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Anlushac11 November 29th, 2003 03:24 AM

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If I may add

The Panther A and D did have a known problem with overheating and blown head gaskets on the Maybach engine and suffered transmission breakages. The G model used the improved engine and transmission and was a very reliable vehicle.

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11
If I may add

The Panther A and D did have a known problem with overheating and blown head gaskets on the Maybach engine and suffered transmission breakages. The G model used the improved engine and transmission and was a very reliable vehicle.

You're right there, they really took a while to get the Panther ironed out. Although I find it interesting that nobody remembers (in books or documentaries) that for the first 2 years of the war russians drove T-34's into combat with an extra transmission and spare parts tied to the back of them because they were so prone to failure.

javierlopez November 29th, 2003 03:50 AM

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nice again

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Killor
Also note, the Sherman was noted for one thing: Extreme reliability.

I wonder if the Radial engine had anything to do with it? Strange having a tank with an aircraft engine in it. You'd have to wonder how much gearing down that would require.

born2lift November 29th, 2003 03:58 AM

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I think both models are great. Both have the right terret size. Its just that Omnis terruet is turned giving the illusion that it is smaller. All in all I think Omni's Panther is the best so far. Masterminder's model still needs some work. First of all the tracks are to narrow. Second, the tracks sag to much. They should be like Omni's. Third, the lay out of the road wheels is different on each side. Again look at omni's model as his lay out is correct. And last, the barrel seemss to thick and where it ges into the mantlet is wrong. The ferrel where it goes into the mantlet is to long. Again look at Omni's model to compare.
Other than that the G is great. Omni, GREAT job!! I hope you can do as good a job on the skin.

virtus November 29th, 2003 04:27 AM

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sherman was known as tommy cooker ! od name for a tank?

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by virtus
sherman was known as tommy cooker ! od name for a tank?

I believe it was due to even glancing blows causing the tank to burst into flames. One thing that American tankers really resented was when they destroyed a german tank more often than not most of the crew go out alive, while they were assured a fiery painful death if they hit a pothole the wrong way.

Artie November 29th, 2003 05:07 AM

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I just find it hilarious that the Soviet Union, who's armor matched or outdid that of Germany for the entire length of the war has 2 tanks models as compared to Germany's 20+.

TommyGunDaliani November 29th, 2003 05:23 AM

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I think he want kv and IS series

Anlushac11 November 29th, 2003 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Blistex˛
I believe it was due to even glancing blows causing the tank to burst into flames. One thing that American tankers really resented was when they destroyed a german tank more often than not most of the crew go out alive, while they were assured a fiery painful death if they hit a pothole the wrong way.


OK now it wasnt quite that bad that it burst into flames if you looked at it. The Sherman used aviation fuel which burned a little too well. Add to that that the ammo storage was in the sides where it was often hit and that German anti-tank guns had no problems penetrating a Sherman after 1943 and it all adds up to a mess.

Shermans was modified with the wet stowage system where the ammo was stored in water filled bins to quench a fire before it erupted. Also, an armored patch was placed on the side of the hull with intent of improving armor over the ammo. Problem is German gunners learned this and it became an aiming spot.

The avgas was always a problem that never went away. Germany used gasoline engines also but used a fuel additive that made the fuel harder to catch fire.

Besides Tommy cooker the Sherman was also called a Ronson after the famous lighter. The lighter companys motto was "Always lights on the first strike". Just like a Sherman.


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