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UnBaLaNcEd_KMA May 11th, 2001 07:54 PM

How do I know that you all really exist?
 
Is Sac the first Existensialist game?
A) I never logged into this forum before installing the game.
B) The game introduced me to the Sac related community, and KMAgaming.com didn't exist before the game hit my hard drive -- and it was a player I spoke with online who prompted me through suggestion to create the website.

It occurs to me that you all may just be an elaborate facet of the most involving RPG game ever conceived! How utterly brilliant...My role goes beyond the game itself (but in actuality, it's still the game, isn't it?) to encompass all of the fringe elements of the gaming experience as well!

For the love of JesusGodJehovahBahaiBuddaSetBelialAsmodeusOdinZeus (etc...) it's even got me discussing religion....It's...It's...would you all even exist without me? Am I talking to myself (in a way unlike the usual self dialog I indulge in)?

My head...Shut up!...

OK, I'm ready to go online now.

UB

DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 07:58 PM

I hope I exist. At least I think I do.
Then again maybe this is all some elaborate scheme to start selling flowers at some airport. I am not shaving my head no matter what you all say!!!!!!!!!

UnBaLaNcEd_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:01 PM

Doc, use nair!

UB

DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:03 PM

Genetics will take over anyway but I only use nair on my bikini err.. nevermind

illuminatus May 11th, 2001 08:04 PM

Luckily for us existentialist was proved to be a proverbial pile of pants by contemporary Philosophers and Modern ones alike.

For example, Rene Descartes tells us " I think therefore I am " and so if you think at all, you exist, ergo existentialist thinking is already fundamentaly wrong.
However you could say, how do I know all things external to me exist. How do I know im not fooling myself, take the effects of LSD for instance. How do I know that you are the same people reading this forum last night!!
HOW DO I KNOW WHEN TO STOP USING RHETORICAL QUESTIONS!!!!

These are the things we should be asking about http://www.veforums.com/redface.gif

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UnBaLaNcEd_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:05 PM

Doc, I'm still waiting for those pics you promised to send for your entry into the KMA beauty contest....
And remember, I can't post the nudies.

UB

DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:07 PM

You mean the ones with the small farm animals??

DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:11 PM

Ill, that was deep man!!!

LSD just really throws this question into another realm.....

In the immortal words of Roger Waters: "Is there anybody out there?"

illuminatus May 11th, 2001 08:12 PM

But wait.....what if Descartes didnt really exist!! Then he didnt say that.. http://www.veforums.com/redface.gif.

Which must mean I dont exi....POOOF

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UnBaLaNcEd_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:13 PM

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For example, Rene Descartes tells us " I think therefore I am " and so if you think at all, you exist, ergo existentialist thinking is already fundamentaly wrong.
My own existance proven, under that premise, in no way proves yours, for how do I know you think? At least, I think so....
But, as you (if it really is you) say, did Descartes really exist?

Haven't you ever seen "Dark Star"?
Let there be LIGHT!!!!

UB



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DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:17 PM

This tangent has went way off into the plane of non-cognizant realization.

Sorry I just had to use some words that I dont get to use that often.

illuminatus May 11th, 2001 08:20 PM

And so we travel to the realms of epistemology, to know that unbalanced we must study the link between what we *know* and what we *believe*, for if you know me to think... I must do. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

I hope you dont actually expect me to solve this aged old riddle ever, I think I'll just sit here procrastinating. http://www.veforums.com/tongue.gif

DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:22 PM

Now what the hell does epis.. oh that word mean????

DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:23 PM

Now what the hell does epis.. oh that word mean????

Double post cool.

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illuminatus May 11th, 2001 08:27 PM

The branch of philosophy that studies the nature of knowledge, its presuppositions and foundations, and its extent and validity.


DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:29 PM

Learn something new everyday and thanks Ill on the new addition into my everyday vocabulary!!!!!

illuminatus May 11th, 2001 08:32 PM

j0z is velcome...

You only use it when your feeling REALLY pretentious http://www.veforums.com/tongue.gif

UnBaLaNcEd_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:34 PM

Doc, ye shall post times three, and the answer will come to thee...

And Illuminatus, we can't solve this riddle any more than the riddle of how something was created from nothing, and how the Universe we know came to be, can be solved....ever.

God? Well then who or what created God. I refuse to believe that anything could have always existed. Everything has a birth, a source, which in turn must have a source....

The existance of matter goes against all the laws of physics. We can not exist, therefore we don't, however we do....Therefore ANYTHING can exist, but it can't.

UB

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DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:35 PM

I know my lexicology is lacking but I do know what that one meant. lol

illuminatus May 11th, 2001 08:37 PM

Unsheath your verbage sir!

For Im off to bed... its only 4:38 am you know. http://www.veforums.com/frown.gif

DRDeath_KMA May 11th, 2001 08:48 PM

Have a good nights/days rest and I will try to broaden my unimpressive vocabulary one day.

DarkHarlequin May 12th, 2001 12:05 AM

i know i exist cause i made all of you.

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Muffy[importedFF] May 12th, 2001 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnBaLaNcEd_KMA:
It occurs to me that you all may just be an elaborate facet of the most involving RPG game ever conceived!
Why, that's absolutely ridiculous, of course we all exis -[ATTENTION!!!-WARNING!!!-PARSING SCRIPT ERROR!!! REBOOT PROTOTYPE X-1 ORGANIC SUPERCOMPUTER!!!]

Please wait, reloading persona subroutines . . . 5
4
3
2
1 . . .

Uh, yes, you were saying?



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Slubberty-flubberty-dubberty,
Flippity-flappity-flop,
Rub-a-dub-dub-in-the-tubbity,
Who's always losing their top?

DarkHarlequin May 12th, 2001 12:20 AM

*kicks jimbo* stop messing with the computer and screwing peoples brains up, they are sensitive about their mortal selves and their so called "souls."

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http://www.caned99.freeserve.co.uk/i...tyjaslogo1.gif "This is a picture of my chef Jimbo. Jimbo just got done making me a ham sandwhich. Jimbo believes in fresh food as you can see, hehehehe."

Muffy[importedFF] May 12th, 2001 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muffy:
Why, that's absolutely ridiculous, of course we all exis -[ATTENTION!!!-WARNING!!!-PARSING SCRIPT ERROR!!! REBOOT PROTOTYPE X-1 ORGANIC SUPERCOMPUTER!!!]

Come to think of it, most of us could be effectively modeled by a microprocessor controlled toaster oven running BASIC.



UnBaLaNcEd_KMA May 12th, 2001 07:03 AM

OK....this is getting weird!
I swear I just saw Mithras at the 7-11, buying a sixpack of Keystone light....I really knew it was him, because when I blew his cover in public he started to hobble away with that hopping gait of his using his staff for support. I knocked him down and ran, before he could cast any spells or summon creatures. Sitting here in the dark, now, waiting for the inevitable confrontation with Marduk...don't think I'll use custom this time, perhaps I'll give pure Stratos a try. My dog thinks I should go Pyro, but she doesn't know squat -- she can't even beat DrDeath_KMA on Twirl.

UB

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P.S. Been trying to cast a lith in the cat-box. Isn't going as well as the others, and keeps exploding before completion. The mess is getting to be more than the dog can keep up with...any helpful suggestions would be appreciated!

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Archon May 12th, 2001 09:20 PM

we all exsist yes except unbalanced he was just a computer trying to screw with us IT WONT WORK! http://www.veforums.com/biggrin.gif

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Ethereal Arcane is the most shrouded elementalism of all time only I hold the power of the arcane.

UnBaLaNcEd_KMA May 13th, 2001 01:29 AM

OK, got the lith in the litter box going...it's a little smelly, but lighter fluid helped stick the poo together, and when I used pyro to conjure a fireball at it it started to give a nice glow....
Now, where have my manahoars gone....


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