You fell for it. I'm not 40. I'm 38. But since I was measuring in decades, I rounded. I guess you're concept of estimation in about as good as your understanding of money. http://www.veforums.com/rolleyes.gif Also nitwit, you could have looked at my profile which has my homepage listed, which has a pictures of me, my wife and my four children! Way to talk outta your arse!

Hype-babies http://www.veforums.com/rolleyes.gif

Ugh! What movies are $10? And what movies are an 1.5 hours? (Outside of "Rugrats in Paris", like I said, four kids!)

Most matinee movies are $5! Evenings are $7. And most movies last about 2 hours. Recheck those numbers!

JOIN THE FIGHT OR GET OUTTA THE WAY! WE'RE COMING THROUGH! WE'RE MAD AS HELL AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! (Ow, I just cramped my index finger... http://www.veforums.com/wink.gif)

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I've been trying to change the world for years but they just won't give me the source code!

You obviously don't live in Canada. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

I say half these damn cheap ass reviews don't even buy the games anyways! They get 'em for free or download the thing from #WAREZ on IRC or something!

Drazula;

"In a very negative way, by forcing us to pay more for less, Scott Miller may be right."

One word. Greed.

Constrained as the content of Max Payne as it so obviously was, has enabled them to make top drawer profits from a bottom drawer game. Reasons being; bullet-time, photo-realism, and a slick once over, enabling the peddling of a game content less sophisticated than Tombraider to an ever desperate public searching for a game worth playing.

Why innovate or actually produce something worth having or savouring, when the gaming market is so malleable as to accept any warmed over dinner left for the dog?

The cause of this is over-subservient gaming press striving for market share in an overcrowded publishing market. Without sycophantic reviews the game market would collapse like a dying star as it doesn't contain enough critical mass in the quality of game releases.

The unholy alliance of the gaming press and self-serving developers is holding the gaming public to ransom.

Max Payne is heralding a new age of gaming where gamers will be subjected to paying more for less, with the tease that there might be later add-ons. One day, once gamers have been manipulated that far down the garden path, how long before the free add-ons become chargeable add-ons?

kickassguy;

"The vast majority of game reviewers on the Internet, Draz, contrary to popular belief, are NOT idiots."

True. That's why they're doing it. Their first priority isn't to making a good, thoughtfull, well informed review. That went out with the Ark. Their first priority is to make money.

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The gaming public is being kept in the dark by developers and the press. If anyone had any inkling what alternatives existed, how long would it be before the backlash started?

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[This message has been edited by CultureShock (edited 08-09-2001).]

O.K. if you're 38. Why do I seem to find that the more of your post I read the more I think that I'm much older than you(Or just more intelligent).And I'm only 17. And if you have 4 kids. Just made them play the game and that give you 50 to 60 hours of gameplay.

Cultureshock.. the majority of reviewers may in fact be in it for the money, but reviewers ON THE INTERNET aren't. I could go into Frontpage express and whip up a 2-minute page and say that "MAX PayNE SI TEH BOMBB!1" and I would be an Internet Reviewer©. Internet reviews aren't solely sites like Gamespot or anything of the sort. What's more important is the buzz on the forums, on the user-made pages. Each person coming on here and saying that Max Payne is a fantastic experience that, even with it's shortness and MAYBE even it's somewhat redundant gameplay (that, even though I acknowledge it as redundant, entertains me still), is well worth the money they spent for it is just as much an Internet Review© as two-bit hacks who give high scores for the money (which isn't the case as often as you might like to believe.)

Albrot

P.S. - If anyone goes to my "MAX PayNE SI TEH BOMBB!!1" site, please make sure to donate money to me, because, after all, I gets "teh monyes" for saying that.

Could someone please inform me of the federal law that states "all games must have X minimum hourly length, else all will perish."

????????

I'll admit that MP is short, but that's no reason to lessen its overall score. Remember, the #1 rule when rating a game is...

RATE THE GAME. NOT YOUR CLOCK.

I only get 24 hours out of a full day...I'm gonna send hate mail to God about this...

I feel sorry for your wife and kids

38 years old and still duking it out online with a bunch of teenagers.....


btw: you still haven't answered the question. why did you buy MP in the first place?

[This message has been edited by benita316 (edited 08-09-2001).]

Albrot;

"it is just as much an Internet Review© as two-bit hacks who give high scores for the money (which isn't the case as often as you might like to believe.)"

That might be the case for the minority of gamers. But, what about the large numbers of people who get most of their game review diet through magazines and so-called "anchor sites".

As for the professional journalists who ply their trade for money, the vast majority of reviews I have seen are sycophantic drivel, buried amongst pages of advertising. Very few, if any, ask the hard questions.

The wheels of commerce ride roughshod over enthusiast sites. I think you underestimate their power.

Max Payne is a warmed over Tombraider - You heard it here first. http://www.veforums.com/eek.gif

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I found it at Best Buy for 34.99.