'Shocking man is murdered'

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by Huffardo

I'll make an exception for them and support their death penalty if it can be made slow and very painful to remind other potential serial killers that the punishment can be worse than they expected it to be.

That seems unnecessarily cruel, you don't really need to make their deaths bad, you just have to give the impression. 'What the eyes see and the ears hear the mind believes.'

[Sh0wdowN]

Originally Posted by Nemmerle

That seems unnecessarily cruel, you don't really need to make their deaths bad, you just have to give the impression. 'What the eyes see and the ears hear the mind believes.'

But it's sadism under the pretense of justice! Human malice at its finest.

Actually, though, I support vigilantism, and 'eye for an eye' justice in this case. Similar to the justice dealt in the Saw-movies, even though the punishment is handed to people generally undeserving of it, I feel it's all and well in this case, due to personal conviction. I would like to induce a feeling of regret and have them repent, because they realize what they did to others. And I'd want to induce that feeling in them every day, for the rest of their lives. But I won't call it justice, I'll call it conditional sadism.

[Serio]

Originally Posted by kow_ciller

I think its funny how most Europeans say that the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment and say that people shouldn't be allowed to carry guns. Then they see stuff like this and call for the death penalty.

There's probably more American's saying death penalty is cruel. The majority of the people i know from Europe say that the death penalty is the easy way out. No suffering, no pain, and no regret. Drop them in a dungeon and permanently seal the room, then fill it slowly with water, and force them to swim for food with only a single air pocket.

[Lyon]

Originally Posted by kow_ciller

I think its funny how most Europeans say that the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment and say that people shouldn't be allowed to carry guns. Then they see stuff like this and call for the death penalty.

In this instance, it probably would have been better if the victims were carrying guns. But then what would have stopped the murderers from carrying guns as well?

[Nemmerle]

The deaths would likely have been quicker if it had been a gun fight. Though in practical terms it doesn't matter what the parties were armed with, once someone's got the drop on someone who hasn't noticed there's not a lot that can be done about it whether it's guns, knives, or just plain old fashioned knuckles.

[AlDaja]

Well, we live in a global culture that anything goes and thereby accountability and morality do not apply as these kind of kids see themselves above the laws or religious damnation put in place by “conformist adults”, so consequences are not worth worry about and this kind of thing is only going to continue among young people as society slips further off the deep end. Three 4th grade Hispanic boys (brothers) were just arrested in my town this morning for pummeling a little girl to death for the same kind of shit. Under Colorado law they can face the death penalty and the boys parents (clueless, of course about their children’s behavior) were both on work visas and are facing deportation – while their kids remain in detention. I live in hicksville and race tensions between Mexican Hispanics and the host of other races here in Colorado are on a thin wire to begin with…sure you can guess the fate of these three boys.

[Serio]

Originally Posted by Lyon

In this instance, it probably would have been better if the victims were carrying guns. But then what would have stopped the murderers from carrying guns as well?

And what stops everyone from attacking eachother, anyways? Sympathy? Regret? Fear? Respect?

[iDeekz]

Dude, I watched both videos and I'm really disturbed. I wish I never looked at this thread or watched the videos, its truly disgusting.

How did they even attack or capture the people, just by smacking them on the head or what?

[SpaZy]

The picked on people who would not fight back, so people in wheelchairs etc. they would offer them aride and stuff, and bassicaly treated them nicely, then drove them out to the forest and yea

[Deems..]

Shocking men get murdered all the time. I think it's because they have a tendency to sneak up on people.