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Elrond1982 January 20th, 2005 03:01 PM

PS2: Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
 
Hey folks,

I am a big game player (PC, PS2, GBA, etc). I got the Lord of the Rings: The Third Age for PS2 for Christmas (bought it for myself actually when it came out). I beat the game before most people were able to even buy the game (with a lot of lost sleep in the process of being addicted to it). Anyway, I've beaten it now about three times and eventhough it doesn't matter now, I was wondering if there were going to be any cheat codes for this game at all - just curious. Particularly, I was interested in Action Replay Max (AR-Max) codes for this game, as AR-Max is just awesome to use, as I have used it for games such as Lord of the Rings: Return of the King and Two Towers - also for Grand Theft Auto 3, GTA San Andreas, and GTA Vice City. I'm not looking for the cheats just so I can beat the game with them, just curious because there are a lot of cool things that can be done with those codes, especially with AR-Max! Also, if I may, I will provide some hints for The Third Age - hints that may or may not have been shown on other sites. They are just some things that I have learned about the game while playing it for so dang long!

TIPS I'VE LEARNED:

01. OK, now there is a special mode on The Third Age called "Evil Mode" where you can travel to any of the almost dozen levels to play as the evil forces. In this mode, you fight anywhere from three to five battles, depending on where you play. When or if you beat any of these levels, you are given really cool stuff you can use for standard mode (playing the normal campaign). When you get these items, you are asked to save these items to an already-existing saved game. My view on this is that 1.) it is really cool and 2.) if you have beat the game (thus, this provides you with Evil Mode for ALL levels) you can start a new game, save it at another save slot when you get the chance, exit out of normal mode, enter evil mode, then choose Osgiliath in Evil Mode. Beat it and you will gain some really cool weapons, including the Sword of Isildur for Berethor - this sword provides 200 damage strength - which means it is far superior to any sword you start with - only two swords in the game for Berethor will exceed this damage rating - but in the first several levels of the game, up to the last, this Sword of Isildur will provide you with almost certain victory if used by Berethor. The sword on the first level (Eregion) will produce damage values of over 2000 - meaning you can take out any enemy with one shot on the first few levels. Play this evil mode further in your progress in the game to gain items for other characters (as these characters will be added to your team as you go). The last character you gain is Eaoden, a Rohirrim warrior, in the fifth level of the game (Rohan). I think that if you play Osgiliath in Evil Mode once, these items will already be available for use when a new character appears, so for that, you're in luck!

02.) This is a very important hint in the game, as not following this WILL be catastrophic!!! When (if) you get past the Osgiliath level in normal campaign mode, you will be granted the ability to 'travel' back to this level. Every time you complete a level and save the game, you will be granted the ability to travel to any level you have thus-far completed. Now here comes the part that counts: in Osgiliath, sometime in the middle of the level, Idrial (the female Elf, who is very useful in healing your troops and slowing the enemy's attacks) is taken by the Lord of the Nazgul. For this time until the end of the Osgiliath level, she fights alone. If you complete the Osgiliath level, she returns to the group. Now, take this as a note - you MUST complete all quests in Osgiliath before going to the next level! The first time I tried the game, I didn't complete all the quests (the optional ones) and had to go back using travel to play Osgiliath again. Of course, when you travel back to Osgiliath, you don't have Idrial on your group anymore! If you attempt to save the game here, you will end up not having Idrial for the rest of your missions (on that saved game).

This is why I recommend that you either A) complete all the quests in Osgiliath before exitting the sewers of Osgiliath or B) don't save the game in Osgiliath if you travelled back to it from another level (doing so would sacrifice Idrial from the group). Now, if you did fail to complete all the quests in Osgiliath before proceeding to Minas Tirith, don't despair, for there may be a way out of this: simply, don't save the game! Complete your quests (which may be one or two optional quests) and don't save! This may be tough, as in the Osgiliath sewers, you will likely be facing several of battles with Nazgul, Trolls, etc! But to prevail here, you will have to survive battle after battle without saving (saving by the way renews your Health and Action Points for ALL members, but alas, you cannot do this if you're in this situation - like I said, doing so would eliminate Idrial from any further action in the game). After each battle in the sewers, you may find you have one or two characters with low health or action points - just press start or the green triangle button and then go to Use Item - depending on what you need to restore, you may be using Kingsfoil or Lembas on a character to restore HP and/or AP. Now, once you get through the sewers, you will see a doorway - make sure you have completed all the quests in Osgiliath, then proceed through the door - you will return from whence you came (either Minas Tirith or Pelennor Fields). NOW, at one of those levels, you will have Idrial on your team - save the game at your earliest convenience and you will have prevailed! That's how you may get around this problem if you didn't complete the optional quests before leaving Osgiliath.

In conclusion, you have two options if you don't want to lose Idrial from your group: 1) either complete ALL the quests in Osgiliath before proceeding or 2.) if you haven't completed all the quests and have proceeded already, travel back to Osgiliath, complete the quests AND DON'T SAVE THE GAME WHILE IN OSGILIATH, and simply use your items to restore your HP and AP, then pass through the sewers and through the door to return to your original location. This is how you may prevail!

03.) You will eventually have six members as a part of your company - you start with Berethor and Idrial, then you find Elegost (a Dunedain Ranger), then Hadhod (a dwarf) in Eregion. Then in Rohan, you will find Morwen (a totally hot Rohan warrioress) and Eaoden (another Rohirrim warrior who is resistant to spirit attacks). Basically, in my experience, your three best team members are Berethor, Idrial, and Elegost. The other three piss me off because when attacking, they tend to miss often. Berethor, Idrial, and Elegost have an average accuracy of 93%, so they usually won't fail you when attacking. However, Idrial's attacks tend to be weak as compared with other team members - but what she may lack in her attacks, she makes up for in spirit powers (she eventually can restore all of the health in the team and remove negative effects on your team). Berethor, if you played the Evil Mode in Osgiliath, is especially potent in his attacks. With the Sword of Isildur, he can destroy an enemy quite often in one attack! He also has Leadership abilities that include Stand Fast (the ability to be immune to stunning attacks that delay the actions of your teammates), Company Might (greater strength of attacks), Company Power (almost guarantees critical hits on enemy targets), Company Valor (makes your teammates more likely to avoid being hit by enemy attacks), War Call and War Cry (the first allows two allies to attack one enemy and the second allows three allies to attack one enemy - in both cases, if the target enemy is destroyed, the next character in line will attack another enemy). Then you have Elegost, who eventually gains the ability to drain health from an enemy and another attack which can cause all enemies to sleep (as long as they're not immune to sleeping attacks). His attacks usually prove successful in hitting an enemy and with his eventually-learned Frenzy, he can attack twice!!! Most characters eventually gain the ability to attack twice.

Then you have the other three characters - each with their strengths and weaknesses. But one weakness they all seem to have in common is that they miss their targets much of the time - Hadhod, the Dwarf, misses the most, especially in later missions! When a character gains a certain amount of Experience Points, they level up, which allows you to increase some of their aspects. These aspects are Strength (increases HP slightly and increases the ability to do more damage), Constitute (increase HP more), Action (increases Action Points that are used to take special power actions), Speed (increases the initiative of a character, allowing him/her to attack more often), and Dexterity (which increases the likelihood of avoiding enemy attacks and hitting an enemy with an attack). Hadhod, in particular, needs more dexterity points when his experience level increases. Even with a lot of dexterity, he still tends to miss more often than others. Putting points into speed and dexterity can aleviate this. But in my experience, I have tended to leave him out of combat often because he pisses me off so much when he misses his enemy when he attacks! I don't know how many times I have cursed over his futile worthless attacks that result in frequent misses!

Then you have Eaoden and Morwen - their attacks can be quite lethal. Eaoden is especially worthwhile to use in combat when you face an enemy that uses a Morgul Mirror or a similar shield (attacking an enemy with this enabled results in MASSIVE damage done to your team). Using Eaoden's dispel ability will bring this shield down altogether! His spear attacks are also noteworthy, partcularly when you equip him with weapons acquired from Osgiliath Evil Mode! Morwen is an expert in stealing tactics - she can steal health, action points, dexterity, strength, experience points, and skill from an enemy. She can also eventually learn to use "The Cloak of the Plains" which protects her from ALL attacks for a few minutes of combat. But unfortunately, both their attacks sometimes miss, at least more often than Idrial's, Berethor's, or Elegost's attacks. But they at least hit the enemy more often than that slow Dwarf, Hadhod!!! But in respect to the Dwarfs, Hadhod's abilities are not weak - he can be quite potent, particularly when his attacks DO hit. Also, one of his spirit powers he eventually learns is the Mountain Shields, which protects all party members from damage until the shield is down. And in time, if Hadhod is used in combat enough, he will learn powerful axe attacks that don't miss too often. In time, Hadhod CAN become a most effective member of the team. Perhaps if the Dwarves of Moria had had these abilities, they may have prevailed against the orcs and the Balrog - but Dwarves basically tend to be slower as they are only four-and-a-half feet tall at the most. To fight, they have to fight in close-quarters to the enemy and thus, are more likely to be mortally wounded.


When taking all these tips in the game into account, you will learn the abilities and weaknesses of your entire team and you will find that you don't need cheats to win this game, which can be very tough to beat even in Medium difficulty. I've beaten it in hard mode, but barely! As I have learned the game better, though, I can now use hard mode all the time and win most of the time! And don't despair when you see a Game Over sign on the screen - it doesn't mean you've lost all your progress. Just go back to your last saved game and make sure you save as often as you can - just don't save your game AT ALL when you travel back to Osgiliath after defeating that level - the price for doing so is very high!

Now in my own interst, I can't wait to find the AR-Max codes for The Third Age for PS2. I've seen some codes for the Game Cube version, but absolutely none for PS2! WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?! :p :uhoh: :lol:

Herr Heretic January 25th, 2005 06:27 PM

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i didnt read any of that! could you keep your posts a bit shorter

coldmeat January 25th, 2005 07:42 PM

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i have the lord of the rings: two towers and i got so frustrated with the first level that i just gave up... i couldnt kill the friggin guys, just thinking about it made me angry. the tutorial sucked, it just told you how to use the weapons then threw you in the game

Herr Heretic January 25th, 2005 09:08 PM

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third age is nothin like two towers. its an RPG like final fantasy

qotsa January 26th, 2005 07:40 AM

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Sounds cool

Herr Heretic January 26th, 2005 07:44 AM

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queens of the stone age rule.
anyway.
just cos its in the style of fantasy doest mean its as good!

qotsa January 30th, 2005 05:56 AM

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Naa its supposed to be really good

HalflingWithRing January 30th, 2005 11:42 AM

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Wow, someone who like The Third Age. As much as I love Tolkien's works I must say that game totaly blew, not trying to be a ass hole, Characters are uninteresting and frequently ignore each other; frequent battles with a total lack of variety. I would give the game a 3 out of 10. I also may recommend just buying a final fantasy, if you allready own all the final fantasys? Play them over again, this game is not really worth the time.

Wishing EA would stop making crappy games,
HalflingWithRing

Herr Heretic January 31st, 2005 08:49 AM

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and there you have it!

Elrond1982 February 2nd, 2005 01:03 AM

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Well this is great - so I see I've started a flame war - could have seen that coming. :mad: Fantastic! See what happens when I don't read the posts for like a week! :rolleyes: Well let's see how I can piss off the universe again - this is sort of a long post, but in the Armada 2 forums, most of the posts are pretty long - if you don't want to read all that shit, then you don't have to - that's your choice. I'm not asking anyone to read it - only those who are interested in the topic should discuss it. Just like they say, if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, then get away from the cook (quote from All in the Family).

Well, the game may not be the cup of tea for some - that's alright. All I was talking about in my post is showing what I learned while playing the game a few times over - and seeing if there were any AR-Max codes for the game (but I found those since my post - on codejunkies site). I haven't played the game for a few days now and have gone on to playing Halo 2 (a good game by the way - more like awesome). Sorry for my long-ass post, but I figured there would be someone playing the game who could use the tips I posted and perhaps someone who knew some codes for the game. But I agree totally with the character set in the game - the characters aren't that developed and totally ignore each other and that sucks! Plus, in the battle scenes, you rarely see that many surrounding battles going on at the same time - especially at Pelennor Fields. When playing that level, I was like, shouldn't there be a hell of a battle going on around me - why is it just a few of my characters facing two trolls and two orc warriors?!?! And the way you go into a battle into the game totally sucks - all you see all the time is the stupid red eye that is supposed to tell the player "guess what - it's time for battle." That was one of my least favorite features of the game.

What was good about the game is that the characters can develop skills and depending upon how you did in your battles, it would affect your next battles. What I was looking for in a game of Lord of the Rings is a combination of the three trilogy games - like actually battling orcs while adventuring - my favorite Lord of the Rings game was Return of the King - aside from the great graphics, it was an adventure and fight game - not intermitant adventuring and fighting - simulataneaty is what is great in the other Rings games. But I still enjoyed Third Age nonetheless - would have enjoyed it more if, as you said, heretic, the game had more variety. The imagery and graphics in the game is what would make or break it - fortunately for this game, the graphics were good - if it wasn't for that, I would have given it a 1/10! But my final rating is 6.5/10 - compared to 9.3/10 for Return of the King. This game I agree would get a :moon: on my list, as most of my games I own are usually a 7/10 or above. But for those interested in trying the game - do so - if you really like Lord of the Rings a lot, even to the point that you can stand playing beyond the first level, then that means you will enjoy it. Don't listen to what I or anyone else doesn't like about it - just hope for the best and expect the worst - one of my many mottos in life.

Herr Heretic February 2nd, 2005 05:25 PM

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this game is a shitload better than return of the bloody king!

Elrond1982 February 2nd, 2005 09:06 PM

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So I guess I'd have to be wrong again - I thought you said Third Age sucked - this thread officially sucks. If I could, I would close it, but I won't 'cause I can't :0wned: :beer:

Herr Heretic February 3rd, 2005 09:15 AM

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third age sucks....... but return of the king sucks....more:)

Rabid Beaver February 7th, 2005 05:41 PM

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Heretic, if you havnt got anything interesting to say, then dont bother.
Return of the king is far better than Third age, and i would really like to see soem kind of half way game between the two.
Third Age needs to be less turn bassed.

Herr Heretic February 8th, 2005 11:40 AM

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just cos you prefer button bashing instead of strategy doest make the game shit.

twat.............

Elrond1982 February 11th, 2005 11:32 PM

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OK, Folks, if you have been involved in this thread, then read THE WHOLE THING this time.

You may have noticed that this thread doesn't fall into the category of melee - that said, I'm no mod or administrator, but I'd like to say, let's stay on topic - and if we're actually on topic, then let's do so in the realm of this forum. If not, it will probably be moved to the melee or maybe closed. Since it hasn't seemed to have attracted anything but flaming from start to finish (and i tried not contributing to that), I don't know what will be done with this thread!

Anyway, back on topic (sort of). Rabid Beaver, I agree with that - there needs to be a sort of 'half-way' game between ROTK and TTA. I thought that the reason for the new game (TTA) was going to be to sum up the whole trilogy in one game - with the same characters - it was disappointing that we didn't get to use the original Fellowship the whole way through the game. A lot of the storyline was inaccurate at best (like the characters helping Gandalf fight the Balrog - I mean, if they were fighting alongside Gandalf, where was the rest of the fellowship - and Gandalf faced the Balrog alone, so it's altogether inaccurate).

Both games, ROTK and TTA to me were enjoyable and that's not going to be everyone's opinion. I would like to see this thread achieve its original intention - to discuss tips and tricks of the game - not to argue about how crappy a game was (is). If no one that visits this thread that has anything better to talk about, then they can go to the melee, and if there are none that visit this thread that CAN DO THAT, then it's no skin off my back - it's better with nothing in a thread than a lot of off-topic material. That belongs in either spam or melee forums, which it appears this will belong to eventually, depending upon decisions of the mods. I know my post was freakin' long - but what was I going to do, put in multiple posts - that's spamming as well! If you have enough interest in the thread topic and wish to post content that reflects that interest, then please go ahead and read the first post to see WHAT THIS WHOLE THING IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!!! If ya can't do that, then go to Spamming Forum and put in a bunch of emoticons and "OMG, SPAM!!!" messages in - I don't give a crap!

If I were mod for a day, this message would have been scaled down to say, "This thread has run its worthless course - thread closed! :lock: " But I can't do that, eventhough I sure the heck feel like it right now! Read the rules - no bad language on the regular forums - that includes 'twat' - children visit game forums and threads to gain access to some game tips, previews, etc. Now no offense, Heretic - I'm just p-o'd that this thread is not going to even get close to reaching its intended goal. But if anyone's got anything to say from here on in, make it so - just don't post anything unless it's on-topic as it doesn't just piss off the mods and administrators, but it pisses off the rest of the people who wish to see something more interesting than another melee where there shouldn't be!!! That's what the mods and administrators are there for - now this isn't at all on topic, but since this is going nowhere, I had to say it - not because I got first post, but because this thread is just filled with crap. And in some peoples' opinions, the subject may be crap, but to some it may not.

SUBJECT: LORD OF THE RINGS: THE THIRD AGE: TIPS, AR-MAX STUFF, TUTORIALS.

NOT THE SUBJECT: BASH THE HELL OUT OF GAMES - THERE'S A SEPARATE FORUM FOR THAT - IT'S CALLED "worst games on any gaming system". SEARCH FOR THAT THREAD AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE ON WITH YOUR INTENDED AIM.

PS: THIS THREAD SUCKS, except the first post - I'd hate to be modest, but hey!

Herr Heretic February 12th, 2005 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elrond1982
Read the rules - no bad language on the regular forums - that includes 'twat' - children visit game forums and threads to gain access to some game tips, previews, etc. Now no offense, Heretic - I'm just p-o'd that this thread is not going to even get close to reaching its intended goal.

sorry

Elrond1982 February 12th, 2005 01:02 PM

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I gracefully accept your apology :) - seriously, though, we need not mention it from here on in. Don't feel like crap - everyone posts something unrelated to the topic sometimes, or even swears - I've done it, almost got banned. :) Let's just have a fun time on this thread ;) . Have a good weekend my friend and I will see you all again Monday, as I'm going away for the rest of the weekend.

-Cheers!

Elrond1982 February 13th, 2005 04:45 AM

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Here's some eye candy for you: this is Star Trek and Lord of the Rings put together. You remember the Borg Cube!?!?!? Well here's the Elven Cube: as you will notice, the cube itself is cloaked, it can fit 6 armor pods - 1 for each face, the pods are cool, and the enemy must target them before targetting the ship - you will notice that this ship has already lost some of its armor!!! Enjoy!!!

http://home.comcast.net/~elwemithran...Elven_Cube.jpg

ajclarke February 14th, 2005 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elrond1982
Hey folks,

I am a big game player (PC, PS2, GBA, etc). I got the Lord of the Rings: The Third Age for PS2 for Christmas (bought it for myself actually when it came out). I beat the game before most people were able to even buy the game (with a lot of lost sleep in the process of being addicted to it). Anyway, I've beaten it now about three times and eventhough it doesn't matter now, I was wondering if there were going to be any cheat codes for this game at all - just curious. Particularly, I was interested in Action Replay Max (AR-Max) codes for this game, as AR-Max is just awesome to use, as I have used it for games such as Lord of the Rings: Return of the King and Two Towers - also for Grand Theft Auto 3, GTA San Andreas, and GTA Vice City. I'm not looking for the cheats just so I can beat the game with them, just curious because there are a lot of cool things that can be done with those codes, especially with AR-Max! Also, if I may, I will provide some hints for The Third Age - hints that may or may not have been shown on other sites. They are just some things that I have learned about the game while playing it for so dang long!

TIPS I'VE LEARNED:

01. OK, now there is a special mode on The Third Age called "Evil Mode" where you can travel to any of the almost dozen levels to play as the evil forces. In this mode, you fight anywhere from three to five battles, depending on where you play. When or if you beat any of these levels, you are given really cool stuff you can use for standard mode (playing the normal campaign). When you get these items, you are asked to save these items to an already-existing saved game. My view on this is that 1.) it is really cool and 2.) if you have beat the game (thus, this provides you with Evil Mode for ALL levels) you can start a new game, save it at another save slot when you get the chance, exit out of normal mode, enter evil mode, then choose Osgiliath in Evil Mode. Beat it and you will gain some really cool weapons, including the Sword of Isildur for Berethor - this sword provides 200 damage strength - which means it is far superior to any sword you start with - only two swords in the game for Berethor will exceed this damage rating - but in the first several levels of the game, up to the last, this Sword of Isildur will provide you with almost certain victory if used by Berethor. The sword on the first level (Eregion) will produce damage values of over 2000 - meaning you can take out any enemy with one shot on the first few levels. Play this evil mode further in your progress in the game to gain items for other characters (as these characters will be added to your team as you go). The last character you gain is Eaoden, a Rohirrim warrior, in the fifth level of the game (Rohan). I think that if you play Osgiliath in Evil Mode once, these items will already be available for use when a new character appears, so for that, you're in luck!

02.) This is a very important hint in the game, as not following this WILL be catastrophic!!! When (if) you get past the Osgiliath level in normal campaign mode, you will be granted the ability to 'travel' back to this level. Every time you complete a level and save the game, you will be granted the ability to travel to any level you have thus-far completed. Now here comes the part that counts: in Osgiliath, sometime in the middle of the level, Idrial (the female Elf, who is very useful in healing your troops and slowing the enemy's attacks) is taken by the Lord of the Nazgul. For this time until the end of the Osgiliath level, she fights alone. If you complete the Osgiliath level, she returns to the group. Now, take this as a note - you MUST complete all quests in Osgiliath before going to the next level! The first time I tried the game, I didn't complete all the quests (the optional ones) and had to go back using travel to play Osgiliath again. Of course, when you travel back to Osgiliath, you don't have Idrial on your group anymore! If you attempt to save the game here, you will end up not having Idrial for the rest of your missions (on that saved game).

This is why I recommend that you either A) complete all the quests in Osgiliath before exitting the sewers of Osgiliath or B) don't save the game in Osgiliath if you travelled back to it from another level (doing so would sacrifice Idrial from the group). Now, if you did fail to complete all the quests in Osgiliath before proceeding to Minas Tirith, don't despair, for there may be a way out of this: simply, don't save the game! Complete your quests (which may be one or two optional quests) and don't save! This may be tough, as in the Osgiliath sewers, you will likely be facing several of battles with Nazgul, Trolls, etc! But to prevail here, you will have to survive battle after battle without saving (saving by the way renews your Health and Action Points for ALL members, but alas, you cannot do this if you're in this situation - like I said, doing so would eliminate Idrial from any further action in the game). After each battle in the sewers, you may find you have one or two characters with low health or action points - just press start or the green triangle button and then go to Use Item - depending on what you need to restore, you may be using Kingsfoil or Lembas on a character to restore HP and/or AP. Now, once you get through the sewers, you will see a doorway - make sure you have completed all the quests in Osgiliath, then proceed through the door - you will return from whence you came (either Minas Tirith or Pelennor Fields). NOW, at one of those levels, you will have Idrial on your team - save the game at your earliest convenience and you will have prevailed! That's how you may get around this problem if you didn't complete the optional quests before leaving Osgiliath.

In conclusion, you have two options if you don't want to lose Idrial from your group: 1) either complete ALL the quests in Osgiliath before proceeding or 2.) if you haven't completed all the quests and have proceeded already, travel back to Osgiliath, complete the quests AND DON'T SAVE THE GAME WHILE IN OSGILIATH, and simply use your items to restore your HP and AP, then pass through the sewers and through the door to return to your original location. This is how you may prevail!

03.) You will eventually have six members as a part of your company - you start with Berethor and Idrial, then you find Elegost (a Dunedain Ranger), then Hadhod (a dwarf) in Eregion. Then in Rohan, you will find Morwen (a totally hot Rohan warrioress) and Eaoden (another Rohirrim warrior who is resistant to spirit attacks). Basically, in my experience, your three best team members are Berethor, Idrial, and Elegost. The other three piss me off because when attacking, they tend to miss often. Berethor, Idrial, and Elegost have an average accuracy of 93%, so they usually won't fail you when attacking. However, Idrial's attacks tend to be weak as compared with other team members - but what she may lack in her attacks, she makes up for in spirit powers (she eventually can restore all of the health in the team and remove negative effects on your team). Berethor, if you played the Evil Mode in Osgiliath, is especially potent in his attacks. With the Sword of Isildur, he can destroy an enemy quite often in one attack! He also has Leadership abilities that include Stand Fast (the ability to be immune to stunning attacks that delay the actions of your teammates), Company Might (greater strength of attacks), Company Power (almost guarantees critical hits on enemy targets), Company Valor (makes your teammates more likely to avoid being hit by enemy attacks), War Call and War Cry (the first allows two allies to attack one enemy and the second allows three allies to attack one enemy - in both cases, if the target enemy is destroyed, the next character in line will attack another enemy). Then you have Elegost, who eventually gains the ability to drain health from an enemy and another attack which can cause all enemies to sleep (as long as they're not immune to sleeping attacks). His attacks usually prove successful in hitting an enemy and with his eventually-learned Frenzy, he can attack twice!!! Most characters eventually gain the ability to attack twice.

Then you have the other three characters - each with their strengths and weaknesses. But one weakness they all seem to have in common is that they miss their targets much of the time - Hadhod, the Dwarf, misses the most, especially in later missions! When a character gains a certain amount of Experience Points, they level up, which allows you to increase some of their aspects. These aspects are Strength (increases HP slightly and increases the ability to do more damage), Constitute (increase HP more), Action (increases Action Points that are used to take special power actions), Speed (increases the initiative of a character, allowing him/her to attack more often), and Dexterity (which increases the likelihood of avoiding enemy attacks and hitting an enemy with an attack). Hadhod, in particular, needs more dexterity points when his experience level increases. Even with a lot of dexterity, he still tends to miss more often than others. Putting points into speed and dexterity can aleviate this. But in my experience, I have tended to leave him out of combat often because he pisses me off so much when he misses his enemy when he attacks! I don't know how many times I have cursed over his futile worthless attacks that result in frequent misses!

Then you have Eaoden and Morwen - their attacks can be quite lethal. Eaoden is especially worthwhile to use in combat when you face an enemy that uses a Morgul Mirror or a similar shield (attacking an enemy with this enabled results in MASSIVE damage done to your team). Using Eaoden's dispel ability will bring this shield down altogether! His spear attacks are also noteworthy, partcularly when you equip him with weapons acquired from Osgiliath Evil Mode! Morwen is an expert in stealing tactics - she can steal health, action points, dexterity, strength, experience points, and skill from an enemy. She can also eventually learn to use "The Cloak of the Plains" which protects her from ALL attacks for a few minutes of combat. But unfortunately, both their attacks sometimes miss, at least more often than Idrial's, Berethor's, or Elegost's attacks. But they at least hit the enemy more often than that slow Dwarf, Hadhod!!! But in respect to the Dwarfs, Hadhod's abilities are not weak - he can be quite potent, particularly when his attacks DO hit. Also, one of his spirit powers he eventually learns is the Mountain Shields, which protects all party members from damage until the shield is down. And in time, if Hadhod is used in combat enough, he will learn powerful axe attacks that don't miss too often. In time, Hadhod CAN become a most effective member of the team. Perhaps if the Dwarves of Moria had had these abilities, they may have prevailed against the orcs and the Balrog - but Dwarves basically tend to be slower as they are only four-and-a-half feet tall at the most. To fight, they have to fight in close-quarters to the enemy and thus, are more likely to be mortally wounded.


When taking all these tips in the game into account, you will learn the abilities and weaknesses of your entire team and you will find that you don't need cheats to win this game, which can be very tough to beat even in Medium difficulty. I've beaten it in hard mode, but barely! As I have learned the game better, though, I can now use hard mode all the time and win most of the time! And don't despair when you see a Game Over sign on the screen - it doesn't mean you've lost all your progress. Just go back to your last saved game and make sure you save as often as you can - just don't save your game AT ALL when you travel back to Osgiliath after defeating that level - the price for doing so is very high!

Now in my own interst, I can't wait to find the AR-Max codes for The Third Age for PS2. I've seen some codes for the Game Cube version, but absolutely none for PS2! WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?! :p :uhoh: :lol:

Nice Essay. I love this game but unfortunatley there arent any cheats or haks for it. I did hear though that if you have a net adaptor (ethernet) you can totaly screw around with coding or summat but id just play it normaly. Im in Minas Tirith at the moment. Gave up because I got Burnout 3 but ill go back to it in about 1 week.

Elrond1982 February 14th, 2005 08:56 PM

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The Minas Tirith level is one of my favorite, but it is followed by Pelennor Fields (my least favorite - though the battles are challenging and cool). Burnout 3 sounds like a good game - I don't have it, but I may sometime. Yeah, that essay I wrote after being up for two days (an often-occuring thing for me lately - darn insomnia). :p

On the note about codes - I found some AR-Max codes for The Third Age - they are pretty good, but require a lot of inputting if you don't flash the codes in with a memory device (I forget what they call it). Just go to (www).(codejunkies).(com) - eliminate the parenthesis in that link, for I didn't want to post any direct links. After you are there, click the USA site, then you get to a screen that has a menu bar near the top - it includes 'codes'. Click on codes and then you will see an index going from 0 to 9 and A to Z. Click on L. This will take you to the 'L' game index. This includes Lord of the Rings games. Go to page 2 near the bottom of that page and you will see the second page of 'L' game codes - that includes:
"The Lord of the Rings - The Third Age - Action Replay Max"

Click on that link and you will see over 220 codes for The Third Age - there is no other site that I know of that has The Third Age codes for Playstation 2. I'm assuming you're using PS2 - there is also a GC version if you use that system, but it's not on codejunkies. I have seen GC AR-Max codes for the game and they're not all too different from the PS2 version - but they are different and if you use GameCube, you'll need those codes.

I hope that helps you (if you have AR-Max). There are no in-game cheat code button combinations that I know of - so AR-Max is the only way. The codes work for me. There is one code that isn't complete - it's the Max Spear Craft Codes for Eaoden called "Rampage of Helm". The rest of the Spear Craft codes work. What the skills code allows is for your character to have that skill - every skill is accounted for in the code list. That means you can start a fresh new game with ALL skills if you want - unfortunately, you have to put in many codes to get these skills - choose the skills you want your characters to have (I picked all the goodies when I put in codes for The Third Age - just to save me time because the real good skills and crafts require a lot of time to gain). There are also other codes, such as one that allows your character to have infinite upgrade points - the points you put into character aspects when you get a level up. You get 999 upgrade points - if you use them up, just select another character and then go back to the original and the 999 upgrade points will be back. You know how now you probably have strength for Berethor that is in the 100's - well you can put as many as you want in there - if you like pressing a button 999 times in a row again and again and again! In my game, my characters have around 4000 upgrade points in the strength, spirit, and constitution aspects - with a strength of 4000, a character such as Berethor can completely kill ANY enemy in the game - and that gets him sometimes over a million hp's!!! That's better than any sword can do! The most hp's I ever took off a single foe was 3 million! This doesn't necessarily give you more experience points, but besides, you don't need them if you have 4000 strength!!!

The health value I have for my characters I have already set to around 80,000!!! I've tried to see if any enemy can kill any of my characters and only once did that happen - after an hour of allowing the enemy to continuously attack me. An important note - you don't want to put too many upgrade points into speed or dexterity - if you do, the enemy won't hit your character very often and if you have too much speed (over 200), the enemy will never get a chance to move! That's what the speed does in the game - it gives your character(s) the ability to take a move more often. You want some challenge - for with 80,000 health, you don't really need that much speed and dexterity - a win is almost guaranteed!

ajclarke March 14th, 2005 06:46 AM

Re: PS2: Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
 
Completed it about three days ago now. Lol. too easy tho.

Elrond1982 March 26th, 2005 10:42 PM

Re: PS2: Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
 
Yeah, I agree (wow I haven't posted here for a month and a half - somehow I thought it was longer). It was an easy game - fun, but easy! The AR-Max codes (codejunkies site) have been out for a while - but then they make the game way too easy. There's one option that gives you infinite upgrade points - then you put as many of those points as you want into a character's aspect - then they end up kicking the enemy's ass five times before they hit the ground! I beat Sauron's eye in one move with the upgrade points I gave to the characters! (instead of 30,000 hps taken off at the most, 2 million are taken off - which is an instant victory). But I like the scenes in the game - some areas can be quite relaxing after a hard day at the office :p .

Randalf April 8th, 2005 02:41 AM

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its crap but its better then two towers and return of the king


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