If the universe is endless, everything is the center.
That is a way of looking at it, however not the best one. If something is endless, nothing is in the centre, everything is everywhere.
Regardless of that, there has to be a 'centre' of the universe at some point. Whether we will ever be able to calculate this is another matter, however, it is there.
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Originally Posted by Chemix2
Essentialy, if there were nothing outside of the universe, it would just be apart of the universe as open space. Beyonde this dimension there is another dimension, another possibility. We are one possibility, in an array of infinite others. We see a fraction of the world, one possibility, where the dice roll an 11 here they roll a 7 in another possibility. So beyond this fraction is the next. This makes up the multiverse, the sum of possibility. It is possible that our multiverse is but a fraction of a larger mass, and thus is a possibility. In theory this could result in multiversal bonding chains and supermolecules, and since that is a possibility then that possibility is may or may not me true in this universe, but in this or another multiverse it may be true. But then again if this is possible then really, all things are possible in one way or another and this chains and groupings go on infinitely building structures, the basis of the atom even and thus the beginning and end are the same, Alpha and Omega. The endless angles and projections of the infinite shape, the sphere, from which all things are built and all things end. Possibility Infinite- Jacques Heyer
Talk about confusion. This is (although informative) extremely baffling. Do you understand it yourself? If so, could you please put it in more... 'basic' terms?
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Originally Posted by Dragokatzov
there is an end to space, and its always expanding, well, according, to the inflation theory
There is an end regardless of it expanding or not. If it isn't then it has an end, what is after that is simply unknown. Now, if it is expanding, there would be an end, though it would just never be in the same place.
As the universe grows, the 'end' would therefore be growing with it, thus be moving along with the growth, would it not?
Essentialy, the basis of existance is possibility, which forms from existence. Okay, thats the short extremely complicated version.
The long way round.
This universe is a fraction of a whole, one possible way things go, however another universe represents another part of the fraction, and a different possible way things go. Ultimately the sum of all the possibilities is the multiverse, which contains all the different possible existences. Atleast in one possible existence there is a multiverse connected to this one, this is the basis of multiversial bonding. From massive chains and other groupings form particles, some of which group into a larger mass while others orbit. This should start seeming familar to something you learned along time ago from this point on. No time to explain the rest
That reminds me of that Star trek TNG episode where there were multiple enterprises from the other parralel universes in the same place and that crap. is that what it is supposed to be? where if one person can have the choice and a million possible outcomes?
or am i confused?
"I'm the 82nd Airborne. And this is as far as the bastards are going!"
This universe is a fraction of a whole, one possible way things go, however another universe represents another part of the fraction, and a different possible way things go. Ultimately the sum of all the possibilities is the multiverse, which contains all the different possible existences. Atleast in one possible existence there is a multiverse connected to this one, this is the basis of multiversial bonding. From massive chains and other groupings form particles, some of which group into a larger mass while others orbit. This should start seeming familar to something you learned along time ago from this point on. No time to explain the rest
Right, I'm still confused - Maybe it's because I haven't woken up yet...
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Originally Posted by -DarthMaul-
That reminds me of that Star trek TNG episode where there were multiple enterprises from the other parralel universes in the same place and that crap. is that what it is supposed to be? where if one person can have the choice and a million possible outcomes?
Are you on about the one with the three Enterprises (Past, Present & Future) - one having the htree necelles? - If so, as Chemix2 is correct as the episode was based on Q messing around with time & Picard.
This planet is finite. We have explored its surface, and it is only a matter of time before we have explored its oceans and its very core. We ourselves are finite; our lifespans are quite limited, and eventually, we all know that our species will become extinct. Everything we can build has a limited lifespan, meaning that any memories of humanity will also fade away and become none-existent. And then another finite species will come to dominate. Eventually, our star will expire and the cycle of life on Earth will end. Earth may well break apart, and go on to become another planet in billions of years time.
Everything in our lives is finite in terms of time and space. Which is why most people cannot even conceive of the idea of something being infinite (for instance, those blokes who are still trying to work out 'pi' as though there will ever be an end). But just because we cannot comprehend something being infinite, it doesn't mean that something infinite cannot exist. That would be beyond egotistical.
What scientists have shown is that the various galaxies of the universe are getting further apart, probably due to them all being formed in a single explosion of sorts. But, no such explosion could ever have taken place if there was 'nothing' before. By its very nature, an explosion of any kind needs 'something'. I suggest that the universe as we know it is simply one of many, occupying an infinite dimension of space which has no end of any kind. I would also suggest that this 'Farzleverse' (which is what I am going to name it from now on) was never 'created', and will never be 'destroyed', it simply 'is'.
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The universe isn't infinite, it's expanding too fast for us to reach.. The expanding will eventually slow down, but they say it won't stop. I might have understood the text I was reading at school today, but there is something called "dark energy" or something, it like the opposite of a black hole. It creates a negative vacuum, and that makes the universe expand.
If the expanding ever stops, it would most likely turn around and there's where the "Big Crunch" theory comes running in the door. It's an backwards version of Big Bang.
But after all.. I think that we are dead before that happens, or moved to another planet\moon\sun (whatever)
This planet is finite. We have explored its surface, and it is only a matter of time before we have explored its oceans and its very core. We ourselves are finite; our lifespans are quite limited, and eventually, we all know that our species will become extinct. Everything we can build has a limited lifespan, meaning that any memories of humanity will also fade away and become none-existent. And then another finite species will come to dominate. Eventually, our star will expire and the cycle of life on Earth will end. Earth may well break apart, and go on to become another planet in billions of years time.
This I don't believe, Humanity will rise at some point, or destroy themselves whilst trying to do so. You make it seem as though nature will take care of us like it has done previously. The only way it can do that is to blow up the globe before we reach the stars.
Dinosaures, they lived long before us, though did never invent planes, boats, submarines or space shuttles. We are a unique species, and one that will exist for quite some time.
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Everything in our lives is finite in terms of time and space. Which is why most people cannot even conceive of the idea of something being infinite (for instance, those blokes who are still trying to work out 'pi' as though there will ever be an end). But just because we cannot comprehend something being infinite, it doesn't mean that something infinite cannot exist. That would be beyond egotistical.
What scientists have shown is that the various galaxies of the universe are getting further apart, probably due to them all being formed in a single explosion of sorts. But, no such explosion could ever have taken place if there was 'nothing' before. By its very nature, an explosion of any kind needs 'something'. I suggest that the universe as we know it is simply one of many, occupying an infinite dimension of space which has no end of any kind. I would also suggest that this 'Farzleverse' (which is what I am going to name it from now on) was never 'created', and will never be 'destroyed', it simply 'is'.
You have a very nice way of looking at this topic, though, not completely agreed upon, respected
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Originally Posted by eVoLut!oN
The universe isn't infinite, it's expanding too fast for us to reach.. The expanding will eventually slow down, but they say it won't stop. I might have understood the text I was reading at school today, but there is something called "dark energy" or something, it like the opposite of a black hole. It creates a negative vacuum, and that makes the universe expand.
Why slow down? What would be the cause in this (if anything) do you know?
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Originally Posted by eVoLut!oN
If the expanding ever stops, it would most likely turn around and there's where the "Big Crunch" theory comes running in the door. It's an backwards version of Big Bang.
But after all.. I think that we are dead before that happens, or moved to another planet\moon\sun (whatever)
If it turned around, it wouldn't matter if we were on another planet, we'd still be doomed. There is no way of stopping the collapse of space.
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