Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

Could the Dak and the glider be spawned as one entity with the glider detachable? Could the pilot fly both, when he switches to position 2 (glider pilot) the glider detaches from the Dak (which despawns) as it is no longer required. Any player could mount either the glider or the dak but be located in the glider for when it detaches.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

yes i know this is an old topic (since the last post was 2 weeks ago)......but as far as the towing, piloting, spawning.....etc.....
Apparently you can spawn in the c-47 correct? or does it require you walk to it?
as far as the glider....being released at the edge of the map (which seems like a good idea) presents many other problems.
First of all the glider is not powered so eventually it will land (or crash) on the ground....so that means a spawn point will have to be created on the glider and someone is going to have to immediately take controls before it starts to nose dive. I know moveable spawn points are easily made, but having something floating in air at the start of a round at the edge of the map can prove to be quite a mess without the proper people in the pilot seat (and especially if they are disoriented, they might end up in the deserter-zone for a while).
While the glider is very neat I'm real doubtful as to how it could be very effective....i like engines on my planes...gliding around is relaxing, if you're not in a battle.

Either way I think having it spawn on a tow-cable from the back of the c-47 (while it is on the ground of course) is the best way to go. So if no one is using it, it is ready to go....that way you dont have to scramble and depend on random noobs to keep the damn thing in the air or when nobody is using it for it to continuously crash on its own.

Having a release ability should be easy as bombs are done that way....making the cable bend according to which direction the c47 is going and the glider following would be the hardest part....would look rather retarded having the glider on the end of a big stiff stick protruding from the c47 and the c47 unrealistically swinging it all over the place when it turns.

As far as maneuverability....dont count on it being good with that either...this should only go on the biggest of maps....As I remember from Saving Private Ryan, that crashed glider pilot said he nearly broke both his arms trying to keep it in the air...Too much weight since the general that was on board wanted to have a personal armored plate mounted beneath him... While piloting a glider might not be that realistically bad, I can still understand.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

Yea, someone else said it earlier but...more importantly, how hard of a shot can this bastard take on landing. Since most gliders in the actual landings came down like meteors (saving private ryan for instance). A lot of people who cant fly are gonna send us like hail into the ground and all die. And where is a field going to be where you can land it? I think these would work great on Bocage, since the 2nd wave of the Gliders landed around first light. There is plenty of farm-land to plant the glider on the ground. But If you have one little area to land, tanks and MGs will camp that field. Also, how long would it take to get it to stop sliding to a speed where guys can hop out and not get wounded/killed? I like the glider, I'm just curious how the landing aspect will take place.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

Just make sure I am the pilot and you will get on the ground safely. I can promise you that.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

Or me ;-)

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

OMG, when will people stop citing SPR as the athoritative source of WW2 information? Gliders tend to light, many contructed out of wood and cloth. Also, they tend to have a large wingspan to increase lift. The one glider you mention (shudder) supposedly had a large metal plate added to the floor, which increased it's weight considerably, it was not a regular glider. I'm trying to be nice so I'll just say this: Please do a little research and then make your posts.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

The story of the Officer killed in SPR is based on a true story but it was the exception.

Everything loaded onto a glider is weighed beforehand and troops were required to leave behind any non esential items.

Gliders have to be loaded to a specfic weight and that weight is not to be exceeded. And the load has to be balanced so the glider will glide down nose first without too steep an angle.

Someone got the idea to install armor plate under the feet of the Airborne officer to protect him from ground fire. And then didnt tell anyone.

Result was a grossly overweight glider that once released fell to earth like a rock and crash landed. I dont remember if the real life officer actually died or if he broke both ankles. I want to say he died from a broken neck.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

Ha, shut up man. I've read and checked out many books son. And oh yes, many crashed pretty good. For instance, when I read band of brothers, they said their general went on a prep-run in one just to see how glider inf. was and ended up getting some broken ribs. I don't get info from SPR, but it was an example people can relate too since most have viewed the movie have they not(thats why I said "for instance")? Sure it may have been overloaded or whatever, but still a lot of gliders came down like my r/c airplane last week. So, yes, landing in a glider isn't like setting down in a 747, it's a little more eventful.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

"Son", that's cute. What I took exception to was the statement "came down like meteors". Yes, it was basicly a controlled crash landing, but they didn't plummet from the sky, as that suggests. I'm sure the landing was bumpy, I don't believe the wheels had any kind of shock absorbers, but the pilots were well trained and they were landing in large open areas for the most part. It wouldn't make much sense to send in large groups of soldiers that way if they knew most of them would be injured/disabled before they even encountered the enemy.

As for the SPR nonsense, every time some quotes it as absolute fact, it just increases the uneducated's faith in it as a completely accurate source, spreading further foolishness.

Re: American Waco CG-4A Hadrian Glider
 

I know, I was just trying to make an example of what is going to happen when someone who can't fly gets behind the yoke.