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Drazula August 9th, 2001 06:43 PM

Our worst fears: Max Payne "criminally short"
 
Gentlemen,

Our worst fears have become a reality. This comes from GameSpy's review:

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The game is almost criminally short and will take the average gamer only 10 hours to solve from beginning cut-scene to ending storyboards. At a retail price of $45.00 (and above) Max Payne might not offer enough gaming bang for your gaming buck.
You may think that the reviewer was sitting over my shoulder while I was playing (10 hours, right on the mark), I assure you he wasn't. The above quote saddens me. Why? Because in spite of the obvious undervalue of the Max Payne, the reviewer gave Max a good rating. (90%).

It looks like the online gaming reviewers have accepted these gamelettes as mainstream. They have accepted one-trick-pony shows as being the best game developers can come up with. They have joined with developers to pillage every last dollar from unsuspecting consumers for half built products.

Why? Maybe reviewers are sick, like we are, of waiting four years for a decent game to come out. Perhaps they believe by accepting these "demos for dollars" they will have more to write about, thus saving their jobs!

THEY COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG! It's bad enough that many developers completely ignore deadlines, but now they can get away with only creating "mini paynes" and get paid top dollar for it.

Truth is: reviewers don't give a flying f*ck about the cost of games because the get them for free. But they are cutting their own throats by approving of this nonsense.

Don't let game developers get away with it folks. You will either be spending a lot more money on games or you will only be getting half the enjoyment from them.

JOIN THE FIGHT OR GET OUTTA THE WAY!

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I've been trying to change the world for years but they just won't give me the source code!

jbrians August 9th, 2001 07:00 PM

Seems fair to me. He sad the game was great, but warned about the shortness. Reviewers are there to help you make a buying decision. That's exactly what he did. Max Payne is a great game, but not the right game for you if you can only afford 1 game this quarter.

benita316 August 9th, 2001 07:07 PM

Shutup you cheap bastard.

Im assuming you knew how much the game cost before you bought it?
It was never built up as being an epic experience. Just a bit of fun which 95% of ppl were happy to pay for.


GenD August 9th, 2001 07:11 PM

right on drazy

i had a post before here, a call to boycott gamespot for their sellout tactics.

Drazula August 9th, 2001 07:22 PM

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It was never built up as being an epic experience.
I see the words but all I read is "blah-blah-blah". Scott Miller of 3DR said Max Payne would change gaming forever. Sounds like an "epic experience" to me! Nitwit!

In a very negative way, by forcing us to pay more for less, Scott Miller may be right.

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I've been trying to change the world for years but they just won't give me the source code!

benita316 August 9th, 2001 07:28 PM

You idiot.

You obviously dont know what the word "epic" means.

The geo-mod engine has probably changed games. Does that make the geo-mod engine and "epic experience" lol you fool.

It's not my fault you have no money so stop crying about it

FIREwall2001 August 9th, 2001 07:29 PM

I agree with Drazula on some respects. Max Payne was "criminally short", but the reason it was given a 90% was because of the gameplay and graphics that were featured in those 10-12 hours. Even Skaven said that they were focused more on "quality hours" than "quantity hours". I think the mistake Remedy made here was that they leaned a little too far on the side of quality when they should have leaned a little more in the quantity direction. Hell, we waited 4 years, we could have waited a little longer for a couple more hours of gameplay. Either way though, those 11 hours I played were DAMN fun. Can't wait for MP2 and the mods that will be made (hopefully).

Drazula August 9th, 2001 07:38 PM

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You obviously dont know what the word "epic" means.
Nitwit! I've been around for about four decades. I'm pretty confident in my understanding of the word "epic".

As for your "hype baby" attitude, I would not be surprised if mommy or daddy purchased Maxi Pad for your pimpled-sorry a$$. You have no concept of money.

Go away, neomort...



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benita316 August 9th, 2001 07:44 PM

Suuuure you're 40

if you're so smart, EXPLAIN HOW MP was built up to be epic

Kickassguy August 9th, 2001 07:45 PM

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Because in spite of the obvious undervalue of the Max Payne, the reviewer gave Max a good rating. (90%).
And that was for good reason. The vast majority of game reviewers on the Internet, Draz, contrary to popular belief, are NOT idiots. They've played the game, they've acknowledged the length, yet, they've still given out high scores.

This. Is. Obviously. For. A. Reason.

I can pay 50 bucks to watch 5 1.5 hour movies in the theatre. If they're good, I'll obviously care somewhat about the cash I spent, yet I'll acknowledge that for that cash, I was well entertained. The same goes for Max Payne. It took me about 12-15 hours to complete. Cost me around 60 bucks. And I'm happy. Why? Because this game takes you on an extremely entertaining ride. A ride that you can't experience in games with 60 hours of gameplay with a half-assed excuse to kill everything in sight. Max Payne's story is head-and-shoulders above anything released recently. The gameplay is fantastic. The graphics set the new industry standard. The sound is excellent. The level design well done. Realistic. Yeah, so it's a bit short. Big deal. This detracts somewhat from the value, but not enough to spoil the entire overall effect.

If I ever only played through the entire game once, and it thoroughly entertained me for those 15 or so hours and even ONLY for those 15 hours, I consider the money was well spent.

This might not be your opinion, or that of some others, but it's pretty clear that this is the opinion of the majority.

You, my friend, are speaking for the minority.



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