How to have FUN in Sacrifice (**Shameless cutscene promotion thread**)
 

<H1>Unfortunately, no one can be told how to have fun in Sacrifice. You have to <a href="http://members.nbci.com/mysacmaps/troll.html">see it for yourself.</a> http://www.veforums.com/wink.gif </h1>

Yes people, it is finally done. My next and newest cutscene following my <a href="http://members.nbci.com/mysacmaps/index.html">Budweiser Whassup parody cutscene map</a> is finally done.

It is called The Brokenhearted Troll.

It features content you never thought you'd be seeing in Sacrifice.

<u>It breaks boundaries and sets new milestones for future Sacrifice map creation.</u>

It reminds you to be all that you can be.

It (blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...)

All of this is available to you for the new low low price of <u>3.5 megs of hard drive space</u>, and however long it takes your 14.4, 28.8., 56k, Cable Modem, DSL, T1, T3, or OC3 connection to download it.

Ok, I think you've been persuaded enough here. <A href="http://members.nbci.com/mysacmaps/troll.html">Click here</a> to download The Brokenhearted Troll, a cutscene "watch only" scenario map that features tons and I literally means TONS of added sound clips, has its own background music that plays, and will hopefully inspire you to create CUTSCENES so that I can actually watch someone else's creation for a change.

Enjoy it, you little imps.

And try to have some FUN for christ's sake!! http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

"You gonna do the girl thing...you gonna act all happy....and you gonna be poutin on the inside"

"I am not a bitch....am I?"

ROFLMAOSBOMN

Honorable mention for the boobies and the peepee LOL

And

The balance one is sure to stir up some controversy LOL

Nice work Jesta...definitely got a few good laughs out of that one http://www.veforums.com/biggrin.gif

will Sacrifice really crash if I won't turn of the music?

Wow Jesta, you did it again. *bowing my head really low, actually kneeling, in respect*

Idolater: Sometimes it crashed on the two machines I tested it on, which are PIII 850 w/GeForce 2 GTS and a Diamond Monster MX300 as well as an Athlon 650 w/Voodoo 3 and Sound Blaster Live.

I am not *positive* it will crash on yours, but it happened on mine a lot, not to mention the incredibly crummy quality sound you hear when the game's background music and the cutscene's background music play at the same exact time.

Lastly, there was no way for me to perfectly use the game's background music to relate it with the cutscene (not to mention that when there is "battle music" the game randomaly chooses between 5 clips), so that is why I had to include music in the cutscene itself since I believe those sound excerpts were more approriate for the scenes. On another technical note, there was NO way to make sudden music interruptions like you saw in my cutscene unless I used my own music.

So for the sake of the quality of the cutscene and to make a long story short, just disable music in the sound options menu. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Jesta (edited 01-26-2001).]

Pretty good stuff overall .... my favorite was the beginning when the troll was bouncing to the beat of The Turtles "Happy Together" ..... ;^")*

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Smurph It Down!!(tm)

That was funny....

BALANCE THIS!

Tim

OMG your scenario was really funny and hilarious!!!

The crying baby was PRETTY annoying. I have expected that "balance part" though! http://www.veforums.com/wink.gif

These things makes Sacrifice really great and the possibilities are really endless.

...well atleast you didn't make fun of me that much; other than the little sorcha part I found it pretty funny and I'd love to see more
Jesta: I hope we can someday patch things up... if your willing of course.
Heh, I thought I'd be Sara Bella or something http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif




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btw I agree with the second fallen from the right, 2nd line...

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I hereby hand an academy award to Jesta for a truely epic comedy/tradegy.
Oh my, I'm so glad Jesta found such an entertaining way to rant on...and on ..and on ...and on!! http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif
Also noticed in Somegirl and Gabeybaby made a guest appearence in your latest piece of work. I suppose someone has to argue violently with you for that honour.
Anyway good job and my suggestion for your next piece (probably entitled Nerf Wars where an unlikely chewbacca is armed with an apparently dangerous foam projectile weapon)
that you may get some original voice overs in, perhaps from the guys/girl around here!
Tell you what Shivoa and me can do the voice of the architypal evil English guys who try to subducate the whole universe ....hows that grab ya!!! http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

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I know wav files are very large.. yet you managed to put all those clips in along with the music in a mere 3500kb... Were those clips 11khz mono 8bit or something?

I think the only clips that were 11khz mono 8bit were the clips that were used for the gods speeches. Other than that, the music and the other clips were all 22khz mono 8bit.

I was originally planning on releasing a version with higher quality (because most of the clips were 22khz stereo 16bit/8bit and the music was all 44khz stereo 16bit), but after I tried both versions I found that it was almost impossible to hear the difference since there was so much going on in the cutscene.

And while we are talking about the sound clips, another thing you might want to know is that since the music was pretty loud, I had to increase the volume of just about all of the sound clips otherwise it would have been nearly impossible to hear them. When you tell Scapex to play a sound clip while another one is already playing, it causes the one that is already playing to fade a little. But in the case of the music files, it was still pretty loud even when it was faded, so I had no choice but to increase the volume of just about all of the sound clips. That's why some of them may sound a little too loud when you play them individually inside of Scapex.

The down side is, you can usually hear static or something else in the background of the sound clips that you wouldn't hear normally unless you set your speaker volume all the way up.

Ah well, that was something I couldn't avoid unless I decreased the volume of the music, but I thought the music was more important so I did it the other way around.

/me grimaces and commends Jesta

Wow... I havent been following the flame wars but I am impressed with scapex's movie creating abilities!

The one quam I had was with how discursive it all was (like the gos just popping in to say quotes...)

also it would have been funnier if you somehow used the actual voices of the gods for cuts either by having them say things out of place (e.g. Stratos' "mmm-mm-mn-mm-mm-mm" right after a raunchy scene) or if you could with audio tools take diferent parts of quotes and put em together (that would be hard though). Oh! wasn't the voice of stratos in some horror movie? if so maybe you could use that?

all in all I would have to say my fav scene was the opening troll dance... (it reminded me of the Super Smash Bros comercial)

keep up the good work!

Oldies are funny. Especially when heard in the context of battle. Pretty funny, Jesta, but I was confused by the ending. I guess I just haven't been here long enough to understand it. Keep up the good work.

TheMad

Great movie jesta...i found the somegirl bashing to be pretty damn funny =)

Procrustes: The clip you heard of Stratos was from the movie Dogma. When the god interlude was over, and you hear the Troll say, "Kiss me before you go, for I love you," that sound clip was from Tim Curry (the actor who did the voice of Stratos) in the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

After I looked at the flashback scene a few times, I didn't know why I threw that in there either at first. I was really just testing the gods' different videos (they have 3 different ones..happy angry and normal) with a sound clip that I felt was approriate for each god, and was planning on taking them out after testing them, but then after I watched the cutscene like that, I realized that it added a lot of humor to the thing, so I stuck with it just to suddenly take you off the "serious attitude" of the cutscene. If you saw how this thing was a week ago, you wouldn't have been laughing at all. There was some stuff that I got rid of because it wasn't funny at all and was down right offensive, made the whole thing feel like a serious and sick cutscene. So in other words, that expermineting I did with the sudden god interlude was what gave me the whole idea to make the whole thing humorous.

It just got to a point where the ratio of humor to seriousness was 10 to 90, and that is not the type of person I am or what I wanted to see, and after I tested out those spontaneous god clips, it gave me the idea to edit the whole thing and fill it with wise cracks and jokes in order to get rid of the gloomy serious tone it had before. The revenge portion of the cutscene really doesn't have much humor in it at all, and I left it the way it was to show you that I was aiming for 90% humor and 10% seriousness.

If the Sacrifice campaign were more like Giants single player, I would have liked it a lot more. Giants had a slight touch of serious in it and was majority humor, while Sacrifice was vice versa.

Now that I think about it some more, the best reason why I left the god interlude in there was probably to inform you not to take the Troll's situation that seriously. (Like finding out your special someone is cheating on you and then getting the idea of killing off his/her family for revenge, if you know what I mean, hehe.. http://www.veforums.com/wink.gif)

Hell, I know a ton of things that I could have done to make it better, but I got to a point where I was tired of deciding what to put in and what to get rid of, and after watching this verison, it turned out to have the equal balance of everything that I wanted, so I decided to release it and call it a day. I wanted several flashbacks instead of just one (including a wedding scene between the Sylph and the Troll), but I had to take size into consideration since you have to remember this is a nonplayable map, and I thought making the map any bigger than it currently is was just not fair for people who weren't really interested in a cutscene in the first place.

To tell you the truth, this cutscene was really just an inspirational type of thing about fun. I mean, if I really wanted to make an epic long 20 meg movie that showed the chronology of their relationship, I probably would have, but this cutscene was something I was doing on the side while playing Sacrifice and coming to these forums, so I chose the 7 minute ad approach. At one point in time, and I even mentioned this to everyone last week or so, the community on this forum completely "disrupted" (or is it disgusted?) me from even wanting to do anymore cutscenes at all, but then when I finally got over that crap (or did I? http://www.veforums.com/tongue.gif), I decided to completely toss out some of those small extra things I was going to do in the cutscene, and replaced them with the forum bashing footage just to show people what I thought about the whole situation from a week or two ago.

So this might explain to you why you get the feeling that some of the content on the cutscene seems like it "could have been better" ..... or maybe a better choice of words would have been, "stripped away by some forum issues I had to address." http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Jesta (edited 01-27-2001).]

LoL, that thing cracked me up.

Jesta, you could do some real nice movies in Scapex http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

/me hands Jesta and Academy Award

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credits, and look what happens. Crap, pure crap." - Charlotte

This deservers a bump. To the top, I say!

Outstanding! I laughed so hard the rest of my family had to come in my office to see what my problem was!

um... sorry... how do i see the cutscene?

...oops... me see instructions now =P

[This message has been edited by Cold Pizza (edited 01-27-2001).]

Sheer genious! Keep 'em coming and you'll kill me through laughter

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hehe don't get me wrong it is the best (and only) cutscene I have seen so far...

I just would have prefered to see a cutscene with ingame voices only (or if not that have them stick to the same voices).

again this is JUST ME (and I may not be in the majority) but I think it would be funnier if like the troll came up the the sylph and said "troll like" and then the sylph turned back and morth btwn the troll and firefist and then upon choosing the troll the firefist would say "NOT TROLL FIREFIST!"

I bet you could get some funny sh** from the souns that come with the game... especialy the sounds you dont hear off the bat and need to click a bunch to hear.

and the gods have tons of sounds.

P.S> I wasnt saying you should make it serious...

anyways you can just put me in your next cutscene whining about how I would have made it better (ooh you could use the voice of Grampa on the simpsons!)

I just finished watching it...i found it really good...amaizing actually...

The scene where the troll slaughteres all those slyphs is great...

And the whining fallen...hillarious

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-Stratos, the one true god

Jesta: could you perhaps use me in your next scenario? PLEASE!!!

Ah...Jesta. I dont know what to say...The funniest part of the whole damn thing was seeing me in the movie. http://www.veforums.com/wink.gif I'm glad you here to keep things real and fun. I've been thinking over our little threads and the more i think about it the more i think i was wrong. just to let you know. http://www.veforums.com/wink.gif But do you really have to write such long posts!? I have ADD and its hard for me to read the whole damn thing. jk. I liked the part about SomeGirl too. She is the reason i dont post anymore. It just dont have the same flavor it used to eh...? BTW Why the hell was i Buta!?!?! u couldn't have made me Ragman or Eldred. http://www.veforums.com/wink.gif Ah well...i'm just honored to be included in the bit. http://www.veforums.com/biggrin.gif Good work.
-see ya around.

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Hmm....


[This message has been edited by SomeGirl (edited 01-27-2001).]

Hey Idolater, remember that other thread talking when I was asking about the somegirl will be 0wned thing... my first thought was mr gabeybaby and I think I know for sure that was it

sigh

BAH! I'm already getting greif about the post i just made...just to clear things up. I think i just made my decision a little to quickly when i called for imbalance; however, percy v stratos is stuff...i managed to play someone a game and it lasted 1 hour and it was a standoff between the two of us. he left. After that game i was wondering if my tactics while i was lvl 1 payed off and gave me the edge needed to stay competitive using Stratos.

Basiclly im saying. My comments were rushed. Jesta was right in saying so. :P However...dont let all this get to your head or you'll be as bad as SomeGirl. KEEP IT REAL.

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PS. it wasnt me SomeGirl...

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Actually Somegirl let me set the record straight. When You posted at the beginning of the week that you were one of the top players, some of the guys in the chat room thought you were another fake.... and so everyone wanted to play you (natural confidence leading to the though that you would be 0wned), although by heresay it turns out you are a good player so thats pretty much redundant now http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif
Oh yeah and it was me who posted that as the subject of the room, so my apologies on perhaps a hasty dismissal.
Although I'd still like to play you and see how good all these ppl make you out to be for my self. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

Well atleast now you know that I knew you've disliked me for no reason for quite a while now http://www.veforums.com/frown.gif

no reason..........dont be so damn cocky. You dont know everything.

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I was hoping it wasn't true since you never said anything directly to me...but, I'm afraid my worst fears have come true. I really can't believe people can't stand me this bad http://www.veforums.com/frown.gif

Was it just my first post with the lvl 1-5 thing that made you all mad at me?? I can't really recall anything else that incited all this anger

pretty much....it led to me looking for cocky remarks in all other posts made by you, which could easily be found.

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Ya! Great job!


I'd love to see an action thriller type movie next. Perhaps with a hero and a villan, and a love scene n' all that good stuff. Big battles, like Saving Private Ryan, maybe?

Sorry, if you would of read my original first 5 posts or so I explained that I hated forums and this was the first one I really liked. I did not know words like "ultimate", "best", etc... were a big no-no. I have tried to make sure I'm not being too biast or cocky in anything I say anymore. The posts I made that seemed to make the most people angry were the ones I posted for the newbies asking questions noone ever gave good answers for. So I wrote up what I thought could help them...

I've recieved tons of emails/icq/in game messages from people thanking me for the information... so I continue to post

I realize that I WAS being kind of cocky and arrogant... but I really have toned it down...this still isn't enough for some of I guess... I don't post my sig anymore either.

heh.. guess I should take off the irc server thing off it now, too... since I've seemed to make you all angry there

No offence intended somegirl we dont hate you, we just hate ppl with bad attitude and at the time you sounded sooo aloof. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif
Accept my unconditional apology, ppl can be kinda protective about their games. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif
Its not as if theres a Sacrifice Male Establishment or anything!

Why dont you come down to the chat room, i'm sure people won't shout at you.
Much! http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

I really thought bringing up the oil stacking/stoping spells/ent shield stacking/little bugs etc... would help people in their gameplay. I only post this stuff so other people could become aware of it. I only post to try to make the SacCommunity larger/smarter/stronger because I just hate seeing 4 or 5 people saying how stupid this game is in multiplayer since noone plays it. If I did not care for this game, I would probably not of posted nearly 400 different times in the course of the past week...

All these insults and stuff are really starting to hit me where it hurts... my soul hurts sometimes after reading some of the things people will say about me. I'm going to start having to take anti-depressents again http://www.veforums.com/frown.gif

I try to answer every little question I see too... I don't know what I'm doing wrong to attract negative attention towards myself. The first or second time someone told me I had an attitude problem on this board I totally started to freak out!! I am nothing like that in the real world, but here am I that arrogant?? I really hope not, because I can't stand people like that...

yes, I also think this has gone too far. What if she has said some arrogant stuff? She has apologized though...Let's all forget this.

Please stop this now!

Bah take no notice ....Im lucky no one ever listens to me not matter what I say. http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

"illum- Hey Sac 2 is out in the shops !!!
random poster - hey did u see that cool film
random poster 2 - yeah I really loved it
illum - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

I really don't think I'd be welcomed there...

Gabey dosen't care for me much at all... and I think he's an op... No use going in to get banned/kick etc..