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Serio October 16th, 2012 09:31 AM

Next Skyrim DLC details
 
Given the nature of rumours and the means by which the details were acquired, this should be taken with a grain of salt. Nonetheless, they are some interesting ideas involved.

Rumor: Skyrim's next DLC is 'Dragonborn' | Joystiq

Returning to a place previously visited in a post-Daggerfall Elder Scrolls game would certainly be new. As some people will remember, the island of Solstheim was last visited in the Bloodmoon expansion for Morrowind. Aside from the location, there are also mentions of Dragon mounts and new armour types, both of which I find rather unlikely. With the former, they'd have to restrict them to Solstheim only and make the island big enough to make it plausible to fly around. And what new armour types would there be? Ice armour?

Mr. Matt October 17th, 2012 05:35 AM

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There were new armour 'types' in Dawnguard too; I wouldn't say I was especially thrilled with those. That said, Skyrim is missing a couple of armour types from previous games. I for one would like chainmail to make a return, as I'm not a fan of the light armours available in Skyrim (other than the unique armours of course). And they could flesh out Steel Plate, which was supposed to include weapons and a shield.

According to Eurogamer, though, the new armour types are going to be called "Bonemold, Chitin, Nordic and Stalhrim", which tells us precisely nothing about them, as expected. It also suggests that we'll finally be able to cast spells from horseback, which is nice.

I'm not sure about dragon mounts though. This is a rumour that has been cropping up since before Skyrim even released, and I'm sure the developers said that it wasn't possible for a variety of technical reasons, so unless they've solved those reasons I'd hold out for an official announcement before getting your hopes up.

Personally I was hoping for Elsweyr, or perhaps an anti-Thalmor addon. But I understand why they might be saving new places like Elsweyr for future games, and there's still nothing stopping any DLC from covering the aftermath of the civil war.

Mihail October 17th, 2012 06:29 AM

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Quote:

or perhaps an anti-Thalmor addon. But I understand why they might be saving new places like Elsweyr for future games
I don't know, it seems that the dragonborn after the lead up to the end of the civil war seemed like a perfect jumping off point onto a thalmor expansion, I'd pay almost a full retail price of a game for a proper expansion and not DLC.

Nemmerle October 17th, 2012 08:38 AM

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I might hock up for a decent spell creation system and having cast bound to a keyboard key again. Playing a mage in skyrim sucks once you get into high levels, and the swordplay's only so-so.

As for expansions - yeah, Thalmore would have been nice.

Mr. Matt October 17th, 2012 02:50 PM

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EG have updated their original article; spears are apparently coming too. Yay?

Nemmerle October 17th, 2012 02:56 PM

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One on one spear tactics seem like something that would be really difficult to simulate in their UI setup. Especially when adding a shield changes things so dramatically. Even the ones in Mount and Blade were a bit pants.

Guess we'll just have to see how it turns out - I've never seen a good implementation of them in a fighting game though.

Commissar MercZ October 17th, 2012 08:34 PM

Re: Next Skyrim DLC details
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Matt (Post 5666989)
According to Eurogamer, though, the new armour types are going to be called "Bonemold, Chitin, Nordic and Stalhrim", which tells us precisely nothing about them, as expected.

They were all armor types from Morrowind iirc. Bonemold was that yellowish "medium" armor that House guards used. Chitin was a light armor I think. Nordic will probably be a retexture or maybe some old nord stuff- there were variants in Morrowind too though.

Stalhrim I think was used in Bloodmoon to craft Ice weapons and a set of armor.

BTW here's the forum post that is quoted:

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/141...t__p__21654196
Spoiler:
Discuss. I will update this thread as i get more info.

Thanks to mardoxx for the info.

Link to the old thread here : http://forums.bethso...he-latest-beta/

data\interface\Translate_english.txt
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorBonemold BONEMOLD
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorChitin CHITIN
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorNordic NORDIC
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorStalhrim STALHRIM
$Dragonborn Quests Completed Dragonborn Quests Completed
$DRAGONBORN_ESMName Dragonborn
$DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT_PS3 DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT

update.bsa\interface\exported\hudmenu.gfx & quest_journal.gfx
Hudmenu compass markers/quest journal quest header:

http://i.imgur.com/ldx1a.png

http://i.imgur.com/mWGUj.png

update.bsa\interface\startmenu.swf\startmenu.as:
MainList.entryList.push({text: "$DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT" + (iPlatform == 3 ? "_PS3" : ""), index: StartMenu.DLC_INDEX, disabled: false});

Update.bsa\meshes\animationsetdatasinglefile.txt
DragonMountedDualMagic.txt
DragonMountedDualStaff.txt
DragonMountedMLhSolo.txt
DragonMountedMLhStaff.txt
DragonMountedMRhSolo.txt
DragonMountedMRhSolo_ShieldOrTorch.txt
DragonMountedMRhStaff.txt

Paired_DLC02RipHeartOut


I must add that the quest markers listed in the first image has one for "To Skyrim"... now this might just be to mark the vessel that takes you from a port in the game to Solstheim, but I think it may also mean the island has its own separate worldspace rather than being in the game's main world space.

Mr. Matt October 18th, 2012 05:33 AM

Re: Next Skyrim DLC details
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Commissar MercZ (Post 5667068)
They were all armor types from Morrowind iirc. Bonemold was that yellowish "medium" armor that House guards used. Chitin was a light armor I think. Nordic will probably be a retexture or maybe some old nord stuff- there were variants in Morrowind too though.

Stalhrim I think was used in Bloodmoon to craft Ice weapons and a set of armor.

BTW here's the forum post that is quoted:

Hints found about the next DLC Found in 1.8 Beta - Bethesda Softworks Forums
Spoiler:
Discuss. I will update this thread as i get more info.

Thanks to mardoxx for the info.

Link to the old thread here : http://forums.bethso...he-latest-beta/

data\interface\Translate_english.txt
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorBonemold BONEMOLD
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorChitin CHITIN
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorNordic NORDIC
$Crafting_$DLC2ArmorStalhrim STALHRIM
$Dragonborn Quests Completed Dragonborn Quests Completed
$DRAGONBORN_ESMName Dragonborn
$DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT_PS3 DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT

update.bsa\interface\exported\hudmenu.gfx & quest_journal.gfx
Hudmenu compass markers/quest journal quest header:

http://i.imgur.com/ldx1a.png

http://i.imgur.com/mWGUj.png

update.bsa\interface\startmenu.swf\startmenu.as:
MainList.entryList.push({text: "$DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT" + (iPlatform == 3 ? "_PS3" : ""), index: StartMenu.DLC_INDEX, disabled: false});

Update.bsa\meshes\animationsetdatasinglefile.txt
DragonMountedDualMagic.txt
DragonMountedDualStaff.txt
DragonMountedMLhSolo.txt
DragonMountedMLhStaff.txt
DragonMountedMRhSolo.txt
DragonMountedMRhSolo_ShieldOrTorch.txt
DragonMountedMRhStaff.txt

Paired_DLC02RipHeartOut


I must add that the quest markers listed in the first image has one for "To Skyrim"... now this might just be to mark the vessel that takes you from a port in the game to Solstheim, but I think it may also mean the island has its own separate worldspace rather than being in the game's main world space.

Yeah, but when you consider how different every other armour is to every other game in the Elder Scrolls series (Dwarven is the only one that I think has remained more or less similar across the franchise) I can't imagine how they're going to look. Nor how they will fit alongside the existing armours, stat-wise.

Commissar MercZ November 5th, 2012 09:00 AM

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They released a trailer, pretty much everything that was gleaned from the patch was correct. It's another timed exclusive though, being released on December 4 for Xbox first.


Mr. Matt November 5th, 2012 09:39 AM

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YouTube fail!

It should be the last timed exclusive though, they were only signed on with MS for three. Unless Hearthfire doesn't count.

Except for PS3, which is excluded from them all. I told you people that it would suck on the PS3; you all argued!

Octovon November 5th, 2012 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Matt (Post 5669647)
It should be the last timed exclusive though, they were only signed on with MS for three. Unless Hearthfire doesn't count.

Except for PS3, which is excluded from them all. I told you people that it would suck on the PS3; you all argued!

It sucks for PS3 owners to get shafted like that. The PS3 version of the game itself was a pretty bad port to begin with, framerate issues and such (as is the norm with any Bethesda game on PS3 really). I'm glad I traded in my copy months ago. It was a fun game but DLC is often a waste of money (though it turns out I wouldn't have had access to any anyways), and I felt like I had done everything or explored everything that was worth exploring. A few new generic armours and the ability to ride dragons doesn't seem all that interesting to me, so I doubt I'd buy it if I had the chance.

Commissar MercZ November 5th, 2012 12:10 PM

Re: Next Skyrim DLC details
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Matt (Post 5669647)
YouTube fail!

It should be the last timed exclusive though, they were only signed on with MS for three. Unless Hearthfire doesn't count.

Except for PS3, which is excluded from them all. I told you people that it would suck on the PS3; you all argued!

The timed exclusives suck, but for PS3 users I think it's really bad that in general all of Beth's releases for PS3 have been pretty poorly optimized and not too well supported. Ignoring for the moment that Dawnguard hasn't worked, the original release wasn't all that well done anyways for PS3 users.

Mr. Matt November 5th, 2012 05:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Commissar MercZ (Post 5669669)
The timed exclusives suck, but for PS3 users I think it's really bad that in general all of Beth's releases for PS3 have been pretty poorly optimized and not too well supported. Ignoring for the moment that Dawnguard hasn't worked, the original release wasn't all that well done anyways for PS3 users.

Indeed. The only Bethesda game to work well on the PS3 has been Oblivion, and that was ported over by a different developer anyway.

Bethesda urgently need to create a new game engine from scratch if they plan on releasing any more games on current gen hardware (in fact, even if they don't - I don't ever want to see that Gamebryo-derived monstrosity ever again).

Octovon November 5th, 2012 06:38 PM

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^ I remember Oblivion having some framerate issues on the PS3, but compared to Fallout 3, Fallout NV, and Skyrim, Oblivion worked near-perfect on the PS3. The PS3 has gotten a number of bad ports of multi-platform games over the years and Bethesda is one of the worst when it comes to porting games to the PS3.

Serio November 6th, 2012 09:17 AM

Re: Next Skyrim DLC details
 
It can only be better than the horrendous disaster called Dawnguard. About the only positive thing about Dawnguard was the Soul Cairn. Everything else felt like poorly written and not at all fitting for an entry into Elder Scrolls lore. Fortunately, it seems like Bethesda put effort into Solstheim with this.

Mr. Matt November 6th, 2012 10:11 AM

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I get the impression that Bethesda are using their 'three MS exclusive' DLC packs to get the crud out of the way while they work on something far bigger. Because from the start they've said that with Skyrim they wanted their DLC to be more like the Shivering Isles pack than the Horse Armour pack, but the last two packs feel half-arsed; I reckon they'll up their game with the 4th pack.


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