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Color Wolf December 6th, 2000 05:40 PM

Lvl 1 Lightning Overpowered?
 
The level one damage spell of Stratos has a similar if not better damage than Wrath, but has a MUCH, MUCH shorter recharge time. Any comment?

SmellyTerror December 6th, 2000 05:49 PM

Strat really needs the extra grunt in early game so as not to get wiped out before some of the hoopier units come along. I say it's only fair.

Lalkin December 6th, 2000 05:52 PM

what you say is true. one thing about lightning is it can miss. Wrath ALWAYS hits.

Lightning can also hit a friendly target if it gets in the way.

I think they are well balanced.

illuminatus December 7th, 2000 04:08 AM

OF course that does'nt matter if friendly fire is off, so it depends really.

Lalkin December 7th, 2000 04:48 AM

True but friendly fire is where it is at!

=)

Merry December 7th, 2000 08:14 AM

Lightning does the most damage of all the
level 1 spells, and has the fastest recharge
rate.
However it only hits one unit, has the
shortest range, it can miss, and it can
hit your own units.

The recharge rate is almsot too good to
pass up though. I have had pretty good
success with combining freeze and lighting
on enemy wizards.

Merry

Unstressed December 7th, 2000 11:00 AM

Well in light of what many people believe to be Stratos' underpowered early units, I'd say this spell is quite balanced. That's actually something I've noticed with Stratos, he has some delicate units but alot of spectacular spells. I love fence http://www.veforums.com/smile.gif

gabeybaby December 7th, 2000 11:23 AM

is anything balanced for you guys?? I just want to play a balanced game like the rest of you but the only true claim i can see is the fallen. Everything else seems ok to me. However, Stratos' guys are pretty weak...you gotta be a good spell caster to play stratos. I dont really know what to say about any of this because i cant back up any of my claims...i just play the game and see what i see. I don't set up 5 melee v 5 range or anything like that.

I'm just kinda of seeing posts that this and that are unbalanced.

But thats what this forum is for so people can put in their two cents. Maybe if you find something too overpowering you should stop using the same tatics and swith them up to take advantage of the wizard using his lightening spell or smth.

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Quietus[imported] December 7th, 2000 01:18 PM

Who wants to play a balanced game? If it wasn't unbalanced all the sides would be the same!

gabeybaby December 7th, 2000 01:31 PM

Well i think that having different characters is very important and that makeing them balanced but giving them idividuality is very difficult. I for one would rather keep the game varied then have all the same units cause then what would be the point of having two different sides. I think thats what my original post was trying to say that even though sides may be slightly unbalanced...thats kinda the point that each god has his own strength and weaknesses and one of Stratos' strengths happens to be lightning. IMO i'd like to see thinks stay the way they are then change things to the point where all the gods have the same level one units and spells because those are actually the spells that are most used and abused very everything they got.

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Asmodeus December 7th, 2000 02:26 PM

Yes, I think it is imperitive they keep this game as un-Warcraft II as possible. DOes anyone remember the difference there? The spells (basically) and that wasnt much of a difference.
You do have to admit though, some of the early units in this game are rather alike. The cop out with the Gremlins and the Stratos Version, etc.

-Asmodeus

Azmodear December 7th, 2000 02:43 PM

"Who wants to play a balanced game? If it wasn't unbalanced all the sides would be the same!"

How terribly incorrect. I don't know what dictionary you've been reading but balance does not equal homogeneous.

It would be entirely feasible (and expected) to make sure that each unit/god/spell has various strengths and weaknesses. Now, just because things are balanced does not mean everything is the same.

Let's look at Persephone's Druids (level 1 melee). They really can't take the hits (without using their special ability) and they're about mediocre for damage but they're pretty fast and once that lifeshield is activated they're a pain to kill. Now let's look at Scythes (Charnel's level 1 melee). Good damage, mediocre speed, low health.

Are these two units balanced, in general and in respect to eachother? Yes.

Are they effectively the same unit? No.

See my point?

Az

Jake Bullet December 7th, 2000 02:57 PM

Has anyone also noticed that lightining takes like 200 mana or am i wrong?

Asmodeus December 7th, 2000 03:02 PM

I believe you are incorrect.


Color Wolf December 7th, 2000 03:28 PM

Actually all level 1 damage spells only attack 1 target. Using Wrath for example, if only damages one target, but it had a blast that pushes other units away, if you will.

Hafbee December 7th, 2000 03:54 PM

A little info for you:
Wrath, Fireball, Insect swarm = Area of effect damage.
Rock, Lightning = Singe target only.

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Neon Soulfire December 7th, 2000 04:12 PM

No it isn't. If you take away lightning for Stratos then thats it, Stratos cannot win, its THE only way for a stratos player to gain any sort of advantage.

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KamikazeSpaceCoyote December 7th, 2000 07:42 PM

Lightning makes up for Stratos' pathetic lvl 1 creatures.


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Jake Bullet December 7th, 2000 09:33 PM

It does to only take 200 mana i just checked http://www.veforums.com/tongue.gif

BattleAngel December 8th, 2000 12:44 AM

I think that Wrath is an area of affect spell. I have slain two locusts in one blast. I'm almost sure of it. Unless a ranger picked hom out of the air at an admirable distance that is...


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