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Old November 29th, 2005   #81
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Dinosaures, they lived long before us, though did never invent planes, boats, submarines or space shuttles. We are a unique species, and one that will exist for quite some time.
They didnt invent nukes either. The only reason they died out is cos of a mumma comet.

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If it turned around, it wouldn't matter if we were on another planet, we'd still be doomed. There is no way of stopping the collapse of space.
Yup, if were still alive and that happens were f**ked, doubt we will be though.

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This I don't believe, Humanity will rise at some point, or destroy themselves whilst trying to do so. You make it seem as though nature will take care of us like it has done previously. The only way it can do that is to blow up the globe before we reach the stars.
If we don't kill ourselves, which is quite likely, then nature will do it for us.

The fact of the matter is, spreading to more than one planet doesn't eliminate the risk of extinction, it just reduces it. If, for example, it is discovered that there is a habitable planet within a few lightyears of us and we establish a colony there, a nearby supernova is still going to obliterate both systems. And if you cast your mind back to the neutron star explosion which spread radiation across a 50,000 lightyear radius, you'll realise that cosmic devastation isn't limited to a localised scale. That particular explosion needed to have only been 10 lightyears closer to irreparably damage our atmosphere and trigger a mass extinction, by the way.

The fact of the matter is, the universe, however large or old it is, is an exceptionally dangerous place. The fact that we are still alive to talk about it, despite the number of near misses we've had over the last few million years, is almost enough reason to believe in god, because it sure is a miracle. Humanity would have to have technology more powerful than the universe itself to survive if nature decided to destroy us. The extinction of humanity is inevitable.


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Humanity would have to have technology more powerful than the universe itself to survive if nature decided to destroy us.
Give humanity time, they may very well create technology like this. You say no, and that we wont, but some scientists *think* they have created a universe themselves, though it was unstable - this I remember reading somewhere on some website, though whether it is true is a different matter, thus the *think* they did.

Give humanity time, we can do almost anything. Think of what we can achieve now, and what was thought impossible. It's just down to whether we will get wiped out before we get the chance.

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If we don't kill ourselves, which is quite likely, then nature will do it for us.
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The extinction of humanity is inevitable.
This is true, when / if the universe collapses that will be the end of us all.


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Why slow down? What would be the cause in this (if anything) do you know?
Well.. Nothing is forever, or what? I believe that it turns around in the end.


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Give humanity time, they may very well create technology like this. You say no, and that we wont, but some scientists *think* they have created a universe themselves, though it was unstable - this I remember reading somewhere on some website, though whether it is true is a different matter, thus the *think* they did.
The only artificial universe I am aware of is a computer model used for mapping purposes. Which is hardly likely to save anyone from a rogue black hole ripping all of the surrounding solar systems to pieces, or a supernova blasting planets apart.

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Give humanity time, we can do almost anything. Think of what we can achieve now, and what was thought impossible. It's just down to whether we will get wiped out before we get the chance.
It actually is impossible to make something with more energy than the universe itself, because that would require you to draw all of the energy from the universe for your own use. Which would, incidentally, destroy everything, alive or dead.

Simply put, humans will never be able to withstand even half of the things that the universe can throw at them. Your idealism won't change that -- humans might be the most impressive animals around at the moment, but we aren't gods.


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Well.. Nothing is forever, or what? I believe that it turns around in the end.
There are a multitude of theories regarding the end of (or lack thereof) of the universe. The Big Crunch, the Big Rip, Heat Death, the Big Freeze, etc, etc.


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I read this in some magazine once. But there's some crazy ass theory that says something along the lines of this.....


Our universe is not infinite. The end can only be found, if you know how to find it. When you leave our universe, you are non existent. There is no such thing as time, physics, anything, wherever the hell you are, there are infinite numbers of different universes, so radically different than ours, to the degree that even matter as we know it doesn't exist. Stuff that is not capable of a human to imagine. NEW colors, new dimensions. All that fun stuff. And the answer to all this can be discovered in one massive, but simple, universal formula. Something simple as e=mc2, but can explain everything/


I think that theory is screwed up beyond belief, but just thinking about it is sooooo cool. '





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Our universe is not infinite. The end can only be found, if you know how to find it. When you leave our universe, you are non existent. There is no such thing as time, physics, anything, wherever the hell you are, there are infinite numbers of different universes, so radically different than ours, to the degree that even matter as we know it doesn't exist. Stuff that is not capable of a human to imagine. NEW colors, new dimensions. All that fun stuff. And the answer to all this can be discovered in one massive, but simple, universal formula. Something simple as e=mc2, but can explain everything
A very nice way of looking at it, and I can believe that too, though, if everything is different, and this can't support humans, then when we get there, we would seice to exist, would we not!?


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And by the way.. who said that aliens can't live without water\air and such? Well.. We can't be so sure of that, because there's a little chance of meeting aliens that is very similar to humans.. they might breathe crypton and shit gold..


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I don't know if anyone's said this already because I don't have time to read the entire thread.

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You'd be ripped apart, the gravitional differnce from your head to your toe is so great that your body would be pulled apart towards the black hole where it would be crushed to an infinetly small dot.
This isn't neccesaraily true. It depends on the size of the black hole if you'll get "spaghettified" or not. Larger Black holes have a larger circle of gravity around them so the gravity would get better distributed upon you.
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This is an illistration of a Dice hurling toward the event horizon of a black hole and the effects..
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the dice is destroyed and fragmented from a 1st person perspective

but from a distance observer the dice appears to hover forever above the event horizon.

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