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When Operation Darkness is released... HONESTLY... Do the japanese even know what WWII was about? I mean for gods sakes they're tought that the holocaust didn't happen so you can pretty much guess that the basis of this game will most likely revolve around magic and super demon monsters since they have no idea what caused it or how it ended :P . The Nazi Zombies part of it is probably the only plus factor to that game, other then that, it's going to be a complete failure, i don't plan on buying a WWII game with abunch of prepubescent teens as my characters, where's the squad commander thats smoking a stogie throughout the game and sounds like he's losing his voice? I WANT ATLEAST ONE MORE GOOD WWII GAME BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE.

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Maybe the game Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway, will change your mind?

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YES! I almost forgot about that! Whens that being released again?

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what about call of Duty 5
I know thats going to be WW2

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Are you kidding me?!?! ANOTHER ONE?! Well i guess they'll have to keep them going to see how far they can get before the next one they make will be better then the 2nd one.

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Meh, its not being made by Infinity Ward, the chaps who made the original Call of Duty, CoD2 and CoD4. Treyarch made CoD:UO, CoD:BRO, and CoD3. If you've played through the series, you'll know the ones made by IW are far better than the ones Treyarch made (CoD2 > CoD3). CoD5 is also going to take place in the Pacific Theatre.

WWII games have be done to death.

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I thought COD3 was actualy pretty good.

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Maybe they are just trying to make it more of a fantasy then reality.

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But it IS a reality, which is why it's so offensive (to me atleast), and stupid, i mean it's bad enough that they've turned a very serious, very real war, in which millions died (counting civilians) in, into some stupid little anime RPG. After watching the trailer i'm also surprised to see a woman playing the part of a US soldier when the only faction in WW2 that use'd women were the russians, and for snipers.

All in all, WW2 is no place for some anime, RPG, with an unrealistic storyline (apparantly Hitler is a *Vampire*) with no relation to that of the actual war, other then the plot of people killing people. It's a mockery, it should never be released, and it's just plain wrong (for video games), i predict it will score a 6/10, the extra 5 points are for it being SOMEWHAT original.

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If you take offense to a game that attempts to portray an alternate reality for fun, then you need a serious reality check.

WW2 has a huge wealth of options and has been subject to some of the most creative ideas there is. Wolfenstein, Freedom Force vs the Third Reich (that one would make you cry) all attempt to characturise the setting in some way.

Since when were games meant to be realistic? Just because they follow a period of destruction, gives them no need to adhere to such an atmosphere. I play my games for fun, no other reason.

I actually find this funny, there was a Vietnam game a few years ago, Shellshock: Nam '67, which featured real footage of soldiers being burnt and mutated from war. When we have such material on the street, you'd figure that a comical, light hearted game would be good?

Guess not.

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Not only WWII games, COD games. There are already 8 Call of Duty games in 5 years.

Even Medal of Honor only came out with 7 games in its first 5 years.... :p

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ARE YOU SERIOUS KEEP IT MODERN OR MAKE IT FUTURISIC!

well that could make it a little different since not a lot of games i know use the pacific theatre.


there are 8 call of duty games?!?!

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Call of Duty
Call of Duty:United Offensive(actually an expansion pack)
Call of Duty: Finest Hour
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty 2:Big Red One
Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty 4.

I count seven, which one am I missing?

So far the best in my opinion have been the combination of Call of Duty and Call of Duty United Offensive. Not even CoD4 has been more fun.

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Never heard of the Wolfenstein series then. Alternate fantasy loosely based on WW2 has been around since the 1950s. Get over it.

The best WW2 game is Forgotten Hope.
Nuff said.

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World War II has been milked to death. It's teets have turned to misshaped and bruised lumps of indistinguishable flesh.

We need some alternate history or historical fiction WWII games. Hell, what about pre WWI, where you have to use a musket?

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June 3rd is the pre-release.

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Hey, I'm playing Call of Juarez lately of the highly underused and underrated western shooter genre. The virgin queen genre of all shooters that needs to be exploited more. The game's pretty good actually.

Personally I don't mind WWII games with sci fi elements or those that go for realism, as long as they're done well. RTCW was a hoot becuse it took the occult lore the Nazis were fascinated by and ran with it giving us a believable villan in one of Hitlers' most notorious generals. The elite guard babes were quite a diversion too, but added sex appeal and humor. Oh how I long for a RTCW 2.

I feel both the Pacific Theater and covert resistance forces of WWII have not been exploited nearly enough. MoH: Pacific Assault is really the only title that came close to covering the PT fairly well, but it could have done better and more thoroughly and it's mp was a disgrace.

Another aspect of WWII that has not been covered well is the many prison camps and events surrounding them. There was The Great Escape based on the movie by the same title, but oh what a horribly done game that was.

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yes i would find it intresting to use a musket.

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It would still kind of suck though. Suck in an interesting way.

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What about games about the American Civil War? I don't recall seeing such a thing. It was a pretty brutal war. I've got an uncle in California that has an antique gun collection ranging from powder loading pistols to large muskets.

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yes. it would be cool to load a musket. but it probably might take awhile.

yes the civil war would make a great story.

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You're missing Call of Duty: Roads to Victory, which was released on the PSP just last month.

So that's 8. You could say 7.5 though, I guess since UO was an expansion. But still, 8 CoD games you could pay for...

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But only 4 that I would consider quality games.

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Um, pay attention in history class? The U.S. nuked Japan. It was the Japanese who surrended, therefore ending WWII (Germany fell before Japan). So yes, the Japanese actually do know how it ended.

Well, I say it's about fucking time the WWII genre ended. More then 5 million people were killed and tortured. The most powerful countries on Earth went head-to-head in the largest war of all time. And all we do about it is pretend it was a good thing all of that happened.

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Is this game about japan? Have you seen the trailers? I was just trying to make a point.

Very rarely, if ever have i heard someone say "World War 2 was a GREAT thing that happened", mainly the only thing i ever hear out of everyones mouth is that it was a terrible tragedy. And if your trying to say that in a figurative way that games make it seem that way, they don't, and the developers of those games don't say anything close to the likes of WW2 being a good thing either, why do you think it's "You" always killing the germans? And practicaly everyone knows about World War 2 and everything, or atleast the general basis of it, so it can allow gamers to jump in already knowning all the background of everything that happened so minimal story telling is needed, i guess it would be a good money raising genre to say the least.

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well i dont think many history classes go into WWII that deeply.

how did WWII end with the japanese?

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Uh? Ever heard of the Atomic bombs, "Fat-Man" and "Little-Boy"? What about two cities known as Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Two massive nuclear explosions?

Japan does the smart thing and surrender?

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oh yea that. but wasnt their some fighting afterwards?... nevermind stupid question.

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I could a see a FPS set in the medieval age using a crossbow, wouldn't work that well because I would assume you just shot in one big unit, there aren't many superpowered individuals running around medieval England.

I know in the . . 9th century, I think, the Chinese invented gunpowder and put it to use in the battlefield. They had dragon rocket launchers. No gun can top that. However, they were relatively ineffective and used mostly for psychological use, then again, so was Greek Fire, but it's still practical.

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Any American should know about the difficulty and longevity of fighting the Japanese in WWII. Maybe those abroad don't due to different schooling, but most Americans definitely know. The Pacific Theater started with the biggest US military surrender in history at the Bataan peninsula in the Phillipines.

Play the game MoH: Pacific Assault and watch the bonus disc which has interviews with American Pacific Theater vets from WWII if you want to know how severely Japan impacted the US in WWII. The battle at Tarawa alone was quite brutal. Considering how significant the Pacific Theater was, I don't feel it's been represented enough in WWII games.

Lots of people talk as if we brutally bombed Japan into oblivion, but the truth is it was very hard just to get planes in far enough to do the initial carpet boming which was not effective enough to stop the war in itself. The A bomb was always a last resort, several times the emporor was asked to surrender before that and he would not comply until we nuked em.

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thats all good but what about people who arnt in america that will not be that interesed in ur civil war what about our civil war or the french or any of the others around the world

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Well I just said that it seems like people pretend that WWII was a good thing, because they make a lot of money off of the genre.

I do get your point though.

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LOL, not trying to exclude anyone dude, chill out. There are tons of games made of subjects specific to one region or country. Did you hear a lot of Germans and Russians whining when they made Paciifc Theater games saying, "Hey, we were in WWII too ya know!"

Anyways, I did some checking and found out there have been Civil War games made but they mostly have been crappy value games.

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what were the names of those civil war games?

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History Channel Civil War

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MadMinute Games, Inc.

Only Civil War game worth getting.

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i no about that im just saying that there are other civil wars that could be used. a large numbe rof game devs are us and they make games orientated to the us of a but that can narrow down the market.

you dont think that the brits feel bad that most wwII games are american orientated :S

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They should make a Civil War game that goes through with different campaigns to play, each as a different nation. So say you have 10 campaigns they could have French, Britain, American, Austrian, Roman and stuff like that. Revolutions from different times periods would make the game unique, though if they did make a game like that it would require a powerful engine depending on how ranged they made the time line. The engine would have to support the older gameplay such as Romans and Greeks revolutions, and it would also have to follow 16th-20th century revolutions. They could also through in a revolution they made by themselves...

Another game maybe worth getting that follows the American Civil War is called American Civil War Gettysburg...

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I used GameRankings.com and searched for Civil War. The most common ones for PC are the History Channel one, which got poor reviews on PC, and American Civil War: From Sumter to Appomattox, which rates 79% but appears to be a simple mouse click strategy game. It's also a very old game, 1996 release.With all due respect to the Brits whom gave their lives in WWII, I would think the Russians would be even more upset that most WWII games focus on Americans because they lost more troops than any of the allied forces, over 20,000,000.

Games are always going to be slanted by those whom make them, it's just the way it is. Many of the best British battles pre WWII were short lived because the Brits had such a strong naval force, though I really don't think you'd like to see a game about the Revolutionary War, despite what dev team were to make it.

There are always going to be unsung heroes, that's why I think even WWII games haven't been fully exploited. There were very brave resistance forces from many countries that were vital to the war effort against the Nazis. Also, there were many snipers not given due credit like the Scottish Ghillies that trained the Brits how to stealth snipe and the many Russian women whom were expert snipers.

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hopefully someone will go with different parts of the war like Italy and North Africa

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we definatly need to see more none american based wwII games the german side could be very interesting to see maybe but not sure how that mite work.

the russians should be shown as they had some veyr intense battle stalingrad anyone

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I was really bummed when I heard the volunteer modding project expansion of CoD2 Rise of the Resistance was cancelled after they'd spent about 9 months on it. Hopefully the French team of modders that picked it up can finish it. It's about the many resistance forces whom fought in WWII.

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Or a game company could be original and interesting by using some other motherfucking era besides World War 2.

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Yes, WWII games definitely need to be about different sides OTHER THAN the U.S. From what I've seen here, it seems to me that a few of us here learned about World War II from playing video games rather than from books or school or something.

News Flash: The United States did not do all of the awesome stuff in WWII.

:eek:

I agree, there needs to be a WWII game based on Russia. After all, the Battle for Stalingrad was... epic, to say the least. Besides, it was the Russians who invaded Germany, not France or the U.S. or some other country, in case you didn't know.

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Lol, yea, that's because the germans attacked Russia after they had signed an alliance with them. BTW, in one of the call of duty's you play a couple missions as a russian, in fact in all of the COD's you play as different factiosn.

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Call of Duty splits you pretty evenly between U.S., British, and Russian in CoD 1, UO, and 2 at least. There are also other Russian vs Germans games. Red Orchestra is the first one that comes to mind, but also games like BF1942 had Russia in the game.

Russia and Britain are hardly unacknowledged anymore.

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I mean that someone should make a game just focusing on, say, the Russians, as opposed to half-and-half.

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Red Orchesta is all the Russian front.

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Do what? That link you sent never stops loading. Sooooo, is that like a virus site or something?

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It's a spambot or something.

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