The United States of America needs to fall

[Crusader]

Originally Posted by The One and Only

I'm afraid that at this time of night I can't think of a better response to you than my first thought, which was of course: "Fuck right off."

People are protesting because their country has completely screwed them over and ruined their chances of making a decent life for themselves. Myself included: A Level educated from a good school, living in an area where it should be easy to find a job, yet I can't get a bloody thing (and I'm far from being the only one here) and I'm going to come out of higher education in three years time with £27000 debt, if I get the chance to go at all.

What we need is a government that's willing to come down like a ton of bricks on banks and companies who are acting irresponsibly, dodging taxes, and paying themselves inordinate sums of money as "bonuses", and start giving something back to the public who they're supposed to be serving.

yeah, it suddenly all matters when it happens to Students and the middle class, working class and labourers have been getting the rough end of the stick for generations and years and it never mattered to half the people who are now "making their voices heard" as new changes are affecting their social group.

All you ever hear about this reccession is the Middle Classes moaning that they cant run over two cars and go on decent holidays anymore, it makes me bloody laugh.

For the working classes, unless we lose our jobs, our lives aint even effected, as nothing has changed for us anyway, our money is always mainly taken. End result is its often us who face the Redundancy from work, because those higher up the ladder never want a decrease in their lifestyle, even though even their lifestyle decreased is lightyears better than ours.

[Pethegreat]

Is this a democracy you're trying to explain, because it sounds like the exact opposite. The general public doesn't have the time to learn half the things about how a country works - that's why the PEOPLE can elect someone who does! If you don't let people have a say because they don't understand, you're narrowing it down to a select few people who do have a say.

The founding fathers intended to have an educated voting public. For the most part that is why at the start only white, land owning males could vote. In that time only white land owning males had a real education.

What you're proposing is an Oligarchy, a system where the elite (or in your case the few who are educated) have the say in what goes. Which is basically tyranny. And few people in America would want that, but I guess that's what you're getting at isn't it?

I would still prefer it to the Oligarchy that we have today where the only people who have a real say also have boat loads of money. Today anyone with enough drive can work their way through the university system and get a PhD. Going from nothing to the super rich is more luck than drive.