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U-Boat November 27th, 2003 09:55 PM

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Heres a link of a close up of the Artillery markings

http://picserv.beyond-reality.nl/get...2&check=4ba21d

U-Boat November 27th, 2003 09:58 PM

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the AK is not full but a semi postban but the mp40 and Uzi are full auto. If you want pics of the Uzi i can email or pm you those since its kinda off topic.

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/....php?id=520901

Blistex˛ November 27th, 2003 10:17 PM

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Those of us in Canada have to jump through a shitload of hoops to get firearms. I've got so many unregistered weapons it's not funny.

Going to get my PAL Certificate so that I can legaly register them and buy ammo again.

While I don't agree with America's right to own .50 Cal Sniper Rifles, I do envy the simplicity of owning a firearm in your country. In Canada if you own a pistol you have to call the police and get a certificate just to take it to the shooting range.

My Current Arsenal:

.22 Single shot rifle
.410 Break Shotgun
30-30 Lever Action rifle
K-98 Bolt action rifle
12 guage Pump shotgun

Homemade 9mm Uzi SMG

Oxide November 27th, 2003 10:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistex˛
Those of us in Canada have to jump through a shitload of hoops to get firearms. I've got so many unregistered weapons it's not funny.

Going to get my PAL Certificate so that I can legaly register them and buy ammo again.

While I don't agree with America's right to own .50 Cal Sniper Rifles, I do envy the simplicity of owning a firearm in your country. In Canada if you own a pistol you have to call the police and get a certificate just to take it to the shooting range.

My Current Arsenal:

.22 Single shot rifle
.410 Break Shotgun
30-30 Lever Action rifle
K-98 Bolt action rifle
12 guage Pump shotgun

Homemade 9mm Uzi SMG

Gun-nuts?

VeryPissedOffRob November 27th, 2003 10:25 PM

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No, but with looser laws our civillian arsenal would probably scare the shit out of you americans.

Hey a nuclear warhead doesn't count as a firearm right?

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 03:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxide
Gun-nuts?

Nah! All but the Uzi are for hunting.

.22 for raccoons who are trying to get in the garden.
.410 for partridge
30-30 for wolves that try to get near the calves
k-98 for deer and bears that get too close
12 guage for geese and ducks

The uzi I made for fun.

click here to make your own!

HERE

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 04:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Killor
heh

Why can't we own .50BMG/BP rifles?

Want to know how many people have been killed from them in America?

It's a shockingly high number. ZERO.

It's just that any weapon that can kill someone on the other side of an engine block shouldn't be in civilian hands.

With my K-98 I could shoot a cop and it would go through his bulletproo vest.
With a .50 cal sniper rifle I could shoot a cop and it would go through his vest and 5 of his friends vests as well.

IMO anything that can go right through a Brinks truck shouldn't be readily avaliable on the open market.

Oxide November 29th, 2003 04:19 AM

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hehe good reply Blistex. :D
here in Sweden we have strict laws concerning handguns and it feels great. I love guns but why the hell would I want an arsenal in my home? No racoons in my apartment anyway. ;)

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 06:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Killor
Banning .50 firearms means you ban shotguns as well.

While you mean well, your ignorant knowledge of American law would have you invariably banning the most effective home defense firearm available to date: the shotgun.

BTW: did you read? ZERO DEATHS BY .50 BMG RIFLES!

There's no reason to ban them, just like the Assault Weapons Ban, to save the children! Even if it means well (which the AWB doesn't), it just makes it harder for citizens to employ their GOD GIVEN INALIENABLE RIGHTS.

Shotguns are measured in Guage and are not capable of penetrating entire decade's worth of national geographics (maps included).

I just find that a .50 BMG serves no purpose but to attack targets that a criminal or terrorists would want to. They are virtually useless as hunting rifles since they destroy the meat within a 12" radius.

If you can give me a useful civilian use for a .50 BMG besides killing a Grizzly bear or George Bush then I'd be happy to change my mind.

(FBI if you are reading this, yes I am condoning the murder of your leader, whatcha gonna do about it?)

U-Boat November 29th, 2003 08:37 AM

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"I just find that a .50 BMG serves no purpose but to attack targets that a criminal or terrorists would want to."

I have to disagree with that i saw a guy who owns a AA gattling gun , and lives in Arizona owns a huge ass amount of land and is a millionaire with his own airfield and attack helicopters. They tie glow sticks to kites and let them go at night and a bunch of his friends shoot at it with there m60's and SAW's because if we ban them they just gunna bring them in some how, when you could be putting a Tax on the gun so your Gov could make a profit like on Short Barreld rifles now in the US....

U-Boat November 29th, 2003 08:45 AM

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I guess , i tried buying a Krinkov before and they told me i had to pay a huge ass tax?

U-Boat November 29th, 2003 08:48 AM

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yeah it was an assault, i cant remeber if the stock folded or not if it was post or pre

U-Boat November 29th, 2003 08:51 AM

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heh too late killer i bought an SAR-2 which is the AK74 clone ill post pics of it later. I had to send a letter to the ATF about a muzzle brake and all this crap, but they said i could if no grenade launcnher or anything fit those threads, if they came out with one that fit those threads i had to weld the brake on so it could not be taken off and on like now.

quazi November 29th, 2003 11:39 AM

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Got a little off topic with this thread, didn't you guys :)

Maybee they should unban M16's for public use...

PFC. Bryan November 29th, 2003 11:47 AM

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I think they should as a matter of fact.

McGibs November 29th, 2003 11:54 AM

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...thank god i dont live in the states.

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Killor
OK, you're entitled to your opinion, and because of your ignorance next time I'm going shooting I'm going to pop a few .50 BMG shells into a few old cars. Just for you.

First of all ignorance has nothing to do with it! Just because the people who make your gun laws are incapable of keeping more than one thing in their inbred head doesn't mean that I am wrong.

Wanna know how to ban .50 BMG's without banning shotguns? Say all RIFLES that use the .50 cal shell are banned. I never said anything about using existing gun laws to the letter!

Quote:

If you truly think that something that causes NO CRIME has no place, then why the hell do you need condoms? Or computers? Why the fuck don't you just use P2 333's since you don't need all that power?
WTF do condoms have to do with anything? You're not even making a point!

Because a P2 333 doesn't run Windows XP, and can't play FB1942, also I've yet to see a P2 333 that can cause 10 people's heads to explode in a row.

Also you've yet to give me a useful reason for the .50 BMG besides "givin hicks hardons". I can understand the need to kill an animal at 500 yards, but what I don't see is the need to kill it at 500 yards and still have enough kinetic energy to shatter an engine block on the other side of it.

Whenever gun advocates try to protect their right to own outrageous weapons they usually start sprouting the same 3 lines.

1. It's in the constitution!
2. It's for self defense.
3. And the "generic" insane comment that has no bearing on the conversation.

p.s. you've yet to give me a reason why a person should own a .50 besides shooting old cars.

VeryPissedOffRob November 29th, 2003 08:57 PM

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Go nuts Killor.

*centers Mosin Nagant sites on Killors forehead*

In the name of common sense i shall banish you to the eternal pits of tech support!

VeryPissedOffRob November 29th, 2003 09:14 PM

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what the hell are you talking about?

http://members.cox.net/kjgj13/Weapon..._762x54R_T.JPG

VeryPissedOffRob November 29th, 2003 09:20 PM

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Well that little ring at the end of the barrel must be for decorational purposes then..

CaPtAnInSaYnO November 29th, 2003 09:26 PM

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hmmm... must be

McGibs November 29th, 2003 09:39 PM

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holy fucking shit killer, every post makes you seem more like a steriotypical gun toating redneck. Just shut up alright?

Because they dont cause crime???? what the hell kinda crapass reason is that?!?

I dont see civilians causeing crimes with rocket launchers, does that mean they should be leagle to every joe blow??

Your logic is very painful to comprehend.

judge reinhold November 29th, 2003 09:39 PM

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man those mosins must have been hard to aim without any sites on them

McGibs November 29th, 2003 09:41 PM

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http://www.forchheimerzgebirge.de/bl...sin_nagant.gif

well colour me pink, cuz number 14 and 15 sure as hell look like sights to me.

VeryPissedOffRob November 29th, 2003 09:42 PM

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You're full of shit Killor.

judge reinhold November 29th, 2003 09:42 PM

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you got me, i made a typo! clearly you are the winner today.

McGibs November 29th, 2003 09:44 PM

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...they still have sites...

http://www.mosin-nagant.net/

VeryPissedOffRob November 29th, 2003 09:52 PM

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No shit! Could it be when someone says sites that they in fact mean iron sites? Quite possibly!

judge reinhold November 29th, 2003 09:55 PM

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don't argue with him, you'll only encourage him :rolleyes:

CaPtAnInSaYnO November 29th, 2003 10:09 PM

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i wasnt gunna say anything but killor ur a fuckin retard

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 10:10 PM

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[QUOTE=Killor]All RIFLES that are .50 plus? Now .50 black powder rifles are banned too. Which are not anywhere near as powerful.

Read my freaking post again!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistex˛
Say all RIFLES that use the .50 cal shell are banned.

Muzzleloaders do not use a shell, they use a Lead bullet and a seperate powder charge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killor
The reason why we shouldn't ban them is they DON'T CAUSE ANY FUCKING CRIME, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

To date I don't believe that VX Nerve gas has been used for a crime, does that mean that everyone should be allowed to use it?

Every time I mention banning .50's you don't actually defent the ownership of them but refer to other things that might get banned because of the .50's outlawing.

Blehh November 29th, 2003 10:28 PM

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Whoa Rob how often do you clean your Mosin? Looks brand new!

VeryPissedOffRob November 29th, 2003 10:32 PM

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lol that's not mine. It's just a pic i found on the net that i used for demonstration purposes.

But yeah i do clean it often and it does look like that one... ok maybe the stock's a bit beaten but it's still pretty nice.

Blistex˛ November 29th, 2003 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Killor
.50 Black Powder rifles use lead bullets, yes. They're black powder RIFLES. Rifled barrel. They'd be banned too.

VX Nerve Gas has killed thousands, if I'm not mistaken. Especially in China.

The while using a SHELL was the distinguishing point that I was trying to make, hence the Quoting, and defining of it. And I never said the VX Nerve Gas doesn't kill people, I said that It's never been used in a crime.

All I've done here is started by stating my opinion on an issue and you've resorted in personal attacks calling me ignorant when the only person guilty of that is you since you don't seem to be able to answer a question without going off on a tangent.

I've got 7 NASA supercomputers still trying to figure out how the condom remark relates at all to firearm law.

VeryPissedOffRob November 29th, 2003 10:55 PM

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Condom = Prevents birth of possible criminals = lower crime rate?

McGibs November 29th, 2003 10:57 PM

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that must be it...

Kristov November 29th, 2003 10:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by McGibs
...they still have sites...

http://www.mosin-nagant.net/

As McGibs pointed out..they have sites as well as sights..so make sure you caress that trigger between breaths Rob..or caress the left mouse button between breaths..whichever gets the job done :)

Killor..you are exactly why the NRA gets such a horrible rep and why I never joined it. I was raised around firearms, trained professionally to use them, owned many over the years, and support RESPONSIBLE gun ownership and use. You seem to be the exact opposite of responsible, judging from the numerous posts you've made in these forums and the attitude shown in them(hatred for non-Americans, anyone that disagrees with you, and those are the least of the evils). You said you plan on being a police officer...little career advice..pick another line of work, you won't pass the psych tests.

Gun ownership is part of our US Constitution, true, and I fully support it, but people like Killor make the rest of us gun owners look like bloody minded loons who want to shoot everyone and everything that doesn't agree with us 110%. MOST American's who own guns are NOTHING like him, so please, don't judge us by him. Crimes committed with firearms in the US are usually done by criminals who have guns obtained illegally, same as it is in every OTHER country that has gun control laws(we DO have them in the US ya know, gun control laws, registration, etc).

Now..as to the actual THREAD TOPIC..can't wait for 0.6 and all the updated weapon models/new toys/etc, but, problem is, we have to wait to actually see how things are going to look/work ingame :) The render of the G43 doesn't look a LOT different from what I see ingame right now, scoped that is(couple of maps have the G43 sniper kit). Then again, I don't pay much attention to how the guns look, just how effective, or ineffective, they are, so..don't go by MY judgement on the visual changes :)

D-Fens November 30th, 2003 03:18 AM

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Someone sensible, good. I would like to see a first person screenshot of it before I judge it.

Blehh November 30th, 2003 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryPissedOffRob
lol that's not mine. It's just a pic i found on the net that i used for demonstration purposes.

But yeah i do clean it often and it does look like that one... ok maybe the stock's a bit beaten but it's still pretty nice.

Why Rob, what have you been doing :lol:

Hohenzollern December 16th, 2004 01:20 PM

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While we're on the subject, I think a pic of my collection's centerpiece would do nicely here.

For all those who haven't seen it yet ...heres a great G43 website: http://apfeltor.com/


http://www.gamingforums.com/attachme...id=22289&stc=1

D-Fens December 16th, 2004 02:07 PM

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while we're on the subject?? This thread is a friggin year old!

Komrad_B December 16th, 2004 02:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Fens
while we're on the subject?? This thread is a friggin year old!

I was wondering... With all those talks about Killor and 0.6..........:lol:

Winther December 16th, 2004 02:47 PM

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I remember Killor :P, wasn't he the guy who always flamed people and got banned several times?

USMA2010 December 16th, 2004 02:53 PM

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Viva la Killorlive!

Proud member of the 11PzG!

We are the flaming clan, with Killor, Driver, R4DG, and I all as members. And Anschluac/Bonta-Kun is known to put down an artful dis from time to time.

FactionRecon December 16th, 2004 03:03 PM

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Is Killor still alive? I miss him...:(

In recent news: un-dead threads seen rampaging through Gaming Forums today at around 6 ET. We'll have more on this story as it develops.

Hohenzollern December 16th, 2004 03:05 PM

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ROFLMAO! Yeah it kinda is isn't it. I was viewing the posting on the K98 and this one was listed at the bottom of my webpage. I never looked at the date! LOL Blame GF for keeping old old postings in the hotbed.

MkH^ December 16th, 2004 03:08 PM

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Well it's still better to post in existing thread than start a new one.

unrealgama December 16th, 2004 04:39 PM

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I HATE it looks cartoonie

terminal-strike December 16th, 2004 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hohenzollern
While we're on the subject, I think a pic of my collection's centerpiece would do nicely here.

For all those who haven't seen it yet ...heres a great G43 website: http://apfeltor.com/

hey that pic link is broke man! Can u get another dl location or maybe upload so we can see it.

Tas December 17th, 2004 06:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [11PzG] USMA2010
Viva la Killorlive!

Proud member of the 11PzG!

We are the flaming clan, with Killor, Driver, R4DG, and I all as members. And Anschluac/Bonta-Kun is known to put down an artful dis from time to time.

yay for you! :beer:


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