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bud389 July 8th, 2008 09:00 AM

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lol, i wanna know what movie/video this is from cause the acting is just HORRENDOUS.

Chocu1a July 8th, 2008 09:59 AM

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he shook her to death!. Ahnold is a wooman beatah

VFrieden July 8th, 2008 10:13 AM

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:rofl:

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Originally Posted by bud389 (Post 4424273)
lol, i wanna know what movie/video this is from cause the acting is just HORRENDOUS.

I'm not sure, but my guess is Hercules in New York.

Dragonelf68 July 8th, 2008 10:57 AM

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He looks like he's on steroids.

The Body Popper July 8th, 2008 12:24 PM

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Its huculeas in new york. That was his first movie. His accent was so bad, they had to dub him over.

HairySheep July 8th, 2008 12:54 PM

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HAHA!!:rofl: the Governator has man boobies!

bud389 July 8th, 2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonelf68 (Post 4424514)
He looks like he's on steroids.

He only used steroids when they were legal and didn't use them for muscle growth but muscle maintenance.

G A Z M A Z K July 8th, 2008 01:57 PM

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She should have had a V8!

Sh0wdowN July 8th, 2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frieden (Post 4424437)
I'm not sure, but my guess is Hercules in New York.

My guess is Hercules wasn't very passioanate about bodybuilding.

Commissar MercZ July 8th, 2008 02:20 PM

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Despite how funny this is, I would never pick a fight with him :S

Captain Fist July 8th, 2008 02:36 PM

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I would. He's old now.

Besides, you can be a massive, inhumanely strong bodybuilder but that doesn't mean you can fight.

G A Z M A Z K July 8th, 2008 02:50 PM

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yea but if he punches you once would you get up?

Relander July 8th, 2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagel Meister
yea but if he punches you once would you get up?

Not to mention he propably could take quite a few hits before he would be down.

Funny video I have to say though "nobody is a born blacksmith".

lxGuNnyxl July 8th, 2008 03:08 PM

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Holy God!!:rofl: that was AMAZING!

Sh0wdowN July 8th, 2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagel Meister (Post 4424886)
yea but if he punches you once would you get up?

Most bodybuilders don't train their explosive strength, as much, so while he would indubiously be strong when it came to crushing strength, such as a bear hug, the muscle is utilized in quite a different way when punching. And then of course technique plays a large role. Meaning his punches, unless he was trained, would probably not be all that, but if he got a hold of you, you'd probably be in a bit of trouble.

G A Z M A Z K July 8th, 2008 03:21 PM

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lol but imagine if he punched you still.. even if he wasnt trained... it might hurt alot lol

Sh0wdowN July 8th, 2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagel Meister (Post 4424959)
lol but imagine if he punched you still.. even if he wasnt trained... it might hurt alot lol

Someone quite lighter than him, if trained, would probably be able to produce a punch with more momentum than him, but I don't deny he would have the potential to put a lot of weight behind his punches, his muscles are not indicative of punching power, which is a common misconception.

To draw a rather crude analogy, imagine a large truck and a light-weight motorcycle. Now imagine one scenario where the large truck drives into you at 5 mph, and another where the light-weight motorcycle drives into you at 30 mph. The latter one would hurt considerably more, and I realize it's a very flawed comparison, but it's just to illustrate my point that his muscles aren't trained for speed, but for lifting heavy weights.

G A Z M A Z K July 8th, 2008 03:33 PM

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i understand lol im not saying someone thats lighter and train couldn't hurt more im just saying arnold would probably hurt al ot to lol

Monster_user July 8th, 2008 03:47 PM

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To complete the analogy, if a Truck hits you at eight miles/kilometers an hour, and a bike hits you at the same speed.

The truck is not likely to stop when it hits you. Its going to have a good bit more momentum behind it. The bike may just stop.

Arnold may not have had much of a reach, or fighting technique, but he had power. A well trained fighter could take down any untrained opponent, no matter how great his muscles. However, few untrained fighters could match a body builder in one-on-one combat. Once he gets ahold of you, your done for. And he can hurt somebody, badly.

Mad Cat MkII July 8th, 2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HairySheep (Post 4424666)
HAHA!!:rofl: the Governator has man boobies!

no those are all muscle so there pecks. These are man boobs, or moobs
http://http://i138.photobucket.com/a...l/MAnBoobs.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/MAnBoobs.jpg
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Originally Posted by Sh0wdowN (Post 4424951)
Most bodybuilders don't train their explosive strength, as much, so while he would indubiously be strong when it came to crushing strength, such as a bear hug, the muscle is utilized in quite a different way when punching. And then of course technique plays a large role. Meaning his punches, unless he was trained, would probably not be all that, but if he got a hold of you, you'd probably be in a bit of trouble.

yes but remember Arnold was well known for the fact that even though he was incredibly big, he could still move with the best of them, so now hes a truck moving at 30 mph, that and with all the action movies hes done hes probably gotten some formal martial arts training, so he could through a punch.

Sh0wdowN July 8th, 2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Monster_user (Post 4425045)
To complete the analogy, if a Truck hits you at eight miles/kilometers an hour, and a bike hits you at the same speed.

The truck is not likely to stop when it hits you. Its going to have a good bit more momentum behind it. The bike may just stop.

Arnold may not have had much of a reach, or fighting technique, but he had power. A well trained fighter could take down any untrained opponent, no matter how great his muscles. However, few untrained fighters could match a body builder in one-on-one combat. Once he gets ahold of you, your done for. And he can hurt somebody, badly.

I'm not sure if I agree that someone lighter would move at the same speed, because of the very fact they're lighter. The bodybuilder would have to move more, and lose valuable speed. That's why there's been quite a few boxers who've noticed their punches were harder/snappier when they were lighter, and they lost that as they gained more muscle.

But this is all hypothetical nonsense with no foundation in actuality. :riles:

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yes but remember Arnold was well known for the fact that even though he was incredibly big, he could still move with the best of them, so now hes a truck moving at 30 mph, that and with all the action movies hes done hes probably gotten some formal martial arts training, so he could through a punch.
Certainly, but now you're going beyond the point I was trying to make. Most people say "oh, I wouldn't fight him!", but that's not because they'd be careful of his potential martial arts experience -- in fact, they don't even consider it. Most people just think that because of his size, and I'm just trying to explain that size has very little to do with it, usually (note how I said 'usually').

Mad Cat MkII July 8th, 2008 04:06 PM

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np just adding to the discussion as I've noticed i've been lurking more and i wanted to add my 2 cents in.

HairySheep July 8th, 2008 04:42 PM

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has anyone heard the story about him breaking his leg during competition?
not sure of how true it is, but it is very popular...
back during his body building career, Arnold broke his leg on stage during a competition, he popped the bone back into placed and went ahead with the competition in extreme pain, but he stayed through the entire event

Monster_user July 8th, 2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0wdowN (Post 4425057)
I'm not sure if I agree that someone lighter would move at the same speed, because of the very fact they're lighter. The bodybuilder would have to move more, and lose valuable speed.

A body builder can't move as fast as a smaller opponent. However, his immense size means that he can withstand more powerful hits.

I think that 30mph might be a bit extreme.

Imagine a motorcycle and a loaded truck hitting a car at 20mph, and 5mph respectively.

HairySheep July 8th, 2008 05:09 PM

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you mean more like 15mph? i think that is generally fairly quick for a human, 30mph is hard on a bike

bud389 July 8th, 2008 05:37 PM

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Does it really matter? I mean, yea, ok, a jujitsu master could take down Arnold pretty quick but i mean, those 200 pound weights have to have some kind of effect on his punching and thrusting power.

HairySheep July 8th, 2008 05:59 PM

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200lb? that is nothing , i knew several kids at highschool who could do that
but Arnold could bench press 540lbs unassisted

bud389 July 8th, 2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HairySheep (Post 4425306)
200lb? that is nothing , i knew several kids at highschool who could do that
but Arnold could bench press 540lbs unassisted

Exactly!

dreadlord12 July 8th, 2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HairySheep (Post 4425306)
200lb? that is nothing , i knew several kids at highschool who could do that
but Arnold could bench press 540lbs unassisted

damn, wouldnt it be nice to be able to bench that:p

Jeffro July 8th, 2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihaterednecks (Post 4424852)
I would. He's old now.

He'd break your ass like a toothpick.

G A Z M A Z K July 8th, 2008 07:56 PM

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maybe if i had a v8 and some mentos i could take arnold..

bud389 July 9th, 2008 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihaterednecks (Post 4424852)
I would. He's old now.

So it Stallone but that hasn't stopped him.

HairySheep July 9th, 2008 09:05 AM

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Stallone = The only Navy Seal who carries a backpack full of Cortisone shots

Liquid fire July 9th, 2008 03:29 PM

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Lol

Agn July 9th, 2008 04:38 PM

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Holy crap, that poor women.

gravy666 July 9th, 2008 05:37 PM

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I didn't know Ahnold is a wife beater.

Mr. Matt July 10th, 2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Razzi (Post 4427334)
I didn't know Ahnold is a wife beater.

There was a big kerfuffle about it on the news after the Terminator became the Governator, you know.

Captain Fist July 10th, 2008 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bud389 (Post 4426102)
So it Stallone but that hasn't stopped him.

Two different people.

I contend with Showdown. He explained it far better than I ever could. And I reiterate: Just because you can lift heavy objects doesn't mean you throw a punch properly or fight. It means your strong.

bud389 July 10th, 2008 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihaterednecks (Post 4427833)
Two different people.

I contend with Showdown. He explained it far better than I ever could. And I reiterate: Just because you can lift heavy objects doesn't mean you throw a punch properly or fight. It means your strong.

Yes, but no one knows if arnold can fight or not and since he's been in a hell of alot of action movies i'd assume he has more then enough experiance to hold his own.

Besides, only true fighting is to have two guys each standing in front of eachother, fists raised, slightly hunched over, circling eachother, then starting to brawl, none of that fancy judo crap.

Mr. Matt July 10th, 2008 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bud389 (Post 4428151)
Yes, but no one knows if arnold can fight or not and since he's been in a hell of alot of action movies i'd assume he has more then enough experiance to hold his own.

Besides, only true fighting is to have two guys each standing in front of eachother, fists raised, slightly hunched over, circling eachother, then starting to brawl, none of that fancy judo crap.

I guarantee you that if one of those people has judo training, and the other person is you, then the guy with judo training would win. Although judo in itself is a pretty shitty martial art, but that's beside the point. I was talking generally, and even though judo is shit it's quite a healthy sport to engage in (unless you're quite a fit person yourself, in which case I revoke all of my statements and apologise).

bud389 July 10th, 2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Matt (Post 4428163)
I guarantee you that if one of those people has judo training, and the other person is you, then the guy with judo training would win. Although judo in itself is a pretty shitty martial art, but that's beside the point. I was talking generally, and even though judo is shit it's quite a healthy sport to engage in (unless you're quite a fit person yourself, in which case I revoke all of my statements and apologise).



Nuff said. Karate and other kinds of martial arts may look nice, but kmon, it's only efficient of its another guy using the same.

I'm more of a boxer kind a guy myself

G A Z M A Z K July 10th, 2008 04:34 PM

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looks like boxing is the best.. iunno whatever is most best..

Mad Cat MkII July 10th, 2008 04:49 PM

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except it's obvious that the karate guys are not actually going full force. There were like 6 kicks landed and there was no actual force behind them. speaking from experience the human leg is way more powerful than the fist will ever be. I have knocked over boxing bags, and have been hit once in the upper chest and was sent airborne. Flew back a good 7 feet before i hit the ground again.

bud389 July 10th, 2008 05:13 PM

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Theres not so much force to it as just weight going into it. Arms can also block kicks and you can also break your leg kicking someone with too much force, as i have seen it happen in a kick boxing video.

Mad Cat MkII July 10th, 2008 05:30 PM

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and you can break your arm by applying to much force, seen it in a arm wrestling video. Generally though a kick can apply enough force where even blocked its going to hurt a hell of a lot and knock them off their balance.

Also only people who don't know how to kick put there weight into it. Unlike a punch if you put your weight into it and miss your going to fall over. any for of martial arts is going to teach you how to shadow box full force and still retain your balance. the power comes from the snap and speed of the kick. O and a round house kick has absolutely nothing to do with your weight as its a rotating kick and all your weight is placed on the other foot.

Captain Fist July 10th, 2008 08:56 PM

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Bud is an idiot. I bet you anything that I can find a Karate, Jujutsu, or Jeet Kune Do practitioner who will beat the living the shit our a boxer. It's not the martial art, it's the one who practices it.

Do you even know what Judo is? It's used a lot in the UFC, it's even fucking recommended before you go into Brazilian Ju-Jitsu. It's grappling, it's ground fighting, there are no "fancy moves." It's a watered down version of a Jujutsu, yes, but that doens't make it useless.

According to Bruce Lee, the leg has the potential to do four times as much power as the fist.

Let me reiterate again: ARNOLD IS FUCKING OLD. HAVE YOU SEEN HIM LATELY? HE'S FLAB.

bud389 July 11th, 2008 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihaterednecks (Post 4429752)
Bud is an idiot. I bet you anything that I can find a Karate, Jujutsu, or Jeet Kune Do practitioner who will beat the living the shit our a boxer. It's not the martial art, it's the one who practices it.

Do you even know what Judo is? It's used a lot in the UFC, it's even fucking recommended before you go into Brazilian Ju-Jitsu. It's grappling, it's ground fighting, there are no "fancy moves." It's a watered down version of a Jujutsu, yes, but that doens't make it useless.

According to Bruce Lee, the leg has the potential to do four times as much power as the fist.

Let me reiterate again: ARNOLD IS FUCKING OLD. HAVE YOU SEEN HIM LATELY? HE'S FLAB.

huh...

YouTube - MMA vs. Boxing

It's the one who practises it huh? Well, that may be it, but in those videos over there, Boxing was the clear victor. Thats saying something. Alls your doing is just putting down facts and quotes, not hard evidence.

Mabye you should also take a look at kick boxing and thai boxing.

Mad Cat MkII July 11th, 2008 12:40 PM

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how about this for hard evidence. I practiced karate for 10 years and have been in my fair share of bouts and know what im talking about.

bud389 July 11th, 2008 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Cat MkII (Post 4430625)
how about this for hard evidence. I practiced karate for 10 years and have been in my fair share of bouts and know what im talking about.

Yes, but how many of those bouts have you had with someone who boxed for 10 years?

Captain Fist July 12th, 2008 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bud389 (Post 4430260)
huh...

YouTube - MMA vs. Boxing

It's the one who practises it huh? Well, that may be it, but in those videos over there, Boxing was the clear victor. Thats saying something. Alls your doing is just putting down facts and quotes, not hard evidence.

Mabye you should also take a look at kick boxing and thai boxing.

All your doing is posting a single motherfucking video and claiming that boxing is better than anything. Boxing is fundamental part of most of the MMA fighter's careers. It's excellent, but it's not a the most the most destructive ultimate mega death art. Do I have provide "hard evidence" for something is common knowledge? Do you even know what I'm talking about?

Muay Thai, Pradal Serey and kickboxing are all a part of MMA. I RESPECT THOSE ARTS. I would love to train in either.


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