So I just finished reading Lord of the Flies...
 

I was reading it for my Lit class, and I must say it's a very strange book, very graphic in some parts too.


WARNING: the following may spoil the book if you haven't read it.

Try reading the original Alice in Wonderland, Hansel and Gretel, or most of the other 'fairy tales,' they're actually pretty messed up.

^ yeah, I saw a doc a while back talking about how a lot of the fairy tales have been made "child" friendly cause they were too out there for their age group.

for example in the spoiler below V

Yeah, the stories are quite sexually perverse.

^ yeah....its quite twisted after finding the "true" meaning of them, I'll never be able to read them again(not saying I'm reading at my age)....but when that day in the far future comes when I have kids of own and I'd be reading them it and that thought of their original meaning just pop in there(like most things in my life just pop back in my head when I least want it(dang!! just remembered one ;)....here goes the process of buring it again) I'll be punching myself in the groin repeatedly till that dirty images are gone.

I think it's a disturbing book in general. I understand what it's trying to say but in the perspective of children it's horrific and borderline evil...

I read that last year, I liked simon too, I thought he'd become a pyshcotic monster who would attack the others, but he didn't, *sigh*
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell was a screwed up book too, if you read it

Yes, I didn't enjoy it at all. Alice and Wonderland I liked a lot, though.

It was indeed a grose book. And it may just be me, but I think that the kids in LOTF were a little bit to idiotic.

I mean, I realise that they're supposed to be young an naive. But I was a heck of a lot smarter than that when I was twelve. So the book just seems a tad bit unrealistic to me.

I remember reading that last year...I didn't really like it at all.

Speaking of Alice In Wonderland, my high school drama club is performing that in December. I'm on the tech crew for it...we have to make it look totally trippy. =p

:D I wanna read Lord of the Flies now.

No, Lord of the Flies is not sexually perverse in any way, he's talking about the fairy tales.

Lord if the flies has nothing to do with sexuality. It's basically a story about a group of boys stranded on an island who all go crazy and try to kill eachother.

I was talking to my teacher today and apparently the story is supposed to be unrealistic. I think what he mean't is that the book's supposed to be a metaphor for that if you take away all rules and laws, people will eventually turn "savage" (according to the book's terminology).

I'm not sure if this is quite true, william golding (the author) sure went to a great effort to proove this theory in the book.

i didnt find it all to unrealistic actually, being stuck on and island that long, with the same people, not knowing if help will ever come and if there is a point in trying to survive
if nature doesnt kill you, insanity will

is the original Alice in Wonderland sexually perverse? i always heard it was wierd but never knew why

No, I don't believe that it is, or I might have read a childerised version of it. It was certainly weird though, and not at all like the read childrens' version.

I see your point hairysheep, but in the beggining they could have been saved when the ship passed by. But they all let the fire signal go out because Jack was to focused on hunting pigs.

Then I think that that caused for all hope to be lost. And thus as you said hairysheep, insanity eventually overcame them.

But still, I think that if you put a group of real twelve year olds in the same situation, I think they'd be able to keep the fire going, and probably be saved when the first ship goes by.

I could be wrong though.