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Jakob April 4th, 2004 03:03 AM

A new look at Call Of Duty
 
We have all played through Call of Duty, and Medal of Honor. Ever notice one thing? You are always playing as allies. Why not make a game that is in reverse in situation? I know it is a sensitive issue, and I am not racist or neo, but honestly the germans were in general people too fighting and dieing for their country too. I personally think that a game or even expansion of Call of Duty, would be awesome if it were based as an opposing force.

What do you think?

CorT April 4th, 2004 03:33 AM

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RtCW, you fight as the Axis in MP...:n0e:

-Kao- April 4th, 2004 04:07 AM

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i think he means single player, playing as Axis in single player, with an actual story line...

could be good, i'd like to play it. After all, im sure not all the german soldiers had the same ideas as hitler, they just had to do what he said :/

CorT April 4th, 2004 05:06 AM

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it wasn't jsut Germany...France too, I think. there was more to the axis of evil than hitler and his men.

AzH April 4th, 2004 05:12 AM

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France too, what?

CorT April 4th, 2004 05:19 AM

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'France, too' as in part of the axis of evil. I think I'm wrong on that though....>_>

AzH April 4th, 2004 05:54 AM

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just a little. . .

Germany - Italy - Japan = Axis of Evil in WWII. France was invaded. ;)

Mexmadman April 4th, 2004 06:22 AM

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Yeah but the problem is, it won't be possible to play some the well known missions (omaha, pegasus, stalingrad etc.) because the out come is the Allies being victorious and it doesn't exactly make very good game where the player is forced to loose most of the missions to progress through. :p

-Kao- April 4th, 2004 06:33 AM

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rofl thats very true :nodding:

young Obi-Wan April 4th, 2004 07:18 AM

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Quote:

'France, too' as in part of the axis of evil. I think I'm wrong on that though....>_>
yeah, crappy thing if the only history-subject is about american history hm? ;)
well, ppl in your age should know that
btw what kind of topic is this meant to be? :confused:

Lyon April 4th, 2004 09:37 AM

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Yeah but i think it is a good idea. I was hoping to play as AXIS in call of duty when i beat it, but i didn't get to =(.

D.Sporky! April 4th, 2004 11:59 AM

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Yeah, no matter how many allies you killed, you'd still lose in the end. Kinda...meh

Jakob April 4th, 2004 05:26 PM

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That is what would make the game interesting... What missions would you play? People forget that the axis had MANY victories, France, Norway, Africa, etc.. What would happen to your charactor? Would you survive the war? A game with a twist....

I am glad to have caught your attention, I am just a World War 2 history, and gaming buff with a thought...

Thanks All,
Jakob
9th Grossduestchland Clan

Admiral Donutz April 4th, 2004 05:26 PM

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indeed! I would love to play as an axis soldier in a game (singleplayer) . They just would have to create a game that would run from 1939 (invation of Poland) to 1942 (battle of stalingrad) when the balance began to shift.

gat April 4th, 2004 05:48 PM

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it would be cool.
i was told before call of duty came out that the single player missions would play like this: american, british, russian then axis. and was disapointed when i found it did not i still think it is a gr8 game but i would love to play the axis in single player for once.

Sarrow April 4th, 2004 05:52 PM

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It would be interesting to play as the enemy*thinks on*

*moved to general gaming*

BobDole April 4th, 2004 05:55 PM

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Well usually it is the allies because they won.......Germany lost ppl like the ppl that won

JP(NL) April 5th, 2004 06:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mexmadman
Yeah but the problem is, it won't be possible to play some the well known missions (omaha, pegasus, stalingrad etc.) because the out come is the Allies being victorious and it doesn't exactly make very good game where the player is forced to loose most of the missions to progress through. :p

uhhm... germany has achieved more military goals in 3 years than most nations did in their entire excistance...

invasion of poland 1939, conquered after 2-3 months
invasion of holland belgium & luxemburg 1940, conquerd after a week
invasion of france 1940, conquered after 1 month eventhough the french had a superior armed force.
invasion of the balkans 1940, conquered after 2-3 months (with a little help from mussolini)
invasion of northern africa 1940, the allies got their asses kicked in africa in the first few years of the war. german supplying is what made them lose, not montgommery, as most of you brits like to believe.
invasion of russia 1941, the germans conquered a section of russia almost the size of europe in under a year. winter and supplying cost them the war, not allied power or heroism as most of you like to believe.
domination of the atlantic ocean for over 2-3 years. during the first few years of the war hardly any allied ships were safe from the german wolfpacks. and then the allies had to invent radar and break the enigma code...

I'd say there's more than enough to create a game based on the german military achievements of WW2... :p

Mexmadman April 5th, 2004 07:36 AM

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Ahhh, i never said that germany hadn't achieved anything, just that the famous battles (for the allies anyway) won't be able to included, or if they do, the objective would all be the same - Retreat from the Allied advance :p

In all seriousness though, getting the German perspective of the war would kick ass, learning about all the famous german victories and i would especially like to take part in Operation Market Garden. :) Poor British...lol

CorT April 5th, 2004 07:59 AM

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bah, shudup azh! I don't pay attection to history that much...


and mex, you could still include the famus allied vitories, just ad a twist to it and change history...

Admiral Donutz April 5th, 2004 08:24 AM

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i wonder why there isn't a single player (3d shooter) like this. Maybe gamedevelopers think that this games would't sell that good? or that the "sociaty" qould consider this kind of game "wrong"? IMO there is nothing wrong with it as long as you don't have to shoot jews/transport jews etc. There is nothing wrong with a singleplayer game where you play a german soldier in the regular army during ww2. They ould even make a level where you could shorten the war by giving you the oppertunity to assassinate Hitler. (maybe somewhere on the end of the game, where you gained much faim because of your actions, you are invited on some kind of special parade/party and there you can -but don't have too- kill hitler or some other highranking nazi OR you could betray your comrades and tell the gestapo about the plot).

CorT April 5th, 2004 08:27 AM

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hell, they make a game where you play as a german soldier I'd buy it (if it ever came out for mac >_<)

Random-Hero April 5th, 2004 09:24 AM

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i'd buy it, it would rock!

boots_on_the_ground April 8th, 2004 10:48 AM

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In bf1942 u get to play axis but that game has no storyline to it :beer:

Mihail April 8th, 2004 11:44 AM

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It's because the axis are normally known as the "bad guys" and the allies are the good guys. And of course the axis lose so you can't really "win"

I would not mind it though, id play if it were a good game

Admiral Donutz April 8th, 2004 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mihail
It's because the axis are normally known as the "bad guys" and the allies are the good guys. And of course the axis lose so you can't really "win"(...)

yup, the axis are "the bad guys" and they did lose BUT if the game focussus (sp?) on the first part of the war ('39-'42) you can win many battles (and mayne even win the war (if the just had to go on after '42). Notice that 98% of the ww2 games starts around '42 when the axis began to lose? There are very few games where the game starts in '39, they almost all start around '42. No game where the polish are defeated, western-europe (the netherlands, belgium, luxembourg, france etc.) are overrun northen europe (norway, sweden, finland) are being attacked. So a game like this could take place in a very differnet enviroment (time, units, strenght etc.) and show the war from a different perspective.

PS: O/T but why do so many games let you choose/spwan you as allies by default? When i play Battlefield 1942 i always have to select axis before i can select a kit and spawn. This kind of games should give you the option (in the settings menu) to decide which team you like to be on by default. OR as other games do: make an intro-screen where you have to choose between axis and allied.

ManiK April 8th, 2004 12:04 PM

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Check out German Front for Call of Duty, it's a mod cming out soon and it's whole purpose is to provide a single payer campaign for the axis.

Mihail April 8th, 2004 12:08 PM

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well how much real fighting was there? atleast compared to the later parts of the war, sure there was but nothing like the back and forth battles of early-mid 40's anyway

try a game called IL-2 very good fight sim you can be romanian, russian, german, polish, etc etc in SP mode, and even more on MP plus IL-2: FB and the new ex-pack

XLove & MutilationX April 9th, 2004 06:59 PM

Re: A new look at Call Of Duty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakob
We have all played through Call of Duty, and Medal of Honor. Ever notice one thing? You are always playing as allies. Why not make a game that is in reverse in situation? I know it is a sensitive issue, and I am not racist or neo, but honestly the germans were in general people too fighting and dieing for their country too. I personally think that a game or even expansion of Call of Duty, would be awesome if it were based as an opposing force.

What do you think?

when you say "and i am not racist or neo..."
is this any referral to me and the name i had up until earlier this week ?

Jakob April 10th, 2004 03:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XLove & MutilationX
when you say "and i am not racist or neo..."
is this any referral to me and the name i had up until earlier this week ?

Yes, this post is ALL about you, we are constantly talking about YOU... Maybe you should read the ENTIRE message? It is about a single player game based on a charactor on the axis side, instead of allies.

AzH April 10th, 2004 03:45 AM

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easy now.........

CamBo April 10th, 2004 09:11 AM

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it should have an italian campaign, german campaign, japanese campaign but it would be like CoD. mabe

XLove & MutilationX April 10th, 2004 12:22 PM

Re: A new look at Call Of Duty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakob
Yes, this post is ALL about you, we are constantly talking about YOU... Maybe you should read the ENTIRE message? It is about a single player game based on a charactor on the axis side, instead of allies.

it was only a simple question so calm the fuck down.

Jakob April 13th, 2004 12:58 AM

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bump

*Soviet.Power April 13th, 2004 10:17 AM

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Quote:

i wonder why there isn't a single player (3d shooter) like this. Maybe gamedevelopers think that this games would't sell that good? or that the "sociaty" qould consider this kind of game "wrong"? IMO there is nothing wrong with it as long as you don't have to shoot jews/transport jews etc. There is nothing wrong with a singleplayer game where you play a german soldier in the regular army during ww2. They ould even make a level where you could shorten the war by giving you the oppertunity to assassinate Hitler. (maybe somewhere on the end of the game, where you gained much faim because of your actions, you are invited on some kind of special parade/party and there you can -but don't have too- kill hitler or some other highranking nazi OR you could betray your comrades and tell the gestapo about the plot).
Yeah, that would be a good idea. They could make it like Deus Ex, where you have to rise up through the ranks of the German army, making your own decisions, and eventually an alternative ending, like in Deus Ex, could be to assasinate Hitler.
Good idea.

M!tch April 13th, 2004 11:20 AM

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i would like to see more stuff about japan/american/british conflict as most games seem to concentrate on europe, although as im not much of a hard core gamer i might have missed out on a game that has this already so put me right if u like . ive only played sof2, CoD and Far Cry so mebbe i need pointing in the right direction .

*Soviet.Power April 17th, 2004 05:07 AM

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Hmm, if there is anyone who can program games, they could make like an online mod. or the developers could make an add-on game with Japan, Italien and German missions. That would be cool. I would buy it.

SMB3 April 17th, 2004 06:11 AM

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italian missions would be sweet, but i bet the reason why there are never any in any WW2 games is cuz they didnt really do much in the war... the only real battle they engaged in was the sicilian invasion

M!tch April 19th, 2004 07:26 PM

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or how about north africa ? mongomery v rommel never seen that before

ManiK April 19th, 2004 07:33 PM

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I would love that in a CoD expansion, speeding across the desert in my M3 Stuart :D


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