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Old November 18th, 2011   #11
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We just need to kick out all the current politicians and start from a clean slate.
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We just need to kick out all the current politicians and start from a clean slate.
This is the idea I was getting at. Not a complete collapse of the US, but a collapse of what it's become, it's current government and most of what it encompasses and stands for. For crying out loud, they think pizza is a vegetable. Tomatos are a fucking fruit!

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For good reason. Carlin was an astute and funny observer.

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This is the idea I was getting at. Not a complete collapse of the US, but a collapse of what it's become, it's current government and most of what it encompasses and stands for. For crying out loud, they think pizza is a vegetable. Tomatos are a fucking fruit!
No, the money tells them that pizza is a vegetable. That's problem B with the US govt.*: lobbying. Big business is trying to get laws built around themselves favoring themselves and their income stream. Where do you think the SOPA and PROTECT IP bullshit comes from?

*Problem A is immaturity.
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For good reason. Carlin was an astute and funny observer.
I think he's completely over-hyped. I agree with him, but I think people need to stop praising him like a god.
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That's ironic since he's a very vocal atheist.
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I think he's completely over-hyped. I agree with him, but I think people need to stop praising him like a god.
All good (and many bad) things get over-hyped. It's the nature of our communication. We use hyperbole to express that we feel strongly about an issue or thing. Carlin was very funny and quite smart. This combines to make him one of the best/smartest public voices in recent American history.

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We just need to kick out all the current politicians and start from a clean slate.
Do like Italy? Put technocrats as ministers, instead of politicians...

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Isn't Italy rather on par with Greece right now?

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We just need to oust our childish leaders for more intelligent representatives.
The people need to stop electing representatives as a whole. We don't need a guy/girl running anything just because he/she won a popularity contest which is what voting has evolved into.

Positions of leadership should be filled by the most skilled people, not the ones with an ideology or a list campaign promises. Do away with congress and presidency as a whole and let the experts make the calls. Decisions in economic matters would be decided by a group of expert economists. Energy policy would be done by a group of energy experts, education by education experts. The groups would be open sessions for the public, but there would be no lobbying by anyone. The bill of rights would still be around, but people would only be able to vote for local representatives.

The US has the best system of colleges in the world that produce the best of the best in nearly all areas of study. It is about time we put all of that brain power to use.

The other option is to simply wait long enough for our robot lords to take over the earth and hope that they don't exterminate us.
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