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Benzin October 7th, 2007 01:45 PM

Actually if all religion was banned, I'm sure it would even alot of things out. This "15 year old" seems to think that it's only christianity that are stopped from expressing their faith. Why don't you come to England where people don't give a flying fuck what you think because we all got past the point where religion is important in everyday life.

Roaming East October 7th, 2007 01:50 PM

hehe, i love this country. The constant balancing act between being an overbearing puritanical nation of God-Fearing pilgrims and also the worlds largest drug consuming, smut producing arms providers must make for interesting political debates.

Crazy Wolf October 7th, 2007 02:12 PM

Wait, are you suggesting that those two don't go hand in hand?

Roaming East October 7th, 2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf (Post 3966168)
Wait, are you suggesting that those two don't go hand in hand?

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition brother

Atrusino October 7th, 2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf (Post 3966058)
Do not put your fate in the hands of any organization designed to serve the lowest common denominator


That's what this country consists of.. Rich-ass politics payed for by the highest bidder to run the organizations put together for the lowest bidder.

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Originally Posted by Disturbing Sam (Post 3966075)
Actually if all religion was banned, I'm sure it would even alot of things out. This "15 year old" seems to think that it's only christianity that are stopped from expressing their faith. Why don't you come to England where people don't give a flying fuck what you think because we all got past the point where religion is important in everyday life.

If all religion was banned suddenly.. You'd have an 80%+ of Americans in an uproar.. You can't simply ban something. There were almost a trio of riots here in my home town when the No Smoking law got passed adn that wasn't even a ban.. Just a restriction.

Crazy Wolf October 7th, 2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Atrusino (Post 3966262)
That's what this country consists of.. Rich-ass politics payed for by the highest bidder to run the organizations put together for the lowest bidder...

And this affects my statement how? Just because you use something doesn't mean you should rely solely on it.

Atrusino October 7th, 2007 10:52 PM

You just don't get it I guess.. Do you realize that religious discussion is actually allowed nationally in schools? Teachers can actually discuss it.. Doesn't mean that atheist parents have to like it, but the fact remains that religion has not in any way been taken out of our government and government systems country-wide. It actually helps in some areas.. Sad thing is that you prolly won't be able to have a preist give you your last rights in the hostpital some day cause "It might offend someone".. All I'm sayin is that this country WAS founded on religious principals with god's name in mind.. And it is still prominent in several areas of government.. For how long? Who knows, but it aint causin harm to anyone who claims to have any sanity.

Crazy Wolf October 7th, 2007 11:35 PM

Oh, so those that are offended that their government favors one form of belief over another is now insane?

Religious discussion isn't the problem. Religious endorsement is. By stating "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, you are endorsing a monotheistic religion.

A priest can't give you your last rites soon? What Limbaugh-scented crap is that? If you are identified as Catholic, then I'm sure they'd consider it ok to do so. I personally would be pissed off that some organization I don't belong to is writing me off as dead, and that their writing me off as dead might influence the staff into not putting as much effort into saving my life as possible, because, "hey, he's had his last rites, now all we're doing is stopping him from going to God".

Please give me the data that states religion helps government and government systems country wide.
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All I'm sayin is that this country WAS founded on religious principals with god's name in mind..

I guess that post I made, what with that quote from the Tripoli Amendment, was completely ignored by you.
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And it is still prominent in several areas of government..

I hope that changes. The interests of any faith don't always coincide with those of the United States government, or the people it governs. Example: Abortion may be bad in the eyes of Gawd, but now that a generation has gone by with legalized abortion available, you'll see that crime rates have dropped.(Thanks, Freakonomics!) I suppose it isn't exactly moral to go "gee, it seems that a lesser amount of unwanted , abused, neglected children means a lesser amount of criminals, so abortion must be ok!" in your world.

Roaming East October 7th, 2007 11:39 PM

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Crazy Wolf October 7th, 2007 11:42 PM

Ya just gotta <3 America!

Atrusino, please, pay attention to the news. After 24 hours, ask yourself, "How the hell could the USA have been founded on the Christian religion?"


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