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Old February 11th, 2013   #1
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Default Life in the Dead Sea

Actually not that long ago (about 2 years), oceanographers discovered a few interesting specimens:

New Life-Forms Found at Bottom of Dead Sea

I should mention the dead sea has been quite fascinating to me for a long time, and I think that's because it is interesting to see how a (supposedly) habitable location for sea creatures became blocked off over years and is now...well...for the most part, dead. Then again, big, open oceans have always held kind of a scary fascination for me.

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Old February 12th, 2013   #2
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Default Re: Life in the Dead Sea

/snark They must have awful heart problems /endsnark

That's actually incredible that any organism could thrive in that environment besides primitive (more simplistic than bacteria) organisms, but life is determined, it usually finds a way to thrive even in some of the most caustic and poisonous environments, even those most devoid of resources. Adding a sleepy thought, but if penguins were intelligent enough and had the resources, if they made an Antarctican flag, what do you think it would look like?



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icon_question Re: Life in the Dead Sea

That almost defies logic. For centuries, sailors have encased meats and other foods in tombs of salt to prevent bacteria from forming, preserving the food for the long voyage. But now we have a bacteria that thrives in hyper-saline environments ()?

Furthermore, the fact that they are filtering the water, and spewing fresh water into the sea......what are the bacteria doing with the salt? Sounds to me like this is not a bacteria at all, only resembling it. Instead, it sounds more like some sort of Sodium-based lifeform.

In any case, I will have to watch this closely, and see what new discoveries are made here.
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Sounds to me like a solution to our desalination problems....

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A natural solution. You cannot get much better than that.


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Default Re: Life in the Dead Sea

Maybe. I agree that nature has evolved some amazingly elegant solutions. However, the odds of it having evolved something better than people will ever be able to design are low, we imagine things far faster than organisms mutate, and rather than doing mutation and selection on a genetic level people can design by compacting the potential search-space as a series of nested concepts.

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We can see what's coming, to a degree. Evolution's blind, nature's slow. People are smart and fast, and powerful enough to be exceptionally dangerous to themselves.... The problem is people don't know as much as they think they do and are subject to all sorts of biases; we're smart enough to mess up and do some really serious damage when we get things wrong.

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Default Re: Life in the Dead Sea

I agree with Nem. This hipster notion that 'natural is always better than artificial' is rooted in sentimentality. Sometimes it can be, but usually a big, industrial desalination plant is the way to go.

Besides, I would argue that everything we build is 'natural', as we are just animals who are as much a part of nature as anything else. Most people consider termite mounds and beaver dams to be natural, and by the same logic so are skyscrapers and space shuttles.

Anyway, sounds like they're going to have to rename the Dead Sea. I vote for the Not-So-Dead-As-We-Thought-But-Still-Pretty-Dead Sea.
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Default Re: Life in the Dead Sea

Maybe it is meant to be for them to find new life in the Dead Sea.
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