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B@SE May 17th, 2007 04:30 AM

Prince Harry not to go.
 
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Might be a good thread for the UK'ers here, dunno, but do you guys think Prince Harry should go to Iraqi? I see he's been pulled out and is very disappointed.
Some are saying that it means a princes life is worth more than the other men over there, don't know if I agree with that. But, do you reckon he should be able to go...with all the personal death threats going on etc.

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Admiral Donutz May 17th, 2007 04:34 AM

If he wants to go why stop him? For the safety of his comrades I would probably not tell anybody though that he went there. That way if "nobody' knows he is even there or where he is or with who... he can do his duty.

Or they could sent him in lone-wolf special raid style so they wouldn't have to worry about insurgants blowing his entire platoon to pieces. =p

Sovereign002 May 17th, 2007 05:37 AM

I think he's someone the brittish should be proud of. Not like those wusses most countries have these days.
If he wants to fight then let him damned, the only danger is that terrorists will be way too happy to blow him up. :/

Bs|Archaon May 17th, 2007 05:52 AM

Him being there will bring complications, because he will be a high value target. When it comes down to it, though, I think he should be allowed to go. Not letting him go screams of discrimination, and there's too much of that here as it is.

(For anyone that doesn't know, we're not talking about forcing him to go to Iraq; he wants to go. We're talking about whether he should be allowed to go by the military).

Mad Cat May 17th, 2007 06:34 AM

It would be discrimination if for the other troops if he were not to go.
It wouldn't be fair if he just wouldn'y go because he's royal...

the1chaos May 17th, 2007 08:16 AM

The simple fact is, that as British royalty, he's a high priority target. That doesn't just mean he is in extra danger, but it also means everyone in his platoon is in danger. Should the preference of one person go over such a high risk for these soldiers?

-Section- May 17th, 2007 08:22 AM

So don't let anyone know where he his, Governments keep secrets all the time. I think he should be allowed to go if he chooses.

Bs|Archaon May 17th, 2007 08:24 AM

For accuracy's sake, he's a tank recon troop commander. 4 or 5 vehicles and around 15 men; not a platoon (30-50 men).

Flash525 May 17th, 2007 08:34 AM

Personally, I couldn't give a toss if he went or not. I know he is 'royalty' but not allowing him to go is like saying 'everyone else is out there dying for you and your country'.

They didn't stop Kings marching out to do battle in the older days. Though I can't see Prince Charles going out all armoured up sitting on the top of a Tank. But yeah, I don't really care whether he goes or not.

All I will say is this: What is the point of being in the Military if you aren't allowed to go into dangerous zones?

*SW3D3* May 17th, 2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by the1chaos (Post 3684494)
The simple fact is, that as British royalty, he's a high priority target. That doesn't just mean he is in extra danger, but it also means everyone in his platoon is in danger. Should the preference of one person go over such a high risk for these soldiers?

Did anyone even read what was said here. Basically chaos is terminating the discussion right here.
He is a high value target, there for his platoon face extra danger if he were to go with them...
Chaos is 100% correct above...

Bs|Archaon May 17th, 2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by *SW3D3* (Post 3684533)
Chaos is 100% correct above...

Considering that he ended his post with a question mark...what?

Free May 17th, 2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bs|Archaon (Post 3684579)
Considering that he ended his post with a question mark...what?

Rethorical question. I suppose.

Bs|Archaon May 17th, 2007 10:03 AM

Perhaps, but lives have been wasted for far pettier things. Even in modern times, Royals have gone to war before with no problems.

Relander May 17th, 2007 10:57 AM

If it's kept secret in what unit he serves in then I don't see a problem him being there: how many terrorists would actually recognize him under the camouflage mask, especially if he's inside the tank most of the time? I find it respectable that Prince Harry wants to serve his country, bringing the royals closer to ordinary people.

IG-756 May 17th, 2007 11:10 AM

what i think is that if he wants to go let him just do not tell anyone so no one knows he is there

Jill May 17th, 2007 12:30 PM

I think more people would respect him if he went.

B@SE May 17th, 2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bs|Archaon (Post 3684332)
Him being there will bring complications, because he will be a high value target. When it comes down to it, though, I think he should be allowed to go. Not letting him go screams of discrimination, and there's too much of that here as it is.

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Yeah I reckon so too. Just not worth it, guess theres down side to being sickly rich and famous. :uhm: :naughty:

Lukeh May 17th, 2007 03:51 PM

Eh. He'd just be a gigantic target and endanger the lives of those around him. I respect the man just for wanting to go to Iraq so bad.

The Joelteon7 May 17th, 2007 04:08 PM

This is the first time I have reason to actually have faith in Prince Harry, considering the other things he has done, however it's an interesting decision. On the one hand, by him not being allowed to go, should it not create some sort of precedent to which other soliders should not go/still be there, but on the other and like he said, he joined the army to fight. That is his occupation now, not just being a Prince, so he should do it.

Personally, I don't think he or anyone else should go for this 'war', but that would be a different topic. Nah, I support him on this one.

Crazy Wolf May 17th, 2007 04:16 PM

I think that if that is where the British Army deems his skills are most needed, then so be it. If the British Army has a good reason to deploy him elsewhere, let them. He's a soldier, his superiors make the choices now.

Anlushac11 May 17th, 2007 05:50 PM

I feel that by having him there he is putting his fellow soldiers at risk by placing a high value target in country.

I admire his wanting to go and can understand how this makes him feel, being held back because hes special.

LaughingCheese May 17th, 2007 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill (Post 3684828)
I think more people would respect him if he went.

:cya:

According to this article he's not going not because he didn't want to, but because Gen. Sir Richard Dannatt didn't want to give the ists an opportunity to attack a member of the royal family(and rightly so).

Bs|Archaon May 17th, 2007 06:19 PM

Originally he was in favour of letting the Prince go. I'm hardly one for conspiracy theories, but I suspect some leverage was involved in changing the decision; given that he made two contradictory statements within a month.

LaughingCheese May 17th, 2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bs|Archaon (Post 3685617)
Originally he was in favour of letting the Prince go. I'm hardly one for conspiracy theories, but I suspect some leverage was involved in changing the decision; given that he made two contradictory statements within a month.

Wow lol, didn't know about that...:eek:

Red Menace May 17th, 2007 06:37 PM

If the Royal Army thinks that his presence is detrimental to the well being of others then he shouldn’t go, regardless of how it looks, this isn’t politics, it’s war.


I still respect him for his willingness to go however.

achillius May 17th, 2007 11:59 PM

Intresting B@se.

Nope I reckon he should not be allowed to go, though if he did I dont think anything would happen to him, he would be too well protected.

Mihail May 18th, 2007 02:26 PM

He should have the same percentage chance of being in the front as much as any man.

Crazy Wolf May 18th, 2007 04:25 PM

As any man with his skill set, yes. But I'm trusting the British Army to make a correct move.

ScOrPY May 18th, 2007 04:40 PM

I'd let him go and it should be his choice, but if HQ says they don't want him to go they have their reasons.

arcadeplayer987 May 19th, 2007 08:25 AM

Everyone decide for his life.Is his choice.

PC_Master May 19th, 2007 08:45 AM

I really don't care if he goes to war and dies or not.

Cap'n Rommel May 19th, 2007 09:12 AM

If he wants to go: Let him, but I would find it rather sad if he died

Free May 19th, 2007 01:27 PM

Let' s put this on economy. There are four possibilities:
A- He goes to war. Everything goes ok. England will spend a lot of money for his protection.
B- He goes to war. He gets captured. England will spend a lot of money to release him.
C- He goes to war. He dies. England will spend a lot of money for his funerals.
D- He stays at home. He will spend a lot of money on his own. Hey, buy me a Jaguar, will you?

Roaming East May 19th, 2007 03:55 PM

pssht, looking at the UK's casualty rates in Iraq, he's probably safer there than anywhere else especially when compared to homeland accidents and training incident reports.

Long ago it was an obligation for a nations leaders to have either served or taken an active role in said service. guess todays pampered politicos can be spared.

Crazy Wolf May 20th, 2007 02:31 AM

Not necessarily an obligation, but it certainly helped your standing and popularity.
I figure the Army gets to decide, they'll answer to the British public for any flak from their decision.

Cap'n Rommel May 20th, 2007 03:27 AM

As far as I know, they will keep him alive if they capture him... and send him home... without ears..

B@SE May 23rd, 2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by arcadeplayer987 (Post 3695463)
Nice options:)

Why newbie? :uhm:

arcadeplayer987 May 23rd, 2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Free (Post 3688787)
Let' s put this on economy. There are four possibilities:
A- He goes to war. Everything goes ok. England will spend a lot of money for his protection.
B- He goes to war. He gets captured. England will spend a lot of money to release him.
C- He goes to war. He dies. England will spend a lot of money for his funerals.
D- He stays at home. He will spend a lot of money on his own. Hey, buy me a Jaguar, will you?

Nice options:)


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