Re: German Panther G
 

And what is going to stop numerous infantry from ending your life with a few PanzerNooB100 or expacks, since it lacks a mg and is so slow infantry can easiily run around it ?

In real life no tank or AT field cannon could take it out, it was one of the best armoured vehicles in the war with 200 mm front armour and 130 mm plates covered the rest of the structure. It was invulnerable to all but aircraft and.......common infantry ! The germans tried to solve that by adding a platform on the back of the structure that could carry a few Panzergrenadiers to prevent it being attacked by infantry, but that only resulted in high losses amongst the Panzergrenadiers.

THe desperate crews of these monsters have been known to attach mg34 under main gun barrel and pull the trigger with a rope, or even fire the MG34 through the main gun barrel itself !

Bisons, Panzerjager, Wespe, Hummel and some versions of Marders had that no mg problem too, but all carried a MG34 that could be mounted on the gunshields to defend themselves in case of infantry attack on their vehicle.

I hope that will be represented in FH too.

Re: German Panther G
 

LOL. I'd love to EXpack that thing.

Re: German Panther G
 

It´s splendid. :thumbsup:

With good textures this could get a favoured vehicle among players.

Re: German Panther G
 

@ anlushac11

The picture here that you posted
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/panste.jpg

This picture is also a Panther G model with steel-rimmed wheels and it is not the D variant that you said.

Re: German Panther G
 

And the first pic of the G model at Aberdeen is a G with the rubber rimmed road wheels.

I mainly used that pic to show the differences in the turrets gun manlet but you are correct they are both G's.

And after researching further early G's did not have hte chin armor, later models did.

So, my bad.

Re: German Panther G
 

@ Master Minder

There weren't 2 versions of the panther Ausf. G
The Panthers were changed steady during the production ran to bring the latest technology to the front.
A lot of changes are taken from the develpoment of the
Panther II by the way.

In middle of 1944 a new chin was added, because of the reasons Anlushac11 wrote about.
So all Panther G produced since the middle of 1944 had the new chin.

In general there are only a few visible things to differ the different versions:

Ausf D

had originally a vision port at the fornt and another port for the MG, later D models had a machine gun with a ball mounting
early models had two floodlights, later only one

Ausf A

vision port at the front; machine gun with a ball mounting
one floodlight

Ausf G

vision port replaced by a periscope; machine gun with a ball mounting; one floodlight
later models had a new chin
(some very few models had steel wheels like the one of the Königstiger)

So I suggest if there is an extra model for the Panther G, it would be reasonable the add the new chin.

Here are some good pictures of the different Panthers:

http://panzerlexikon.de/galaus/panth.htm

PS: ähm, just another hint:
unlike on the Panther D render there are no floodlights on the Panther G render

Re: German Panther G
 

Way to double post n00b........ it's called the EDIT BUTTON! USE IT!

It's like magic! :eek:----->http://www.gamingforums.com/images/v...ttons/edit.gif

Re: German Panther G
 

Ok just to sort this out, it is a

Pzkpfw V Ausf G Panther early production model. The only question I have is the exhausts.

http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanTanks/PzV-22.jpg

Just to sort any further questions here are more views;

Pzkpfw V Ausf G Panther (Early prod.) mit FG1250
http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanTanks/PzV-17.jpg
http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanTanks/PzV-18.jpg
note rubber roadwheel rims
http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanTanks/PzV-19.jpg
http://www.jagdtiger.de/GermanTanks/PzV-21.jpg

Note also, the zimmerit paste is a postwar addition and commanders turret equipment are a replica. This Panther is regularly driven and was used during the funeral procession of a Wehrmacht General recently.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/panste.jpg
This Panther G was fitted with Henschel Tiger late production roadwheels for the Panther II project. The actual vehicle is held at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds.

May I suggest that when the Ausf D is textured you use the Dark yelllow as all over base coat with either Dark green or Red brown (and combined) as the camm pattern. Then texture the Ausf G with Dark Green overall base coat with Dark yellow and Redbrown camm. Note the above pictures are representative of late war camm and vehicle markings.

If the D is to be used on a winter map then the textures would be Dark yellow with whitewash, this also applies all german armour post 1943. Hence all german armour post November 1944 were darkgreen with whitewash for winter camm or a combination of field green, dark green, red brown, panzer grey and white in a disruptive pattern.

Re: German Panther G
 

about the exhausts we can discusse, but i have pics here showing the exhausts i made (like allready somebody said, germans used what they get, if they had a panther D hull and a panther G tower they simply build a panther D with panther G hull.. so there are MANY different versions) - zimmerit is going to be skinned ... not modelled ... and this rims take to many polys ...

i dunno how much you know about engines or modeling, but we cant make everything we want to do ..

Re: German Panther G
 

Hi,

great model... haven't tested the FH yet, but I'm sure to do so TODAY!!!

I think the Panther G -model had a "shot trap" under the gun mantlet, or in the lower gun mantlet. the shot trap prevented a ricochet from gun mantlet to penetrate upper hull at weak point. The upper hull/ deck was only about 20mm thick, if a recall correctly.


BUT anyway a amazing model....


MikuLEE,..... :rock: