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Old September 3rd, 2007   #101
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Firstly, about the site. I was poking fun at you. I said I could find it, and you came with the link. You found it for me, thus me finding it!

Secondly, Cloud = not a clone. He was just a boy with Jenova cells, standard SOLDIER procedure is all. I odn't know about Kadaj and the rest of the remnants.

Its better to say that they are a bit of an offspring of Sephiroth, I guess. But those weren't cells, he infused himself with her head.


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Wow, did you get that wrong. Cloud never was in SOLDIER, but his friend Zack was. In the game Cloud even stated that he had mixed up the stories his friend Zack told him with stuff he had seen, hence the rather jumbled up memory. And he was a clone, which Hojo also stated, but noted that Cloud was a failed experiment. But yh, you are right about the fact that it was her head (or what was left of it, Rufus nailed that thing)

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I know, I'm saying that getting infused with Jenova cells is standard SOLDIER procedure. I know that Zack was in SOLDIER. Zack is who he got everything mixed up with, when you find all this out and disc 2, and can later see what all happened in the basement. The buster sword is Zacks sword.

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But I do remember the failed experiment part. But I still don't think Cloud was an actual Clone. I mean, he had a mom, a childhood all that. Its not clicking for me.

My big FF7 question was if all of Clouds story was messed up, why the fuck didn't Tifa remember anything? I know she got sliced, but rarely does that result in memory lost.


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Maybe Tifa went on drugs, lol. And sry, but the way you said that Cloud was in SOLDIER, i honestly thought you had no idea, but can you blame me? And yes, he had a mom, and childhood, but he was injected with the cells a while later.

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I know, he was human, he wasn't a clone, but he was meant to be like Seph. And I can't blame you, I re-read my post and I did type that pretty wrong.


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when ever hojo says hes a clone hes talking about being a perfect solider like seph a clone in that sense not a clone as it same person. and getting showered in mako is standard procedure for solider not janova cells. cloud got those when he was in the mako tank 1 to save his live and 2 to try and make him like seph. Also tifa dose remember she says she went along with it in fear of making cloud go away if she reviled the truth. she tells you that after seph shows everyone zach.

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"Final Fantasy 7 throws the term 'Clone' around loosely… In this game, a 'Clone' means to inject someone with someone else's cells and Mako to make that person more like the person they want to Clone. Confusing?
There are 2 types of 'Clones' in FF7… Sephiroth Clones, and Jenova Clones. Jenova Clones were the first Clones created… Sephiroth himself is one… Which hints that all the Jenova Clones were cloned from birth (If there are more than just Sephiroth)
The Sephiroth Clones were created after Cloud threw Sephiroth over the bridge in Mt. Nibel… If I remember correctly, these Clones are the ones with the tattoos. All the clones with tattoos are clearly much older than 5, which proves that they were not created from birth after the events in Mt. Nibel. Think about it, Cloud was in a tube in Nibelheim for 5 years… Why? Simple, Hojo was making him into a Sephiroth Clone… Hojo saved Cloud… But he changed him forever. Cloud didn't complete the Cloning procedure; he escaped with Zack before Hojo finished. This explains why Cloud doesn't wear a black cape, and why Cloud doesn't have a tattoo… " I just copied all that from a site on google, i think that pretty much sums it up.

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when ever hojo says hes a clone hes talking about being a perfect solider like seph a clone in that sense not a clone as it same person. and getting showered in mako is standard procedure for solider not janova cells. cloud got those when he was in the mako tank 1 to save his live and 2 to try and make him like seph. Also tifa dose remember she says she went along with it in fear of making cloud go away if she reviled the truth. she tells you that after seph shows everyone zach.

Yeah, I know..... getting a little mixed up. I remembered all that except the Tifa part. I recall her going back with Cloud once he washed up in that town on disc 2, and I remember him apologizing to his gang once he got himself back, I just didn't remember what Tifa said.

I loved Tifa's slap fight.


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Oh, you mean the slap fight against Scarlet? Yh, that was pretty sick. Just the sound of them bitch slapping each other back and forth was just really amusing.

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Yeah that one.... there are plenty of moments in FF7 that just made me explode in laughter.


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