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Sailor Pluto May 9th, 2000 10:25 AM

My computer:
CPU: P3 450MHZ
RAM: 128MB
HD: 13GB
VIDEO: Riva TNT 16MB :-P
SOUND: Aureal 3D (Turtle Beach Montego 2)
OS: Dual WinNT 4/Win 98(first ed)
MONITOR: 19" Dell Trinitron
MOUSE: Microsoft Intellimouse
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):

Friend's Computer
CPU: AMD K6 2 333MHZ
RAM: 64MB
HD: 8GB+4GB
VIDEO: Voodoo 3000 (agp i think)
SOUND: Sound Blaster (dunno model)
OS: Win98(1st ed)
MONITOR: 17" (crappy old monitor)
MOUSE: Microsoft 2 button ps/2 mouse
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):

A computer i wish would run games :-P
have fun making jokes about this..
CPU: P1 166MHZ w/MMX
RAM: 48MB
HD: 2GB
VIDEO: Neomagic 128 (laptop display... blast away)
SOUND: ~(has it... i'll just guess an old 16bit 4 channel sound card)
OS: Win95/NT4/Linux (redhat 6.2)
MONITOR: 9"
MOUSE: PS/2 pop-out mini-mouse (gotta see to believe)

Dan[importedFF] May 14th, 2000 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by poopsie:
OK folks, let's see those hardware configurations. http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

CPU: Dual Intel Celeron 300A oc'd 464 (103MHz bus)
RAM: 256MB HSDRAM
HD: FastTrak66 RAID-0 2xIBM 13.GB 7200RPM 2MB
VIDEO: Voodoo3 3000
SOUND: AWE32
OS: Win2000
MONITOR: 17" Hansol Mazellan 701P
MOUSE: Logitech TrackMan
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):
UPS, Cable, Subwoofer, ZIP, and much more http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

Thanks,
-joby


poopsie May 14th, 2000 04:07 PM

This is from FarSide928 who says the forum crashed his machine when he tried to post this himself. http://forums.voodooextreme.com/frown.gif

Thanks again to everyone.

CPU: Pentium III 500
RAM: 256mb DIMM
HD: 15gb
VIDEO: TNT 16meg
SOUND: Sound Blaster Live, Platinum
OS: Win98 OEM
MONITOR:19" Dell
MOUSE: Logitech Mouseman
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention): Hoping to add the new RIVA TNT2
card in the next few weeks. I have a 24x4x4 cdrw and a 5xDVDROM.
Also, I'm having my cable modem installed tommorow.

CPU: AMD K2 450 overclocked at 500 on a commate motherboard
RAM: 96 DIMM
HD: 17 Gb
VIDEO: ATI XPERT 32mg
SOUND: SB Live
OS: Win98 2nd
MONITOR: 15" Packard Bell
MOUSE: Logitech
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention): Has a 48x cdrom and is connected
to a network.

Volff May 15th, 2000 01:47 PM

CPU: Intel PII 350
RAM: 128 SDRAM
HD: 8.6 Gb Seagate
VIDEO: Voodoo 3
SOUND: Sb Live
OS: Win 98 SE
MONITOR: 15" Optiquest
MOUSE: Logitech

poopsie May 15th, 2000 02:50 PM

Just a word to you absolute hardware junkies out there: I recently picked up a Toshiba notebook (techra 8100) with the new s3 savage mx w/8mb vram. This machine runs Sacrifice great! Some features don't work, but what's there can run at 30FPS at 1024x768 (on a freakin' notebook!). The screen is beautiful. Much better than my Dell 7000.

Those of you with slower machines: don't worry, we're not tailoring the game for my notebook http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif . I just thought I'd mention this news for anyone in the market for a notebook that can run next-gen games well.

Also, it only weighs about 5.5 lbs (w/battery). I got the one with the 650mhz speedstep proc. Set to 500 (neat option), it still runs just fine.

Killer machine! http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

I can't wait to see what Nvidia's NV11 mobile geforce chip can do. This S3 chip doesn't even have hw T&L and it still kicks butt.

-joby

[This message has been edited by poopsie (edited 05-15-2000).]

Luigi Grimaldi May 15th, 2000 04:38 PM

I have 2 computers.
The first:
Processor:celeron 333
Ram:132mb
HD:17mb
video:RAGE IIC AGP
sound:Unknown
os: Win 98
monitor:Keir (all i know)
mouse:Logitech (all i know)(3 button)
Whatever:Lan connected between the two
the second:
Processor:celeron 333
Ram:132mb
HD:17mb
video:RAGE IIC AGP
sound:Unknown
os: Win 98
monitor:Acer(all i know)
mouse:zoltrix (all i know)(2 button)
Whatever:Lan connected between the two

I just wish to know if i could run sacrifice on them (one or both).

poopsie May 15th, 2000 05:01 PM

Hmmmm, not familiar with the RageIIc. I'll have to look into it. Maybe Martin or Dan know. Anyone else know?

Was the IIc before the Rage Pro or after?

Thanks,
-joby

Danziger May 16th, 2000 09:32 AM

What ATI says....

http://www.ati.com/na/pages/technolo...e/rageiic.html

What some users say about it....

http://sysopt.earthweb.com/userrevie..._Rage_IIC.html

My opinion... don't have one. But from what I see... I *think* it's suppose to be the "Celeron" of Rage cards. Meaning, this card what created out of value more than technology.

As Poopsie says... anybody?

Danziger :^)

Luigi Grimaldi May 18th, 2000 03:08 PM

the IIC (it was actualy two strait lines I could not properly prodice on the forum) was after the rage part. I know that it has the power of a low 3d accelerator. I was told this by my brother and I have played some demos that need 3d accelerators.

Luigi Grimaldi May 21st, 2000 08:00 PM

The reason i asked was to see if it is worth saving my money for sacrifice. And i can't just get a new 3d card cuss the computers are technicly my dads. (I'm two yong to move out)

poopsie May 21st, 2000 09:10 PM

All I can tell you is that I have a p2 300 notebook with a rage pro lt 8mb mobile chip. This was a decent chip in its day, but it really isn't suitable for anything beyond Quake 1. It will run Sacrifice, badly and without fogging (doesn't look as nice without fogging). From what I can tell its mostly the fillrate that is killing this chip. Hopefully the IIc has better fillrate.

We will be going into QA soon. We will probably have more to say about other chipsets soon (hopefully, including the IIc).

-joby

[This message has been edited by poopsie (edited 05-21-2000).]

Mantic May 22nd, 2000 08:38 PM

CPU: Celeron 333 (not overclocked)
RAM: 64MB
HD: 10GB and 4GB, much partitioning, using fat32 compressed drives for games typically
VIDEO: ATI Rage Pro 4MB (agp)
SOUND: SB64
OS: Win98
MONITOR: EV700 17" max res 1280x1024x24bpp/1024x768x32bpp
MOUSE: MS Intellimouse

ETC: DX7, runs great under D3D but barely gets off the ground with GL. Upgrades pending.

gestalt May 23rd, 2000 12:02 PM

That´s mine
CPU: K6-3/400@475
RAM: 128MB
Video: Elsa Erazor 2@115/125Mhz and
Vodoo 3 2000 PCI@155Mhz
HDD: 10GB IBM + 20GB Maxtor
Sound: SB Live! Value
OS: Win2k and Win98SE (also SUSE Linux 6.3)
Monitor: CTX 19"
Mous: crappy noname mouse
Other: 8x DVD, JBL ESC 300 Sound System, 2MBit Internet connection, 10Mbit NIC, 3,5" Floppy http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif


[This message has been edited by gestalt (edited 05-23-2000).]

Hobbes1715 May 24th, 2000 04:53 PM

Well im trying to get into this forum thing so here it goes:

Pentium 3 800
128mb of sd pc 100 ram
geforce 256 32mb
DVD drive
cd-rw drive
Sound blaster live

Well there is is, Im upgrading to a geforce 2 now that I know sacrifice if optimized for one.


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Chris Guess

JohnyFire May 26th, 2000 12:23 AM

i have a rageiic 4mb agp vidio card, and for the guy who has that vidio card im sorry if your offended from what im about to say

The rageicc sucks ass or it could be the 4mb of ram but i have a feeling its the chipset. there was no opengl for it in quake2 it did have some sort of opengl for quake1 but i dont have q1 to try it on.

This is just my opinion wich is probably wrong but at least i think its right

Hobbes1715 May 26th, 2000 05:37 AM

I think my next upgrade will be the Geforce2.I will prolly get that one before Sacrifice ships and then I might upgrade to a 1ghz processer or higher to really get the most out of it. Thanks guys and poopsie!!!

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Chris Guess

ZePHyR[importedFF] May 26th, 2000 02:12 PM

Well compared to almost everyone else on this board, my computer just sucks total nuts. Ok, well here goes.

CPU: Pentium II 266mhz
RAM: 64megs
HD: 4 gigs
VIDEO: (Old piece of crap OEM card)ATI Mach 64, 4meg ram http://forums.voodooextreme.com/frown.gif
SOUND: Not sure.. some kinda standard Compaq card. like 32bit...possibly 16, whatever it is. It sucks
OS: Windows 98
MONITOR: Compaq 1525 15"
MOUSE: Standard 2 button Compaq mouse
WHATEVER: My computer is a piece of sh*t ! http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif
But that's one of the things I loved with the whole Messiah/Sacrifice engine as it was originally promised. Originally Dave Perry promised that almost any system could play these games due to the scalability of the engine. Originally you could do it through software only...but....I guess something just went wrong somewhere. And now I can't even play Messiah http://forums.voodooextreme.com/frown.gif, when I first heard of the game I thought of my computer as pretty good, not top of the line, but decent enough. Now you have to have like at least a Pentium III and some sort of Voodoo card to run it. It sucks! No offense. I love Shiny and all...you have been my favorite game developer ever the Earthworm Jim days...but damn it. I hate that you have to have such a powerful computer to even attempt to play games. It's just not worth it! I don't have money growing out my ass like most of these people on this board do obviously, so I can't afford some Gigahtz Processor with a GeForce3 when this game comes out!
This is one reason I hope you seriously consider porting to Dreamcast. As I had stated in a previous post...the system is perfect for this game. It's got a built-in modem and a mouse coming out soon... I want this game so bad...but can't afford $1000 to upgrade my computer. This is all I've got.
Thanx for your time...

-ZePHyR
http://filenotfound.havengames.net

[This message has been edited by ZePHyR (edited 05-26-2000).]

poopsie May 26th, 2000 03:31 PM

I understand your frustration. Believe me its VERY frustrating for us too. The PC market is segmented worse than my hardrive. http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

Today's developers have to do a lot more to make sure the games cover the enormous gap from lowest end to highest end machines that are actually in use for the given type of game.

For a brief period of time Windows made things easier because it was handling certain driver issues that game devs used to have to write into their own code. Now the expanded hardware possibilities have lead to a much greater chasm.

Unfortunately, even with the most scaleable engines out there, there is only so far you can go. Even if our engine could scale to 0 polys there's a lot of stuff to calculate outside of the renderer (AI, pathing, collision ...). There's not much that can be scaled in that part of the code without risking folks on low end machines playing an essentially different game.

The situation is made much worse by the fact that sooo many developers see fit to release amazing looking screenshots of games that will be at least 2 years away. These games are then presented as coming soon and rabid gamers everywhere hold everything that really is coming soon to those products for comparison. We (Shiny) have been guilty of the this too. Its not that devs do it on purpose, we just have a _very_ difficult job that is one part science one part art and all too hard to predict. We have to make experiences that are fun to play and dress them up so richly that they stand up to the highest expectations just to get noticed. Its a lot of fun, but really distressing too because we see how much it hurts the gamers. I think we'll be much closer to the mark with Sacrifice in terms of releasing soon after we've started the hype.

We are working on solutions, but I don't think the problem disappear unless the PC market changes dramatically. For instance: Software rendering had to go away so that we could develop just one set of graphics that took advantage of the subset of cards with texture filtering, alpha modes and on and on. What kinds of things will tomorrow's games have to ditch so that they can fully and efficiently take advantage of T&L, T-buffer and the next big thing? The more we try to use the new tricks the harder it is to use the old tricks too. The same textures that work with bump mapping don't necesarily work without it. Ugg, its just a nasty, nasty problem.

That's my rant for today, sorry. http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

-joby

ZePHyR[importedFF] May 26th, 2000 06:12 PM

It's ok, actually. I was just blowing off a little steam myself. I totally understand the problems you have (well, mostly). I just wish there could be one unified standard myself. Like VCR's and such you know? There aren't 7 different types of VCR's and 7 different types of tapes. There's only one. And makes things so much easier that way. Sure, VCR's are old and are going to be soon outdated but with another new Standard platform not 5 or 6. If only people could design some kind of system like that with computers. I know this is just great in theory. People would probably get like a big monopoly going and all, but in a perfect world it sure would be great. Hopefully though, if all games learned from what Shiny has accomplished with your scalable engine someday everyone would have the opportunity to play the same game. Maybe by the time I'm out there workin' with ya (if I'm lucky) things will be a little closer to that dream. I know I can't be the only one with it. Thanx, and I really do appreciate all the hard work you do. As an artist myself I know how hard it is to create something impressive all the time. It takes so much frickin' creativity to come up with fresh and new stuff; like you all are doing there with this game. Good Luck! http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

-ZePHyR
http://filenotfound.havengames.net

cyanide64 May 27th, 2000 04:18 PM

PII 450
64mb ram
6.4 gig HD
(asus) riva TNT 2
soundblaster awe 64 (and another crap card)
Windows 98
logitech mouse
32x cd rom

Zpeed18 May 27th, 2000 06:51 PM

Hi everybody, my first post. Though i have been following the board for a while.

CPU: Pentium III 533
RAM: 128
HD: 15 GB
VIDEO: Geforce 32 DDR
SOUND: Got no idea. Its 128 bits.
OS: Win 98
MONITOR: HP 19'
MOUSE: Logitech usb
WHATEVER: dvd, cd writer, and a rather beefy
sound system.;)

The games looking great,
the graphics looks even more
impressive that Black & White.
If the gameplay is of equal quality,
this game is going to rock.

Jim Star May 28th, 2000 03:43 AM

Black and white looks GREAT!!!
But Sacrifice will rule the WORLD for the next 10 years!!!!!!! http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

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Jim Star
Messiah-Québec
http://pages.infinit.net/jimstar
http://pages.infinit.net/jimstar/sacrifice.htm

[This message has been edited by Jim Star (edited 05-28-2000).]

The Leveler May 30th, 2000 07:20 AM

Hmm, not sure if I have done this here before, but it wont hurt again.

Athlon 650
256MB RAM
27.3 GB 7200 MAxtor
19" Monitor
Voodoo3

I am still contemplating on what video card to get, a Gforce2 or voodoo5.....

hmmmm....

well anyway, I am making my way to Shiny today, so I'll ask the guys up there what they think :-)

Rudy

Danziger May 30th, 2000 09:08 AM

Poopsie... defrag.

Danziger :^)

Necryl June 8th, 2000 08:54 AM

Ok, I know that this is a bit late (ok, a lot) but here it is n e way:

CPU: 300mhz AMD k6-2

RAM: 32mb SDRAM

HD: 2gb

Video: 3D Voodoo Banshee

Sound: Standard 16mb something

OS: Windows 98

Monitor: Some cheap but good 17#

Mouse: A4 Tech WinEasy WWW-5 w/ hori/verti
scroll

CD: 8x
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I know that this is one hell of a suck machine but in thinking of upgrading some of it (i know it all needs a huge fixup but with 130 kr per month and stuff costs 500kr min. it will take a while http://forums.voodooextreme.com/frown.gif ) Can it run at this piece of s*it joby? And if (when) not then how much more will i need?

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please visit my homepage and tell me what you think!

http://www.SacrificeFAN.homestead.com

icq me: 75456586

poopsie June 8th, 2000 09:20 AM

You could run Sacrifice if you upgraded to 64mb ram (our min). Though I can't speak for what the performance will be when Martin has had a chance to optimize, it will not likely run smoothly enough to satisfy on that machine. The k6 300s were generally slower for games than a 300mhz p2 and we care very CPU bound.

Thanks Necryl,
-joby

dominatrix[imported] June 8th, 2000 05:10 PM

CPU: pIII 500mhz
RAM: 128mb
HD: 13gb
VIDEO: voodoo3 2000
SOUND: mx300
OS: win98
MONITOR: 21"
MOUSE: logitech wheel

more ram and a geforce2 in my near future

Shivoa June 28th, 2000 08:45 AM

CPU: P-III Cu 803MHz (@146MHz FSB & 803MHz L2 cache)
RAM: 256MB HSDRAM (@146MHz [3:2:2])
HD: 20GB 7200rpm + 10GB 5400rpm [possibly upgrading soon replacing the 5400 with a 7200/30-50GB]
VIDEO: GF2 GTS with 64MB onboard (235MHz processor/275MHz ram w.heatsinks)
SOUND: SB live 1024
OS: Win98 (the nice first edition)
MONITOR: Dell 19"
MOUSE: Intellimouse Explorer
WHATEVER: I get 15,000 poly models in Messiah (at the begining bit, FSAA off, 1152x864x32) and a 3Dmark2000 of aprox 6300.

This is a top spec machine, no? and all (excluding monitor) for under £1200($1700).



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-Shivoa
http://www.sacrifice.org.uk/
http://www.smgskins.org.uk/
http:/www.TRt.org.uk/

poopsie June 28th, 2000 09:28 AM

Can I have it?

http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

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If you don't wash it it will itch.

anti-dosi July 5th, 2000 01:38 AM

CPU:PUNTIUM(r) PROCESSOR 2 350MH
RAM:64MB RAM
HD:8G
VIDEO:SKY WELL MAGIC TWINPOWER AGP 16MB
SOUND:CREATIVE LABS SOUNDBLASTER PCI64
OS:WIN 98 HEBREW ENABLED
MONITOR:MAG XJ707
MOUSE:LOGITECH
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):MY BROTHER HAVE PENTIUM 600MHZ



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SACRIFICE RULZ ITS GONNA BE THE GAME OF THE...YEA...YEARS...THOUSN!!!

Tranquil Tempest July 8th, 2000 09:34 PM

Hello everyone...I finally upgraded my computer...
now i have
a PIII 733
with 128MB of ram
everything else is the same as my earlier posting...
man i notice a big increase in speed from a Cyrix 233 to a PIII 733
it rocks...
thank you and goodnight

Blunted_Dummy July 9th, 2000 08:54 AM

CPU: PIII 600mhz
RAM: 256megs
HD: 20gig, 13gig
VIDEO: Guillemot 3D Prophet (GeForce)
SOUND: SB Live!
OS: Windows ME
MONITOR: Viewsonic 19"
MOUSE: Microsoft Intellimouse

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Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

Bitterman July 9th, 2000 01:19 PM

CPU: PII 400
RAM: 128
HD: 8 gb
VIDEO: Matrox Millennium G400 32 mb
SOUND: Soundlbaster Pci 64
OS: Win 98
MONITOR: Philips 15 inch
MOUSE: Logitech w/ 3 buttons
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):
probably getting Geforce and SB Live soon....



Nanaman July 10th, 2000 07:25 AM

CPU:Emachine 533Mhz
RAM:128KB
HD:15GB
VIDEO:3D AGP
SOUND:Other is an option right?! http://forums.voodooextreme.com/biggrin.gif
OS:Win 98
MONITOR:Samsung SyncMaster 500s but that'll prolly change :\
MOUSE:Logitech 3 button- gonna get a Razer if I can tho! heh
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):uhmm... I think Sacrifice is the coolest game I have ever seen..and... I look forward to playing it http://forums.voodooextreme.com/biggrin.gif

oh and my friend's comps are.. not as good- but they'll be getting good stuff for college http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif


Draconian July 11th, 2000 02:01 PM

CPU: PIII-450
Ram: 128 MB SDRAM
HD: 10G Maxtor
Video: Voodoo3 3000
Sound: Ensoniq Audio PCI
OS: Win 98 SE
Monitor: 17" Proview
Mouse: A4 Tech

Mr.Hat July 18th, 2000 05:20 AM

CPU: AMD-K6-3 450
RAM: 160MB
HD: 10GB
Video: Guillemont Hercules Geforce 32MB DDR
Sound: Monster MX300
OS: WIN98
Monitor: NEC 17"
Mouse: that neato one that glow from microsoft
OTHER: umm...t3 lan connection at college, god bless a good education

Sting Ray July 18th, 2000 10:18 AM

CPU:Pentium III 500
RAM:196MB
HD:8.5G
VIDEO:64MB Maxx Fury
SOUND:AWE Sound Blaster
OS:WIN 98
MONITOR:Sony 15" Noninterlaced monitor .25dpi
MOUSE:Alps Touchpad mouse
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):Wingman Force feedback joystick and Reveal speakers and subwoofer.


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[This message has been edited by Sting Ray (edited 07-18-2000).]

Sting Ray July 18th, 2000 10:31 AM

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the Toshiba laptop ain't as good as you may think. The performance is just fine but the hardware isn't. Put another way, Toshiba laptops break all the time. I know because I work on these things all the time. The hard drive is usually what goes out on them first, followed by a bunch of other problems. A word of advice, when you get another laptop, spend a little extra money and buy quality. Not that I'm dissing you for buying the Toshiba or something. I'm just trying to warn you of what will happen.

Quote:

Originally posted by poopsie:
Just a word to you absolute hardware junkies out there: I recently picked up a Toshiba notebook (techra 8100) with the new s3 savage mx w/8mb vram. This machine runs Sacrifice great! Some features don't work, but what's there can run at 30FPS at 1024x768 (on a freakin' notebook!). The screen is beautiful. Much better than my Dell 7000.

Those of you with slower machines: don't worry, we're not tailoring the game for my notebook http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif . I just thought I'd mention this news for anyone in the market for a notebook that can run next-gen games well.

Also, it only weighs about 5.5 lbs (w/battery). I got the one with the 650mhz speedstep proc. Set to 500 (neat option), it still runs just fine.

Killer machine! http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif

I can't wait to see what Nvidia's NV11 mobile geforce chip can do. This S3 chip doesn't even have hw T&L and it still kicks butt.

-joby

[This message has been edited by poopsie (edited 05-15-2000).]



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hendie July 18th, 2000 11:34 AM

CPU:PII 350 MHZ
RAM:64 SDRAM
HD:5.98 GB
VIDEO:2themax no name (RIVA TNT2 M64 chipset)
SOUND:TBS Montego A3D
OS:WIN 98 1st Edition
MONITOR http://forums.voodooextreme.com/biggrin.gifell D1028L (17inch)
MOUSE: some sort of Microsoft thing
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):just another kid trashin' his dad's computer, i really hope this PC can handle Sacrifice 'cause it looks really promising but i haven't got the money to install new stuff.pleaz let me know something, i came all the way from holland to post this ? http://forums.voodooextreme.com/smile.gif



poopsie July 18th, 2000 11:52 AM

Should be ok Hendie. Not very smooth, but ok. There may still be some optimizations done though.

Sting Ray: yeah, I did run into one hardware problem that kept he machine from booting, but I managaed to fix it myself. So, I can see where you're coming from. Still, now that its running smooth, I have nothing but praise so far. I just wish it did multi-texturing and fogging properly.

-joby

Shivoa July 18th, 2000 03:58 PM

Poopsie, any idea why there is a conflict between the GeForce2 GTS and the VIA chipset mobos?
When I boot from cold (ie power up rather than reset) it often does the three beep-one beep (this is no graphics adaptor found noise) and there is no video output but then when I reset it it boots fine. This seems a very odd error as the GF1 is fine and that uses more power than the GF2 so it can't be that. I was woundering if your QA dept. had come across this problem during system testing?



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-Shivoa
http://www.sacrifice.org.uk/
http://www.smgskins.org.uk/
http://www.TRt.org.uk/

poopsie July 18th, 2000 05:41 PM

I don't think it is a power problem.

I have an athlon 650 on a fic mobo with, I think, a via chipset. I have the same problem you described. Happens pretty rarely and always boots after reset.

I think if it were a problem of the card persistently getting less power than needed or inconsistent power post start up, you'd probably get other problems. I had a power problem on one geforce card (one a p3 600 intel mobo) and got terrible corruption in the display though it booted fine.

However, I don't have a solution, or even a hint of one, for the problem you mentioned. Sorry.

-joby

-joby

Jim Star July 18th, 2000 09:30 PM

got a new computer:
power mac G4 400
192 megs ram
10 gig HD
Mac os 9
dvd-rom
rage 128 pro 16 meg

hope to see a mac version of sacrifice one day!

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Jim Star
Messiah-Québec
http://pages.infinit.net/jimstar
http://pages.infinit.net/jimstar/sacrifice.htm

Shivoa July 19th, 2000 06:13 PM

Poopsie, I think I've found a solution (or at least a way of making it less common). Turn on Wake on LAN in the BIOS. Since I turned that on (I also reinstalled 1004Bios after deciding 1005 wasn't better but this is mobo specific and so won't apply to yours) it has not failed to startup the video card at startup so problem solved AFAIK.



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-Shivoa
http://www.sacrifice.org.uk/
http://www.smgskins.org.uk/
http://www.TRt.org.uk/

Nanaman July 19th, 2000 11:12 PM

CPU:hopefully 800mhz
RAM:64mb possibly 128
HD:16gigs
VIDEO:3d card don't know what yet
SOUND http://forums.voodooextreme.com/redface.gifther
OS:win98
MONITOR:19" pimp monitor http://forums.voodooextreme.com/biggrin.gif
MOUSE:3 button logitech
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):If i win the contest then i won't have to bother buying one in which case you can just insert the specs for that computer above. *first i have to think something up*

JMike July 20th, 2000 09:41 AM

CPU: PII 400@412
RAM: 256 Mb
HD: IBM Deskstar 14GB 7200 RPM
VIDEO: Creative Annihilator PRO
SOUND: Montego II (A3D)
OS: Win 98 Sp1
MONITOR:Philips 109B 19"
MOUSE: Wingman gaming mouse
WHATEVER: Microsoft intellitype Internet + USB keyboard

silver_sepp July 23rd, 2000 04:47 PM

CPU: AMD K6-2 333@367
RAM: 48
HD: 10.2 GB
VIDEO: Voodoo3 3000 AGP
SOUND: No idea
OS: Win 98
MONITOR: ADI 17'
MOUSE: Logitech
WHATEVER: cd writer, 56k modem, TV-card
dam, i hope sacrifice runs in some way...



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SG - http://silvergraphics.gz.ee - peace!

Nicolas July 24th, 2000 07:16 AM

CPU: intel P200
RAM: 64MB
HD: 9Gb, 7200rps
VIDEO: Voodoo Banshee
SOUND: Sound Blaster 64
OS: Windows 98
MONITOR: Hitachi 17inch
MOUSE: Logitech 3-button mouse
WHATEVER (anything else you wanna mention):

What do I win with this? A new CPU (Z80)? RAM (relais)? HD (floppy drive)?

charnel_2001 July 25th, 2000 03:36 PM

CPU: Intel Pentium III 866 MHz
HD: 30 GB 7200 RPS ATA
Video: Geforce 2 GTS (64 MB)
Sound: Sound Blaster Live! Value
Speakers: Altec Lansing Surround Speakers with Subwoofer
Monitor: 19"
OS: Win 98

(This is the machine I get in about a week)
Right now I have an overclocked 233 POS

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"YOu've got two empty 'alves of coconut an' you're bangin' 'em together!"
-Monty Python

[This message has been edited by charnel_2001 (edited 07-25-2000).]

Shivoa July 25th, 2000 04:18 PM

Charnel_2001, give me back my computer. You bast*rd, you stole my computer while I wasn't looking and are claiming its your own. Are those Altecs 395s or 495s.
Geforce 2 GTS (64 MB) - Which make?



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-Shivoa
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