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crisissuit3 April 13th, 2008 11:11 PM

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has anyone played faces of war? if not ill be glad to explain.

nanobot_swarm April 14th, 2008 12:55 PM

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I want some games about Nam and Korea

gravy666 April 14th, 2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nanobot_swarm (Post 4304984)
I want some games about Nam and Korea

No, I doubt it. Too many people who fought in Vietnam are still alive today. I know at least 2 Nam veterans. For those people, it wouldn't seem right to them for their kids to be playing a game based on a war that they fought in. By the time we are their age, we probably be making those games.

It's the same deal as with WWII. So many people were killed and tortured, and years later, all we do is try to make money off of it. We have people denying that the Holocaust ever happened, which is just making it harder for people to take in the fact that WWII and the Holocaust actually happened. The WWII games are only helping that.

Okay, I went off topic a bit there. The thing is, WWII games, in fact any game based on war, encourages war. It's why saying that the government secretly makes war-based games is plausible. I've heard more then enough stories saying that playing violent games helps people cope with the whole "killing dudes" thing. And it makes war seem not as bad, a.k.a. encouraging people to enlist "because war is fun."

What I'm trying to say is that war-based games are not good. Even if they are fun, in the long run, they have an effect on the people playing them.

Captain Fist April 14th, 2008 03:18 PM

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That is one of the stupidest ideas I've heard of. We're not trying to just try to make a buck of it, ever think that the creators might just have a lot of fulfillment making the games? Whoever said we should forget war? We should move on, and accept that it happened, not fucking deny and try to forget about it. It's a part of culture and part of identity. Gamers don't decide if we should go to war, politicians do, we don't go to war on a whim, despite how much satirists say we do, we have a reason. "Government making war games plausible." Where the fuck did you get idea from? The only game I can think as part of the government is America's Army, I honestly don't think Call of Duty was designed by some mother fucker in Washington.

Violence is fucking fun. Every game is based on violence. Pac Man eats ghosts, Mario smashes turtles, Heihachi knocks mother fuckers out. Games do not make psychos out of people, your starting to sound like Hilary Clinton. If someone does butcher a kitten and drink the soul of a baby, chances are they were unstable in the first place. The game only contributed to it. We all play games, none of us are batshit crazy war nuts. They effect the people playing by making them interested in military history and guns. Big whoop.

Kangster April 14th, 2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crisissuit3 (Post 4297977)
ARE YOU SERIOUS KEEP IT MODERN OR MAKE IT FUTURISIC!


well that could make it a little different since not a lot of games i know use the pacific theatre.




there are 8 call of duty games?!?!

No don't keep it modern. One does not know the entire story of the Second World War.

I want a game based on a futuristic setting BUT with a different story. I want a story based on Call of Duty's slogan... "No one fights alone". I want something similar to Brothers in Arms where it shows that each soldier were looking out for each other and in each war theres a hero. I want some Brothers in Arms kind of music also in the game as it will show gamers that no matter what war... theres always a sense of sanity and not violence...

gravy666 April 14th, 2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihaterednecks (Post 4305184)
That is one of the stupidest ideas I've heard of. We're not trying to just try to make a buck of it, ever think that the creators might just have a lot of fulfillment making the games? Whoever said we should forget war? We should move on, and accept that it happened, not fucking deny and try to forget about it. It's a part of culture and part of identity. Gamers don't decide if we should go to war, politicians do, we don't go to war on a whim, despite how much satirists say we do, we have a reason. "Government making war games plausible." Where the fuck did you get idea from? The only game I can think as part of the government is America's Army, I honestly don't think Call of Duty was designed by some mother fucker in Washington.

Violence is fucking fun. Every game is based on violence. Pac Man eats ghosts, Mario smashes turtles, Heihachi knocks mother fuckers out. Games do not make psychos out of people, your starting to sound like Hilary Clinton. If someone does butcher a kitten and drink the soul of a baby, chances are they were unstable in the first place. The game only contributed to it. We all play games, none of us are batshit crazy war nuts. They effect the people playing by making them interested in military history and guns. Big whoop.

No no no, that's not my point. I didn't explain well enough above.

What I mean is that, well two things:
War-based video games:
-are not respecting the dead (people died to protect their countries, and we make money off of the wars they fought in).
-encourage the idea that war is fun.

You said something about not forgetting about wars, but also just accepting that they are real and they happen constantly. The problem with war-based video games is that they acknowledge that wars happen, but make them seem like a good thing. Seriously, selling video games to young kids/adults based on wars can't be made to sound good, especially to the people who busted their arses to protect their peoples' freedom. You cannot deny that fact.
On a side note, why do you think Call of Duty 4 doesn't have anything to do with the war in Iraq?

If that didn't get my opinion across, I guess you don't appreciate history as much as I do.

But yes, violence in games is very fun. Even though I sound "anti-war" in that above wall of text, I'd rather play a violent game than have those games banned or whatever (just trying to express myself here, of course COD games won't be banned).

Captain Fist April 14th, 2008 09:14 PM

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I never actually played enough of a single war game to know if they glorify war or not.

crisissuit3 April 14th, 2008 11:04 PM

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well one game that actually made me thing about WWII was medal of honor european assault. for before each mission a elderly man would start talking about the harshness of war. and that made me think a little.

Captain Fist April 14th, 2008 11:36 PM

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They should make a World War II game where you play as a dirty peasant living in a South Asian village and your job is hunt down, Rambo-Style, Japanese soldiers and get them to spring elaborate trap mechanisms consisting of guns that should barbed wire. And eventually you lead a village full of muddy peasants against them in a narrow victory leaving only you and your half-dead love interest and two random villagers no one gives a rat's ass about.

nanobot_swarm April 15th, 2008 12:48 PM

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theres always WW1


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