in particular. Sounds even more ridiculous now I bet! But since I started playing M:TG about six years ago, about half of the 9999+ people I've played talk about tapping for "manna" and I guess it has eventually seeped into my mind and driven me crazy...

As far as the ties of the words "mana" and "manna" to religious concepts... well, the only place I've heard "manna" is in the Bible, and the only place I've heard "mana" is in Polynesian polytheistic religion, so that would imply that Sacrifice uses mana..? hmm, at least everyone's learning something here (except the "get a life" guy)

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Yeah. Maori pronounce it mana and it means power.

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Let everyone see your weapons
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Marching down the road
Holding its guns up
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I had to look that one up, but it appears you're right. Although since zyxxyzxxyzzyx has that British accent, it almost sounds like it's pronounced correctly.
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captains log, stardate: 231302.2.a

must get out more often =)
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I'm curious.... you whine about the pronounciation of "Mana"....

what about all the words that make up the spells themselves? Most of them aren't even real words! Oh dear Persephone, what should we do about that?
Go look them up dude.... In fact, try to look up the words "Carpe Diem" which are part of the spell words... can't find a true pronounciation for that one either, since latin is no longer a spoken language, so all pronounciation is guesstimates at best.

So my take on this is that "Mana" is pronounced EXACTLY right.. I doubt very much that Shiny wanted to go for realism... if they did, they failed miserably... unless off course the original poster exists in a realm similar to that of Sacrifice.... in which case, you should NOT get out more.

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