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Old1 November 14th, 2008 04:59 PM

For all you downloaders !
 
:naughty: Iff you download a lot then i have a piece of good advice for you. Before you download a mod go to downloads.com and download the free download accellerator cause it will cut your download time in half at least. If a download at first took 30 minutes then it will now take less then 15 minutes. You will be able to download at speeds up to 900 kb/sec.:naughty::cya::rofl:

xX~HR~Xx November 14th, 2008 08:42 PM

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well i downloaded the Download Accelerator Plus thing and my downloads arent goin 900Kbs they only improved by atleast 50-75 kbs to make it about 150-175 kbs for a download.

could you post the link for the 900kbs accelerator?

Old1 November 15th, 2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by delta62 (Post 4681255)
well i downloaded the Download Accelerator Plus thing and my downloads arent goin 900Kbs they only improved by atleast 50-75 kbs to make it about 150-175 kbs for a download.

could you post the link for the 900kbs accelerator?

I downloaded the free download accellerator and then i downloaded AEM 5.3 at a speed of 853 kb/sec. Ofcource it depends on what kind of speed you had in the first place in my case i was allready downloading at 450 kb/sec. before i downloaded the accellerator. So for me it works nicely. But i think it may be different for others. My internetprovider has 5 packages with 5 different speeds and i have the fastest but 1. So for me it makes a lot of difference but for you with a slower package it will still be slow. Although not as slow as it used to be.:cya:

Admiral Antilles November 17th, 2008 04:14 PM

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Moved to General Yib-Yab (Off Topic).

Not for Empire at War Rants and Raves, Me boy.

Mr. Mikey November 17th, 2008 04:20 PM

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Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting

/me looks on downloads.com

Metall_pingwin November 17th, 2008 04:24 PM

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Download accelerators are a pile of steaming poop. I want somebody to explain to me, just how a piece of software is going to expand your bandwidth.

Serio November 17th, 2008 04:27 PM

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I never use accelerators. They never work. I get 1 mb/sec without an accelerator, and 900 KB/sec with one.

Arld November 17th, 2008 04:30 PM

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DAP Premium does work though, I think... At least, I went from ~3000 kb/sec up to ~4500 kb/sec.

nason November 17th, 2008 04:33 PM

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it works fine for me
now things download like twice as fast

Metall_pingwin November 17th, 2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JM_Bane (Post 4684576)
DAP Premium does work though, I think... At least, I went from ~3000 kb/sec up to ~4500 kb/sec.

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Originally Posted by nason (Post 4684587)
it works fine for me
now things download like twice as fast

I still say it's the placebo effect.

>Omen< November 17th, 2008 06:08 PM

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The only thing I've seen boost my download speed is Auslogic's BoostSpeed. I have a 1.5Mb connection and have tested as high as 1.9Mb with BoostSpeed.

Serio November 17th, 2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JM_Bane (Post 4684576)
DAP Premium does work though, I think... At least, I went from ~3000 kb/sec up to ~4500 kb/sec.

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Originally Posted by nason (Post 4684587)
it works fine for me
now things download like twice as fast

Both of you should probably consider the fact there's something wrong with your router/modem, or whatever you use. When i had 1 MBit, it didn't do anything. When i had 5 MBit, it didn't do anything. I have 8 MBit now, and it still doesn't do anything.

Mr. Pedantic November 17th, 2008 06:24 PM

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My downloads already go at 1MB/s, so I think it's fast enough.

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Download accelerators are a pile of steaming poop. I want somebody to explain to me, just how a piece of software is going to expand your bandwidth.
It basically opens heaps and heaps of connections to the server, meaning that it can saturate your connection. This means that if you don't actually go over your theoretical 'maximum' speed, then at least it's going exactly that fast. That's one of the reason I hate downloading from Filefront, because it doesn't let met do that and my downloads all go at 50kB/s, instead of what they should be, which is about 20x faster.

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Both of you should probably consider the fact there's something wrong with your router/modem, or whatever you use. When i had 1 MBit, it didn't do anything. When i had 5 MBit, it didn't do anything. I have 8 MBit now, and it still doesn't do anything.
I guess it depends on what sort of internet connection you have. Download accelerators and the such don't work for me anymore in regards to increasing speed (though they are useful for starting and stopping downloads...) because my connection is now wired. However, before, on a wireless connection (as in I didn't get my connection through any wires, not I was on a WLAN in my house) the download accelerator I used strengthened my connection no end because of the extra connections it established, and it sped up my download because of it. So not just problems with routers/modems.

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I still say it's the placebo effect.
There's no such thing as a placebo effect when you are dealing with quantitative tests.

Pethegreat November 17th, 2008 08:39 PM

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I can download at 5mb/s off of steam. I am on a university network so there is no limit to the bandwidth that I will be able to find under normal downloading circumstances. I tested the connection and I was getting around 20MBit.

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There's no such thing as a placebo effect when you are dealing with quantitative tests.
Download speed varies based on server bandwidth and user bandwidth. The program may appear to be helping but it may just be more bandwidth being open.

Serio November 17th, 2008 09:15 PM

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I thought most ISP's had no bandwidth limit? At least, none in my area does.

Mr. Pedantic November 17th, 2008 09:45 PM

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I thought most ISP's had no bandwidth limit? At least, none in my area does.
Lucky you. Do you have a 'data cap', where if you use more than a certain amount per month you get penalized for it in some way?

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Download speed varies based on server bandwidth and user bandwidth. The program may appear to be helping but it may just be more bandwidth being open.
That is normally what a download manager or accelerator would do anyway, so that counts as a result of the manager, not due to any coincidences.

Huffardo November 17th, 2008 11:20 PM

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I have always doubted these things, perhaps they work, but I just downloaded OpenOffice 3 at 1,1 MB/s, and the switch in this house is only 10 Mbps, so I doubt it could help much.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic (Post 4684933)
Lucky you. Do you have a 'data cap', where if you use more than a certain amount per month you get penalized for it in some way?

Normal ISPs don't have any silly bandwidth limits around here, but since I'm on a free university line I actually have a sort of floating limit, the university doesn't want to pay extra for the traffic so they check the ten top bandwidth users for each month (or was it week, can't remember, but their bandwidth usages are IIRC on average over 10 GB a day for the surveillance period), and send them threats and sometimes even cut them off for a while. Never had that happen to me yet though, I aim to keep my downloads below 20 GB a week and usually stay a lot lower, although other activities obviously take a fair share of bandwidth too.

Serio November 17th, 2008 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic (Post 4684933)
Lucky you. Do you have a 'data cap', where if you use more than a certain amount per month you get penalized for it in some way?

Nope. I'm actually incredibly happy with my ISP. There's a rather "expensive" monthly fee for my current connection at 499 DKK, which equals 85 USD. Only downtime i've experienced is due to my pathetic router, and from time to time they actually upgrade without extra cost. The 85 USD was actually originally for the 5 MBit connection, but it was upgraded to 8 MBit a week after, due to increased funding apparently.

Mr. Pedantic November 17th, 2008 11:37 PM

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I aim to keep my downloads below 20 GB a week
woah...we get 20GB a month, after which is drops down to dialup speed.

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Nope. I'm actually incredibly happy with my ISP. There's a rather "expensive" monthly fee for my current connection at 499 DKK, which equals 85 USD. Only downtime i've experienced is due to my pathetic router, and from time to time they actually upgrade without extra cost. The 85 USD was actually originally for the 5 MBit connection, but it was upgraded to 8 MBit a week after, due to increased funding apparently.
Oh, okay. Our plan is about 85 NZD, but that includes tolls as well, so just for the broadband is about 35 USD.

Bs|Archaon November 18th, 2008 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic (Post 4684749)
There's no such thing as a placebo effect when you are dealing with quantitative tests.

Placebo effect no. Coincidences yes.

Mr. Pedantic November 18th, 2008 09:47 AM

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Placebo effect no. Coincidences yes.
True. But what coincidences could occur? When you download things without an accelerator they go slow, when you download with an accelerator they go fast. What sort of coincidences are there?

Arld November 18th, 2008 09:51 AM

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I'm almost certain DLAs do advance your download speed. Didn't notice anything if it comes to uploading.

Enterprise2002 November 18th, 2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic (Post 4685321)
True. But what coincidences could occur? When you download things without an accelerator they go slow, when you download with an accelerator they go fast. What sort of coincidences are there?

Pretty much everything that influences your speed anyway.
Demand on server at that time, demand in your local area, etc etc...

Mr. Pedantic November 18th, 2008 01:37 PM

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Pretty much everything that influences your speed anyway.
Demand on server at that time, demand in your local area, etc etc...
Demand is not going to change too much within ten or fifteen minutes, so that's not a factor. Again, the demand on the server is not going to change much within such a short period of time, and in any case, you can run test downloads off really obscure, or private servers.

Homer Gonerson November 18th, 2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Metall_pingwin (Post 4684569)
Download accelerators are a pile of steaming poop. I want somebody to explain to me, just how a piece of software is going to expand your bandwidth.

I use DownThemAll! for Firefox, which downloads it all in parts, similar to a torrent, I really do have a big increase in speeds. I can't explain exactly how it works, it just does. Only problem I've noticed so far is that FileFront doesn't like it, I get a 403 error every time. Works well for pausing and resuming downloads though, useful for when I gotta go somewhere with my laptop in the middle of a download.

Old1 November 19th, 2008 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Antilles (Post 4684558)
Moved to General Yib-Yab (Off Topic).

Not for Empire at War Rants and Raves, Me boy.

Me boy ????? Watch what you are saying and to whom. Boy indeed i am old enough to be your father and i don't think you say that to him or do you ?

Old1 November 20th, 2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JM_Bane (Post 4685327)
I'm almost certain DLAs do advance your download speed. Didn't notice anything if it comes to uploading.

Ofcource you didn't cause then it wouldn't be a DLA but a ULA AKA an upload accellerator.

Homer Gonerson November 20th, 2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Old1 (Post 4686536)
Watch what you are saying and to whom. Boy indeed i am old enough to be your father and i don't think you say that to him or do you ?

I think you have that backwards. You should watch what you say to the mods. You might be older, but they are higher on the food chain. Many people have gotten the boot after disrespecting the wrong person, regardless of the age difference.

Orchidea November 20th, 2008 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer Gonerson (Post 4687964)
I think you have that backwards. You should watch what you say to the mods. You might be older, but they are higher on the food chain. Many people have gotten the boot after disrespecting the wrong person, regardless of the age difference.

Blah blah blah, rip that tongue out of the moderators a**.

Sh0wdowN November 20th, 2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Old1 (Post 4686536)
Me boy ????? Watch what you are saying and to whom. Boy indeed i am old enough to be your father and i don't think you say that to him or do you ?

You're too old for the Internet.

Mr. Matt November 21st, 2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Metall_pingwin (Post 4684569)
Download accelerators are a pile of steaming poop. I want somebody to explain to me, just how a piece of software is going to expand your bandwidth.

Well, the Internet is a series of tubes and when you download something, thousands of tiny minions leg it down the tubes and pick up bits of the file you want, and then carry them back. Then they rebuild the file and place it on your hard disk.

A download accelerator is like a mercenary force; it brings in a few hundred extra tiny minions, only these minions are angry, smoke a lot of cigars, beat the shit out of your regular minions and get very pissed off over very insignificant things. When the tubes break and your download pauses, for example, they will clamber out into the 'real world', find your account manager from your ISP, and slowly dismantle him instead of the file.

Download managers obviously don't work for you because you fail to pay the tiny, mercenary minions enough money and they go and work for somebody else instead.

That's the theory anyway. In practice it has something to do with automatic mirror searching and downloading files in multiple segments simultaneously thus saturating your bandwidth. They are somewhat handy even if you don't notice or need a speed increase, as most of them can resume downloading a file if it was interrupted, and can manage bandwidth usage so that you can continue to browse the internet uninterrupted. I don't use them because they suck donkey balls, however.

DigitalDistortion November 21st, 2008 11:14 AM

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I always thought it was a placebo effect too but I don't mind running the tests to see

Old1 November 22nd, 2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Homer Gonerson (Post 4687964)
I think you have that backwards. You should watch what you say to the mods. You might be older, but they are higher on the food chain. Many people have gotten the boot after disrespecting the wrong person, regardless of the age difference.

:rofl:I thought that you would see that as funny but now you make me think that you lack a sence of humor.:rofl:

Old1 November 22nd, 2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0wdowN (Post 4688256)
You're too old for the Internet.

:smokin: Nobody and i do mean nobody is ever to old for the internet.:smokin:

Old1 December 29th, 2008 04:58 PM

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Since i submitted this thread i have found out something disturbing about the download accellerator. It makes mistakes!!! For instance when it downloads sertain files that you need to make a program run better and that you need to install after downloading you will find that you can't do that cause the file has become something you can't do anything with. So please forget my first "good advice " and remember this one.

ds girl December 30th, 2008 02:39 AM

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I love download.com :)

Haven't tried the accelerator though...is it any good?

Old1 January 1st, 2009 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ds girl (Post 4746454)
I love download.com :)

Haven't tried the accelerator though...is it any good?

If you download anything with a low download speed like 150 kb/s then yes it is good but it depends on the time that you are downloading and keep in mind that it doesn't allways work. Furthermore like i said it makes mistakes. For instance if you have a program called SFC3 than you need a file called: build patch 354 b . If you download it with the accellerator then you can't install it after downloading cause the accellerator changes the file from an exe file into a nonaccessable file. So in that case it won't work.:bawl:


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