problems

***balefire*** · January 9th, 2001

I start up Sacrifice, it goes through the load, and then gets to the Shiny screen. I hear some initial music and then it exits to desktop every time. Here is my initial thaum :
Current path 'C:\PROGRAM FILES\SHINY\SACRIFICE'
Sacrifice build 0521, Dec 14 2000

3D_D3D: Enumerating DirectDraw devices
3D_D3D: Found display device : display : Primary Display Driver
3D_D3D: Enumerating 3D devices for display
3D_D3D: Unusable 3D device : RGB Emulation : Microsoft Direct3D RGB Software Emulation
3D_D3D: Reason:
3D_D3D: No hardware rasterization
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware acceleration through Direct3D HAL
3D sound provider supports max 64 samples
Loading

//================================================== ===
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Fault address: B00BAFC1 00:00000000
Registers:
EAX:B00BB620
EBX:0072F7FC
ECX:000000D5
EDX:CF328280
ESI:0072F7BC
EDI:0072F7DC
CS:EIP:0177:B00BAFC1
SS:ESP:017F:0072F690 EBP:0000000C
DS:017F ES:017F FS:0FDF GS:0000
Flags:00010202

Raw Stack:
0072f690: 00000000 00000000 00000010 8378b00c
0072f6b0: 00000000 00000000 b00e51e2 00000000
0072f6d0: 00000000 00000002 00000001 00000002
0072f6f0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 0072f700
0072f710: 82dcf498 82dcf4a0 82dcf49c 82dcf4a4
0072f730: 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0072f750: 00000000 0072f998 baae66e8 baaa20c0
0072f770: 00000000 0072f8d8 00000000 01020000
SymLoadModule on "thaum.exe" failed (3)

ImageHlp Call stack:
Address Frame
B00BAFC1 00000000 0000:00000000

Blind stackwalk:
14002d10: ERRORMGR::Assert+0
1800bf4e: _3dngn::Thumbnail16+2BAE
18013680: VERTEXBUFFER::BufferLock+10
1801361c: VERTEXBUFFER::BufferMakeRoom+AC
18008614: _3dngn:

rawQuad+14

Intel-specific Call stack:
Address Module Function
B00BAFC1 (error 126)

I tried installing DirectX 8 and it returned with this :

Current path 'C:\PROGRAM FILES\SHINY\SACRIFICE'
Sacrifice build 0521, Dec 14 2000

3D_D3D: Enumerating DirectDraw devices
3D_D3D: Found display device : display : Primary Display Driver
3D_D3D: Enumerating 3D devices for display
3D_D3D: Unusable 3D device : RGB Emulation : Microsoft Direct3D RGB Software Emulation
3D_D3D: Reason:
3D_D3D: No hardware rasterization
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware acceleration through Direct3D HAL
3D sound provider supports max 64 samples
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Loading
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire keyboard device, error 2147942405
Cannot acquire mouse device, error 2147942405

//================================================== ===
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Fault address: B00BAFC1 2D5F2C12:2FEF2EA8 31u2´3ò4,6e7
Registers:
EAX:B00BB620
EBX:0072F7FC
ECX:000000D5
EDX:CF128280
ESI:0072F7BC
EDI:0072F7DC
CS:EIP:0177:B00BAFC1
SS:ESP:017F:0072F690 EBP:0000000C
DS:017F ES:017F FS:2317 GS:0000
Flags:00010202

Raw Stack:
0072f690: 00000000 00000000 00000010 8378b00c
0072f6b0: 00000000 00000000 b00e51e2 00000000
0072f6d0: 00000000 00000002 00000001 00000002
0072f6f0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 0072f700
0072f710: 82dcf498 82dcf4a0 82dcf49c 82dcf4a4
0072f730: 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0072f750: 00000000 0072f998 baae66e8 baaa20c0
0072f770: 00000000 0072f8d8 00000000 01020000
SymLoadModule on "thaum.exe" failed (3)

ImageHlp Call stack:
Address Frame
B00BAFC1 00000000 0000:00000000

Blind stackwalk:
14002d10: ERRORMGR::Assert+0
1800bf4e: _3dngn::Thumbnail16+2BAE
18013680: VERTEXBUFFER::BufferLock+10
1801361c: VERTEXBUFFER::BufferMakeRoom+AC
18008614: _3dngn:

rawQuad+14

Intel-specific Call stack:
Address Module Function
B00BAFC1 (error 126)

and then once more with DX8 i got :

Current path 'C:\PROGRAM FILES\SHINY\SACRIFICE'
Sacrifice build 0521, Dec 14 2000

3D_D3D: Enumerating DirectDraw devices
3D_D3D: Found display device : display : Primary Display Driver
3D_D3D: Enumerating 3D devices for display
3D_D3D: Unusable 3D device : RGB Emulation : Microsoft Direct3D RGB Software Emulation
3D_D3D: Reason:
3D_D3D: No hardware rasterization
3D_D3D: Found 3D device : Direct3D HAL : Microsoft Direct3D Hardware acceleration through Direct3D HAL
3D sound provider supports max 64 samples
Loading

//================================================== ===
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Fault address: B00BAFC1 00:00000000
Registers:
EAX:B00BB620
EBX:0072F7FC
ECX:000000D5
EDX:CF7F2280
ESI:0072F7BC
EDI:0072F7DC
CS:EIP:0177:B00BAFC1
SS:ESP:017F:0072F690 EBP:0000000C
DS:017F ES:017F FS:3B27 GS:0000
Flags:00010202

Raw Stack:
0072f690: 00000000 00000000 00000010 8397700c
0072f6b0: 00000000 00000000 b00e51e2 00000000
0072f6d0: 00000000 00000002 00000001 00000002
0072f6f0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 0072f700
0072f710: 83775488 83775490 8377548c 83775494
0072f730: 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0072f750: 00000000 0072f998 baae66e8 baaa20c0
0072f770: 00000000 0072f8d8 00000000 01020000
SymLoadModule on "thaum.exe" failed (3)

ImageHlp Call stack:
Address Frame
B00BAFC1 00000000 0000:00000000

Blind stackwalk:
14002d10: ERRORMGR::Assert+0
1800bf4e: _3dngn::Thumbnail16+2BAE
18013680: VERTEXBUFFER::BufferLock+10
1801361c: VERTEXBUFFER::BufferMakeRoom+AC
18008614: _3dngn:

rawQuad+14

Intel-specific Call stack:
Address Module Function
B00BAFC1 (error 126)

I am using the Graphics Blaster RIVA 128ZX which is listed among supportable types. I updated the drivers to those stated on the webpage. I have reformatted my harddrive a couple months ago so it should be pretty clear of excess crud. Any help would be appreciated.

-balefire

***balefire*** · January 9th, 2001

oh, and here's my dxdiag info ------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 1/9/2001, 15:25:24
Machine name: Balefire
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 98 (4.10, Build 1998)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer:
System Model:
BIOS: IBM8EP6C 450V3.2
Processor: Intel Pentium II, MMX, ~348MHz
Memory: 128MB RAM
Page File: 110MB used, 1810MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 4.08.00.0400

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DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nv3disp.drv is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No input devices detected.
No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 344064 bytes
ddraw16.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 28496 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 24336 bytes
ddraw.vxd: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 30469 bytes
ddhelp.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 41984 bytes
dxapi.sys: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 2416 bytes
d3d8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1062400 bytes
d3dref8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 236544 bytes
d3dim.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 625936 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 872960 bytes
d3dref.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 140800 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 590096 bytes
d3drm.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 437008 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 107792 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 87312 bytes
dplayx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 245760 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 36864 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 77824 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 45056 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 69632 bytes
dpnet.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 237568 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 98304 bytes
dpnwsock.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 118784 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 90112 bytes
dpnmodem.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110592 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 282624 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 122880 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 184320 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 90112 bytes
dinput.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 176128 bytes
dinput8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 204800 bytes
dinput.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10874 bytes
dimap.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 102400 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 307200 bytes
vjoyd.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33361 bytes
joyhid.vxd: 4.88.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 13055 bytes
joy.cpl: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 155648 bytes
gcdef.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 249856 bytes
gchand.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6144 bytes
pid.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 40960 bytes
gameenum.sys: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 10512 bytes
hidgame.sys: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 11/27/1999 07:00:00 8880 bytes
dsound.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 455680 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1339392 bytes
dsound.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 48171 bytes
dswave.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 15360 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 176128 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 66560 bytes
dmusic.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 94208 bytes
dmusic16.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11008 bytes
dmusic32.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 28672 bytes
dmband.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 25600 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 59392 bytes
dmime.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 168960 bytes
dmloader.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 30720 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110080 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 130048 bytes
dmscript.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 78336 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 600576 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1069056 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 63488 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 52224 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.01.05.0130 English Final Retail 12/5/2000 01:56:10 425232 bytes
mciqtz.drv: 4.00.96.0729 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11776 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33792 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 167936 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 229888 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 344064 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 956416 bytes
quartz.vxd: 4.00.00.0501 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 5672 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.00.3856 English Final Retail 12/17/1999 00:30:46 252736 bytes
vidx16.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10240 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.05.0052 English Final Retail 5/7/1998 17:56:06 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.41.16.0002 English Final Retail 2/25/1998 18:24:22 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 1/23/1998 05:05:24 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 1/23/1998 05:05:24 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.1538.15.0044 English Final Retail 8/7/1998 21:39:32 739328 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.63.0038 English Final Retail 1/23/1998 05:05:26 198144 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.64.0038 English Final Retail 1/23/1998 05:05:26 181760 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.03.02.0038 English Final Retail 1/23/1998 05:05:26 139264 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 245248 bytes
ks.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 117056 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 116224 bytes
ksuser.dll: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 42016 bytes
mspclock.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4704 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6368 bytes
swenum.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 3584 bytes
mstee.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4896 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes

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Display Devices
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Card name: Graphics Blaster RIVA 128ZX
Manufacturer: Creative Labs
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_12D2&DEV_0018&SUBSYS_10191102&REV_22\ 000800
Display Memory: 8.0 MB
Current Mode: 800 x 600 (16 bit)(optimal refresh rate)
Monitor: IBM 2235 C50
Monitor Max Res: 1024,768
Driver Name: nv3disp.drv
Driver Version: 4.10.01.0272 (English)
DDI Version: 6
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/20/1998 02:14:40, 716084 bytes
Driver Certified: No
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: *vdd
Mini VDD: nv3.vxd
Mini VDD Date: , 0 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71C32-4358-11CF-A273-183087C2C935}
Vendor ID: 0x12D2
Device ID: 0x0018
SubSys ID: 0x10191102
Revision ID: 0x0022
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result:
D3D Test Result:
AGP Test Result:

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Sound Devices
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Description: ESS AudioDrive
Device ID: PCI\VEN_125D&DEV_1969&SUBSYS_8888125D&REV_01\BUS_0 0&DEV_0B&FUNC_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: SOLO.SYS
Driver Version: 4.10.00.3015 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Certified: Yes
Date and Size: 11/4/1998 21:02:28, 184228 bytes
Other Files: SOLO.SYS
Driver Provider: ESS Technology, Inc.
HW Accel Level: Full
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result:

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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\gm.dls
Version: 1.00.16.0002
Ports:
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MIDI Mapper, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
ESFM Synthesizer (2), Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 (3), Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
MPU-401 (1), Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Registry: OK
Music Test Result:

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Input Devices
-------------
Poll w/ Interrupt: Yes
Registry: OK

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Input Drivers
-------------
Registry Key: msjstick.drv<0002>
Active: Yes
DeviceID: ESS\CHILD0000\10100000
Matching DevID: *PNPB02F
16-bit Driver: msjstick.drv
32-bit Driver: vjoyd.vxd

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DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400)
DirectPlay Test Result:

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------
Age of Empires (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: Empires.Exe (0.09.13.0490)
Age of Empires Expansion (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: EmpiresX.Exe (0.04.02.0901)
Sacrifice (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: sacrifice.exe (1.00.00.0000)

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Inactive Display Entries in Registry
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None

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Inactive Sound Entries in Registry
----------------------------------
None

***IP-CSBH*** · January 9th, 2001

Try this:

1. Set your desktop to 800x600x16bit color.

2. There may be some sort of conflict with background programs. To check for this, click start, go to run, and in the run box type "msconfig". Click on the startup tab, and uncheck all the items there except "Scan Registry" and "System Tray".

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Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

***balefire*** · January 9th, 2001

My settings were already at 800x600x16bit

I did what you recommended and unchecked all but the 2 in startup after running msconfig and no change, the thaum after this run looks almost identical to the first thaum i posted on here, except a different address on one of the stacks.
Any other suggestions? Thanks.

-balefire

***IP-CSBH*** · January 9th, 2001

In dxdiag, click on the display tab and make sure that card isn't using AGP. If it is, disable it. Also, you might want to try reinstalling creative's drivers for that card now that you have DX8, or try nvidia's drivers for it :

http://www.nvidia.com/pages.nsf/pages/NVIDIA_Drivers

------------------
Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

***balefire*** · January 9th, 2001

I tried your suggestions and again nothing. the AGP _was_ enabled, but changing it didn't do anything. I loaded the game on a friend's computer to try and it works fine.

It still won't work. Thanks.

-balefire

***IP-CSBH*** · January 9th, 2001

I assume the problem is that video card. The drivers are not certified for DX7 compatibility, so you are at the mercy of the DX HAL to pick up the slack for the functions the card does not support. Try Nvidia's driver for that card, it might do the trick.

Just top be on the safe side, make sure there are not conflicts with background programs. To check for this, click start, go to run, and in the run box type "msconfig". Click on the startup tab, and uncheck all the items there except "Scan Registry" and "System Tray".

------------------
Brock Heinz
Interplay Technical Support

***balefire*** · January 9th, 2001

guess i am gonna go buy a new video card this weekend, still no difference after installing the drivers and unclicking unless there are any other suggestions.

-balefire