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*Pouts*I cant even play on the net until AEA week,when we move into our newlybuilt house and I dO get net access on this comp.(I've only had this comp since X-mas,and my dad didn't feel like running wire and all that crap).But once we move in...I'ma play all these friggin maps! http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif Anyways...PsychicT,wheres that pic of yer PWF map?Can you tell me?Heck...does anyone have any pics of there maps?If so..post!For the sake of everyone! ~My ramblings ------------------ God of Destruction "The French will rule the world!" "Oh boy,not another crazy frenchman..." |
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I should have decided to just go to bed. Well, since I force myself to check the forum, I'm going to upload my Beautiful Sunset map ASAP and hopefully people can play it. I thought it was nice... it was different... meaning, it wasn't pattern based. Maybe Player 3 had to be a bit more balanced, but I found it fun, that's the important thing. The contest, my map... life in general. Danziger :^) P.S. I BETTER WIN THAT TWINKIE!!! |
My map didnt make it in.. it was really well designed.. i spent well over 150 hours on it, and another 8 or 10 in-game testing. Anyways... Its Called "Peaks of Empyrea", i sent it to SacrificeCenter, So if ya want, grab it.. maybe someone will appreciate all the work that went into it... Holy crap, 150. Well I went straight to Sacrifice Center to download the result of this amazing effort, and was inextricably bogged down in the map-listing system. I can only look at page one and search doesn't work, what's that about? That used to be the map source that actually worked for me... gah. Well if you put your map up somewhere else, Earn, I for one will try it. :] PS: Danziger you rule. |
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I've been posting for over a year... it's about time I rule something! Here's my link to my map (I had to zip it because the upload caused bad CRCs... ???... I think that's the term... so usually zipping stuff solves that problem... don't ask me why) http://uk.y42.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc...view=l&.last=1 Right click on the file and download it and unzip it into your maps directory. Have fun! Beautiful Sunset was intended for a tribute to Poopsie that never took off until this contest came along. I know... I should have used Percy... but James was my favourite tileset (I hope Pyro doesn't hear about this.) I forgot who made the James tileset, so kudos to him, too. Danziger :^) |
Oh well, I didn't win. Damn. Oh well, I wasn't expecting too, considering the competition I was up against. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif Good job to all the winners, I'm sure your maps are great, and I look forward to playing them. TheMad ------------------ The light at the end of the tunnel has been shut down due to budget cuts. |
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SO TRUE! GREAT POINT! I LOVE YOU! muhahahahaha! /me plots his revenge ------------------ DK-gabeybaby www.dknights.net #sacrifice irc.enterthegame.com |
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I've been looking at all the maps that shiny has judged "good" and i have found that they display one similar feature, they all some how collide in the middle. My favorite map is Alpine Meadows because the battle can take place on three fronts. No one really is sure which it is going to be and the souls are slightly out of the way(not directly in the middle). I happene to dislike maps like Hamburger Hill and to some extent that map "F******* Revisited" i cant remember the name...it was 4 player. Anyways, so i built my maps to have some originality in them, i dont want MOFS(more of the same). i think fights in the middle call for little strategy and quicker reflexes than any thing. I also thought that too much symmetry in the objects, laid out on the landscape, was boring. layout symmetry was important but i dont like getting lost on a map that is totally symmetrical. i tried to make them "realistic" i added variety and realsim and promoted the use of teleportation(my favorite spell) in them. argh! i care not that i didn't win at all, but that the maps that i have seen nominated just seem like MOFS. IMO that stinks :/ I really hope that the winning map is deservingly so. hell, i'll vote for Excilus' map if it is rightfully so. I just hope that the winning map isn't a formula ----------------------------- one manlith in front of alter for base guadrding. one manlith between that and the contact point for added mana supply. four manaliths, souls and creatures at the contact point to fight over. ----------------------------- yea the winner of the game controls the middle. weeeeee! ------------------ DK-gabeybaby www.dknights.net #sacrifice irc.enterthegame.com [This message has been edited by gabeybaby (edited 03-07-2001).] |
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I hope we separate the artist from the art, but since I entered that contest... that's like an attack on me, so I hope that 4 map winner guy knows how to backstep! But I'll judge the final maps on an extreme unbiased note (which is hard because we all like different types of maps based on design). I agree with gabeybaby. I thought originality was part of the judging? If those potential finalists all converge in the middle... how original is that? I haven't seen the maps... but I tried to make a map that was nothing like the maps you have already played yet still playable, which is extremely hard to do. It's not easy designing a map related to who has what characters. The landscape I created was totally based on strategic purposes. If you download my Beautiful Sunset map... I think Player 2 has 1 dragons and 2 mini dragons... which are quite powerful creatures to have... so that guy would have less manafounts in his area compared to the other ones... as well... he's on a mountain, plus other stuff like a cut-off point, so he can't automatically rush Player 3... which has more mana fountains, but not as strong creatures. Player 1 probably has the most creatures, but he could be attacked by two flanks???... so he should be extremely careful not to venture out in the wrong direction. Player 3 must convert a lot of souls the most, and build the most manaliths, but doesn't face too many obstacles as do the other two at the start of the game. That's all I can say about my map right now. Danziger :^) P.S. Oh yeah, there are "player traps" where if you step in the wrong areas... or forced into one unknowingly by one of the players... you might feel a bit of pain by the neutral creatures... the sand trap, or the devil's trap by the mountain, or at the "Shrine Du Poopsie"... the one with the Pyrodactyls at the base, although it would be pretty hard to miss that. Also... Player 3's area is like a labyrinth while Player's 1 area has one direct but hard to reach to point and Player's 2 area would be the hardest to sneak attack upon. Once again, I've spent a lot of time on designing of the map so that it balances out because I wanted to do an "assymmetrical?" map that has a pattern, but you just can't actually see it. Afterall, the real world (for nature, that is) has no pattern... it's not laid out by humans... nature has its land based on weather patterns, or geological formations. I could go on about "ultra-realism"... I wonder how many people did 256x256 maps? It takes a long time! Once again, I chose that size because I don't see too many multiplayer maps that size... once again... tried to be original. I hope the judges didn't pick the maps according to the maps they had maded, or played. They should judge purely on the criteria *AND* the human eye. Judge it if you haven't seen Sacrifice before and decide on a gameplaying viewpoint, not a gamemaking one. Don't let technicalities get in the way of the big picture. But that's just me. |
One of my maps (Lost city of Ice) made it to the contest, though I'm disappointed my other two did not. They were pretty good I thought, and not all symmetrical as some people say about the maps that made it. I wonder if that's one of the main factors that decided which maps would make it into the finalists (so that it would be equal for all sides). Anyway, I've sent my two maps that didn't make it to SacrificeCenter. Can you check them out and tell me what you think, especially compared to maps that made it into the contest for those of you who have played some? I also want to ask Shiny something. Were the maps chosen so that there would be an equal amount of Charnel-Pers.-Stratos-James-Pyro maps? |
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LOL! ------------------ Waxax aka TrollBoss |
er...Excilus, aren't you too young to enter the contest (13 as you said)...I personnaly call this cheating. I'm amazed that shiny didn't react to this. |
Why did you have to be 18+ to enter the contest? Otherwise, this was cool, do it again some time! ------------------ M'kay? |
well that's what shiny wrote here...http://www.sacrifice.net/map-contest-legal.htm. It said: "Entrants must be at least 18 years of age to submit a Derivative Level. Any Entrant that Interplay, in its sole and absolute discretion, suspects may be under the age of 18 shall be automatically disqualified." |
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I agree...exept that the terms and conditions were very clear: No one under 18. I don't remember Shiny officialy saying that you could get someone else to enter for you, but even so I don't think they meant that you could publicly anounce that you were in fact under-aged. Anyway, there are very precise terms and conditions and I don't think it is fair that someone who is violating one of the terms of the contest gets four maps selected. Someone not eligible for the contest...is just NOT eligible, no matter how good his/her maps are. |
To Excil: I told you so! http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif To Technodrill: Hey loooks like your siege warfare map impressed the judges. http://www.veforums.com/biggrin.gif Good luck to the finalists, those have to be some fine maps to get this far. |
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I agree with Teugnol. Nothing against anybody but, rules are rules. Excilus if you get dis-qed, which I think is only fair, it's your own fault. You should have kept your mouth shut. paks ------------------ Paksman-MTK- Geomancer to the Bone "It's time to take back what's mine." -James |
I was fricken helping Tim!!! Push off! |
I am not jealous, I didn't even submit any maps. AND I don't hate you. Your maps may be great, this is not the problem. You are not 18 and I think it's not fair on other finalists. |
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Woohoo!! I made it. Maybe not to the real final but one can hope http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif ------------------ tmfm2000, evil http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/019.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/018.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/030.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/027.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/007.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/029.gif #sacrifice @ irc.enterthegame.com |
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Yeah Teugnol, get off his back. The only reason they have an age restriction is for legal reasons. DocX stated several times that you should find an elder sibling, parent, bumm off the street who is of age as your front so that you can still enter even though you are younger. It is not unfair to the competition, it is just that you need someone to sign a contract for you if you are not of age. *Carry on folks, there's nothing to see here. Move along!* |
for god sake Excilus, stop insulting me. It doesn't matter how good you are. It's a contest and rules are rules. I don't think we should make exeptions for anyone. If you think it's not fair to get disqualified because you are not 18, read the Terms and conditions again : "Entrants must be at least 18 years of age to submit a Derivative Level ". Read it again. You are breaking one of the rules of the contest. I didn't make them, Shiny did, and they are meant to be followed. |
mwahahahahhahahaha, all you fools pouring your hearts and sould into Scapex, all for trying to win a good computer. Well it is all in vain! My inside contact at Shiny has already "removed" the PC and it is currently en route to my home. Mwahahahahahahahahahaha Its mine!!!!!! P.S. j/k, I'm just bitter because my map didn't make it onto the list (most likely because I didn't make one http://www.veforums.com/tongue.gif) ------------------------------ More than meets the eyes, Hoppy's in disguise! |
Agreed Harry V. Anybody who thinks otherwise should do a search and look at the original message. I believe MissM also ratified the fact that an older family member would be able to enter someones map on their "unofficial" behalf. The only manner you could be disqualified from the contest is if your map was not your intellectual property. Rules are rules and shiny has already set them out. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif |
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Shiny has made a suggestion, as a result it is not very likely to be breaking the rules they themselves set out. The 18 age limit is not a limit on the author but instead a limit on the entrant following interplays legal requirements. Excil is perfectly within his rights to the prize so long he has not lied. Which he has not. Leave this topic alone as its totally within Shiny's domain. Considering he is already a finalist with several maps I would conclude they have already made their decision. |
right...but they didn't know the author was not 18. |
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You're just being immature. What do you care if Excilus is under 18, the fact is he did a great map, and managed to enter the contest. Seriously, you are really acting as if you're jealous of him. |
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Excilus: I made the Battlefield map. Atleast I think I did, cause I haven't got any email notification. http://www.veforums.com/frown.gif But I made a Battlefield map and that's for sure. ------------------ tmfm2000, evil http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/019.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/018.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/030.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/027.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/007.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/icw/029.gif #sacrifice @ irc.enterthegame.com |
Is it all you can do, why did you tell me to shut up ; very smart indeed and so constructive ; obiously how you get rid of people who don't agree with you. Anyway, I got that point all right before you told me; the problem here is that our little friend said clearly that he is under-aged, that someone else submited his maps, his father lied by entering the contest with maps what were not his own. I don't actualy care wether he wins or not, I am not jealous, I didn't submit a map.I just said it wasn't fair on other people. The fact that someone else could enter the contest with other people maps was not stated in the terms and conditions. Rules are meant to be followed and they have not been followed. Now if Shiny is on your side... |
Shiny *should* be on that kid's side. So, I suggest you leave that particular topic alone because it's starting to sound a lot like hot air. The entrant must be 18 years of age or older... that's the person who submits the map to the contest. If it was his dad, it should be fine. Danziger :^) P.S. I'm ok with this kid entering the contest. He should not be disqualified based on a technicality. If the guy has... what... 4 of his maps entered... and he is 13 years old... that's hard to accomplish (AND HE IS IN UNIVERSITY... geez... I'm surprised he has time for Sacrifice... hehhe... good luck whatever career you choose, dude. I'm sure you have lots of talent beyond Scapex... grin.) |
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Excilus, calm down. Congratulations on the University thingie.... but who cares??? There were a LOT of players who didnt even enter the contest because they were 17 under.Probably they forgot about the detail you so effectively used in your favour, but they didnt have even a chance to start. Because they respected rules as they were. Now, since you are such a Brainiac, you always try to solve the challenge with a different solution. I dont call that cheating. I call that bending. But bending rules is risky, and people that never bend the rules, who accept them how they are probably didnt even start to make maps, just because they were 16. If i was under 18, i would have not entered the contest, because the rules said the entrant had to be 18. Clear your mind, and by the way, its not so good being 13 and a universitarian.... Your youth will be spoiled... but a clever mind always seeks for greater challenges then those of sharing your youth with people the same age, right? Just be cool, if you win, its ok, if you get disqualified.... Tough luck... i mean, happens to everybody! Now please shut up about the contest guys, i also spent 100+ hours in a map i did, and so what, who cares, lets all just play Sacrifice and slaughter digital creatures mmmmm K? |
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I think most replies are quite funny, and these replies should also be interpretated that way...*funny* I don't think it is all about winning or losing. It is about having fun and some nice competition. It is about getting us, the Sacrifice Gamers, some really good maps. It [contest] was/is an initiative/reason to learn making maps with Scapex for Sacrifice. Even if you haven't won, you still have made US happy with your map... *Thank you for that* Please no more flames...so that this thread doesn't need to be closed *Thank you* http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif |
*Whistles for Idol* Jolly good show! Oh and on this age thingy,not a flame but I think Excilus was right to do what he did. BTw,even if he was too young...Shiny is not going to disqualify him if he made 4 maps that are in the contest. Or...atleast I dun think so.... http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif ~Just my ramblings... ------------------ God of Destruction "The French will rule the world!" "Oh boy,not another crazy frenchman..." |
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w00t! FAST N00BI3 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.veforums.com/biggrin.gif (just noticed http://www.veforums.com/biggrin.gif) |
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