High school boy fatally stabbed at campus bus stop
 

yay another idiot kid:rolleyes:

Stupid kids killing eachother over a girl?
What happened to the good ole days where you would just fist fight like REAL MEN?
Kids today are such pussies.

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I've been told the exact same thing from many people. These days, 'fighting back' isn't an option if someone approaches you on the street because they could simply pull out a knife. That does not make them 'tough' but furthermore a coward. Only there fists can proove if there a real man.

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People are scary. :(

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thats why i smack em right in the face.
knives suck, so do bras knuckles and other weapons for harm

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amen, people these days have lost the courage to sort things out the real way, killing each other does nothing except make the situation far worse than it should be.

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I still have fist fights only. To defend girls, of course. I am one of the last members of the cavalry.

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If both guys had knifes than that would take some real courage. No one wants to be stabbed. We should just give everyone knives and then LESS people would fight.

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But those who do fight, end up dead.
I understand the idea, sure, but... In theory it would work, I doubt it'd work in life.

Yeah, the world has gone crazy.
Stabbings and other unnecessary violence often occur in Holland. It's sick.

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Even fist fights are for loosers. You only fight when you have no choice.

I don't understand why they charge these kids as adults. They are still kids, they should get the benefit of their age in court. Everybody knows they are just dumb kids. Nobody should be thrown in with harden criminals at that age.

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The more idiots we rid from our schools, the better.

I am glad this is kid is getting tried as an adult. He did an adult thing and should be punished like an adult for it. Does Flordia have the death penalty? If not, I hope this kid meets up with Bubba;)

Physical fight can be very baised towrds one side. Do it like gentlemen, 2 pistols at 30 paces;)

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Personally I wouldn't call fists a civilized weapon.

I'd appreciate a duel for the honor. ;)

Choose your weapon, sword or pistol?

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oh yeah florida has the death penalty(it loves excersing this kind of justice) big time and as long as there 18 they can receive death, like the double homicide in cape coral florida that just happened 2 weeks ago, all of the suspects were 16-20 yrs old, they tortured and killed a 19 yr old and a 14 yr old cuz they talked smack about the one suspects girlfriend at a party, they beat, cut, put bleach in their wounds then shot em like 7 times and burned thim in a car, 9 were involved, all arrested except the ringleader, the girls were only 16 and 17 adn the guys were mostly the same age, they most likey going to get death and life and the girls 15 to 25 yrs

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Death penalty won't teach 'em a lesson for the next time - living hell will.

I say, whip 'em daily!

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must i say more?

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I looked over that complety. He can't get deported. His parents may be legal or illegal. I bet her was born in the US, which makes him a legal citizen. There are good immigrants, and there are bad immigrants. The bad ones show up alot more than the good ones in the news.

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im not saying all are bad immigrants, but mexicans and other hispanics are usually poor, and kids in a poor family usually cause an amazing amout of problems such as gangs. number of mexicans gangmembers are skyrocketing.

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That's just wrong. Fighting over a girl is silly enough (she decides who she dates, you can't beat somebody up and then tell the girl "Well I just won a fight, you're mine now not his"... ). But stabbing? :cort:

I wouldn't say stabbings accure often here. :uhm: They do happen but it's not like dozens of them happen on a daily basis or something. Oh and teach them foreigners that it's The (Kingdom of) the Netherlands, holland only refers to the province of North and South Holland technically... :p

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No they are not, only losers wimp out of a fist fight. I like to call them pansies.
If someone punches you you punch them back.
Walking away at age 17 you are nothing but a coward ;)

You might not undrstand... have you ever had a girlfriend or been in that situation?
If not than you could not understand.
No offence but that is how it is dude.

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It might sounds harsh, but if you have definitive proof that those suspects committed the crime, do that crime to them. Rapist? Handcuff his wrists to his ankles and toss him in a cell. Murderer? Murder him.
It's harsh, but it works. If the politicians find it too harsh, bringing back canings and public humiliation would be a step in the right direction.

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I don't like the idea "an eye for an eye" even though it would work for some types of people. But if those same people get back on the street or you later find out you punished an innocent person you are onyl asking for more trouble. I would just prefer to throw them sick bastards and idiots in a small isolation cell and let them rot. Make sure they can survive but that the rest of their days are a living hell (no that doesn't include torture, though being jailed in a very tiny cell and no comforts for life may be some kind of "torture" though. I would call that punishment).

No girl, no fight either. But I'm not going to let an other guy decide wether or not a girl is his or not. That's not up to me either.

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Its not really about who gets the girl at all. Its about pride and standing up for yourself and being a man. its hard to explain if you have not been in that situation.
You know what is funny? That "girl" usually doesn't end up with EITHER of the two after the fight ;)

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Only a loser would have to resort to violence to achive their goals. If you are a physically strong guy than of course you will depend of beating people up or threatining them with harm to win. But if you can simpley talk through your problems than it is better for all.

I'd love to see a politican with your attitude. Oh wait, we already have one, Bush.:lol:

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Only a loser would back down from a fight, aka sissyboy.
So if I run up to you and punch you in the mouth you are going to "talk" to me? LOL.
I take it you have never been in a fight and are weak?
Women don't like passive men ;)

BTW, I'm talking about defending yourself in a fight here, NOT starting one. So just we are on the same page.
Kids fight. Fight over girls, property, you name it. Sometimes you just have to throw down, walking away is not an option.
of course you could be one of those sissy boys I knew in school that would run and tella teacher.. waaaaaaaaaaa

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this girl must be pretty damn good looking if people are killing others over her

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Not necessarily...I've seen guys fight over some pretty "Fugly" women before.:lol:

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Your words make me long for a society without stereotypes and racism.

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oh stop BSing. you know its true. if you see a gardener or guy working at Mcdonolds, its usually a mexican. you people need to stop being so touchy, you know its true. Stop being so politically correct and say what you think.

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They are 15/16 whatever thats pretty close to a legal adult. You could use that excuse for if they got high maybe or if they stole but for killing someone, I say punish them fully and give no quarter.

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You are aware that Cubans and Puerto Ricans likely outnumber Mexicans in Florida? Judging by the names of the kids both Kelvin and Michael I would venture to say these kids were likely born in country.

http://harvardmagazine.com/on-line/090605.html



lets take a look at this. OMG oMG pwned in the face.

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i read the whole article. pretty interesting but, look at what i highlighted in the quote. i am a first-generation immigrant. but because mexican people tend to be poorer, they cause more crime.

its like saying a mexican that just came here makes $20,000, according to the study he is less likely to cause crime than a third-generation immigrant that makes $20,000.
the point im making is that the majority of mexicans who came here recently are poorer, the kids tend to cause more crime and be in gangs. while a much smaller percentage of third-generation immigrants are in this economic sector.

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If you read the whole article than you wouldn't have missed this.
...first-generation Latino immigrants offer a particularly vivid counterexample to this common assumption. “They come into the country with low resources and high poverty, so you would expect a high propensity to violence,” Sampson says. But Latinos were less prone to such actions than either blacks or whites—providing the latest evidence that Latinos do better on a range of social indicators, a phenomenon sociologists call the “Latino paradox.”

Mexican Americans were the least violent among those studied, in large part because they were the most likely to be first-generation immigrants, Sampson adds. The study also revealed that neighborhoods matter. “Kids living in neighborhoods with a high concentration of first-generation immigrants have lower rates of violence,” he explains, “even if they aren’t immigrants themselves

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the first sentence i quoted dousnt fully agree with the second half of the article which you quoted.
i think the person should rewrite the article to be a little more clear.

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Or maybe you should re read the article? His arguement is that First generation immigrants in particular Hispanics have lower crime rates in nieghborhoods comprable in socioeconmic status.

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What if the guy who’s starting the fight is smaller, weaker, and younger than the guy he's picking a fight with. Would you still say the bigger guy should laydown and beat the shit out of the younger guy?

In that situation most people would say just leave the smaller guy alone. By your argument you would call the bigger guy a sissy/pansy if he did.

The reality of the situation is that fighting isn't what you do to resolve your problems. For someone who's almost 40 I would think you would've realized that by now. If fighting was something mature people did to resolve their differences, you would see people throwing down on their bosses and fist fights in congress.

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Me and all the hispanics I know are far from "poor".
Maybe some of lies you have been told by the government and media has turned you into sheeple. My parents are both legally U.S. citizens. The only time you hear about Hispanics on the news is when there's been a murder/rape/theft. The situation today is akin to a lighter version of the hatred toward Blacks in the 1950s. Much of the media is racially biased and only wants you too see whatever they want you to.

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If the smaller guy punches me than yes I will break his nose.
If he just throws some words at me I will most likely laugh and walk away but sorry, I refuse to back down from anyone who touches me unless they are female, and even then if the bitch kicks me in the nuts I will throw her to the ground also.
People should have common sense not to touch a stranger so whatever happens they deserve.

Note the word defence I used not offence ;)
I really didn't start many fights in school but had my share of defending myself from the ones who did.
You gain respect fighting back not running away.
now of course at my age I wouldn't go punching my Boss or a coworker, lets get real for a second;)
But again, if a coworker punched me I really can't tell you what would happen. Most likely lay them out and deal with it later?
or if it was a guy that I knew I could take down with ease I'd just have them fired then find them at their fav bar and have a nice little chat with him :)


You've never seen video footage of Congress people throwing down? Happens in all Countries :)

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I'll tell you something about girls and earning respect. Girls like leaders. They're attracted to men who can solve problems and bring people together. If you can turn your enemies into your friends without throwing a punch then you will be able to gain respect wherever you go.

Respect isn't won, its earned.

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So after reading what I just wrote you are saying girls like wimps?
Most girls do not like wimps, well maybe the geeky ugly ones but who wants those ;)
We are talking high school here so if you are trying to tell me a guy who walks away from someone who just punched him will be respected I must laugh.
He will be laughed at by both the girls and the guys:lol:

Respect is earned alright but not given away.

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That's amazing that you gathered only "girls like wimps" from what I posted. That's just amazing.

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What's more amazing is your reply to my reply the reply before this one:eek:

but, like that chick on MAD TV says... "ok"

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there you go.
the majority of hispanic immigrants are illegal. 67% have not finished college. what kind of economic position is that gonna put them in?
your parents came here legally, just like mine, having to wait years to just get to america then another couple years to get a citizenship. dousnt make you a little angry when somone comes here in a couple days (maybe 1) and is in the country, or a woman crosses and gives birth on american soil and that kid automatically is a citizen.

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proof From a no-biased credible source? not just pulling shit out of your ass. I would be like me claiming that a 40% of all Eastern European immigrants are part of the Russian mob or come here as sex workers.

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you cant say that. maybe its true. but all czechs i have met here have normal jobs. :)

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Yes , that does make me angry. I realize that I got a little off-topic.