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striderx2048 October 5th, 2003 01:02 PM

deployed .30cal
 
should use the prone animation, instead of the crouch.

zamback October 5th, 2003 01:11 PM

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yes! and make it turnable again!

Lateralus October 5th, 2003 01:55 PM

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All the machine gun animations should be fixed so that the gunner is prone almost level with the top of the gun. IRL machine gunners did not expose themselves very much over the top of a bunker.

Oh and I also agree on making them more turnable. I grabbed a .50cal kit on Bulge and ran around the whole map looking for a good spot to deploy it, but there isn't much when the thing only turns 30 degrees or so. it should be the same as stationary Browning .50; that is to say, nearly 180 degrees around.

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Maximus October 5th, 2003 02:38 PM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
Do you have a 50 cal and a 30 cal for infantry?

striderx2048 October 5th, 2003 05:03 PM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
its .30cal, not way its .50. that for mounted vechiles. all other stationary MGs should use the crouch animation. the Gun on a stick on a sandbag MG should be replaced with tripod mounted MGs.

Maximus October 5th, 2003 05:08 PM

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actualy they had 50 cal machinguns which could be deployed by a team just like a 30 cal. I am also pretty sure that the allies MG that DICE modeled is the M2 50 cal machinegun used in WW2 and today in the US army.

SensesFail October 5th, 2003 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximus
actualy they had 50 cal machinguns which could be deployed by a team just like a 30 cal. I am also pretty sure that the allies MG that DICE modeled is the M2 50 cal machinegun used in WW2 and today in the US army.

the deployed machinegun is a .50 cal...the .30 cal have different handles...

maybe the FH mod is using the .50 cal as a model for their .50 and .30...but if you ever look as a .30 cal in real life you'll notice it has a single handle vs. the twin handles of the .50 cal...

oh...and most deployable machineguns for infantry divisions were .30 cal...

today they still use the .50 cal and if you see it fire you'll notice its more of a cannon than anything...they are pretty big and difficult to move...the .30 cal is much lighter and less powerful but can be carried and mounted on lighter vehicles like jeeps...

heh...a .50 cal sounds like "chunk, chunk, chunk"

while a .30 cal sounds like the ingame sounds...

Maximus October 5th, 2003 06:09 PM

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yea I was pretty sure that they just used the M2 by Dice for both 30 and 50 cal. Or maybe they only have 50 cals on planes.......

I thought to myself if that MG on the back of the jeep is supposed to be a 50 cal than the jeep would be doing flips when it fired. :)

raslin October 5th, 2003 06:41 PM

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Its a 50 cal. Dice wrongly skinned the ammo box to say 7.92mm(30 cal).

SensesFail October 5th, 2003 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raslin
Its a 50 cal. Dice wrongly skinned the ammo box to say 7.92mm(30 cal).

in real life...it should be a .30 cal on top of that jeep...heh...so instaed of just wrongly skinning the gun they placed it wrongly...

I hope FH puts in there .30 cal to take out those misconceptions...

Domingo Chavez October 5th, 2003 08:51 PM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
i like how the machine guns can become mines too

Blehh October 6th, 2003 03:27 PM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raslin
Its a 50 cal. Dice wrongly skinned the ammo box to say 7.92mm(30 cal).

Isn't the .30 a 7.62?

SensesFail October 6th, 2003 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidey
Isn't the .30 a 7.62?

you...my good man...are right...and when your right...your right...and you're always right...

http://www.armygear.net/armygear/images/items/0003.jpg

[BC] Heimdall October 6th, 2003 03:54 PM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
Call me noob, but i can't figure out where and when to get that 30 Cal. I only saw it once on Bocage and it was deployed already. So my question is howe do you deploy un deploy it? How do you move it and where can i find it?

Blehh October 6th, 2003 04:14 PM

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Now if only I would have the knowledge of all the equivalants. All I know are 7.62=.30 and 12.7=.50. I need to find a complete list of conversions :uhm:

The Jackalx2k October 6th, 2003 04:20 PM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
No worries I have already modeled a .30 cal for FH =)

I also just finished modeling a new G43 to replace the one that is ingame now.

Kämpfer October 6th, 2003 04:21 PM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidey
Now if only I would have the knowledge of all the equivalants. All I know are 7.62=.30 and 12.7=.50. I need to find a complete list of conversions :uhm:

...?
\Conversion/
0.1cal=2.54mm
1mm=0.04cal

the_move October 6th, 2003 04:26 PM

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you need at least 3 men to move a .50 cal.

1 for the gun, 1 for the tripod and 1 for the ammo.

The M1919 .30 cal was more common at US GIs, because with it´s 18 kilos (no ammo) it was
easier to move. Further it had no buttstock, but some kind of shoulder rings, which made it
suitable for paratroopers.

Blehh October 6th, 2003 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kämpfer
...?
\Conversion/
0.1cal=2.54mm
1mm=0.04cal

They never taught us in math class :lol: Kämpfer is the greatest :bows:

SensesFail October 7th, 2003 12:34 AM

Re: deployed .30cal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidey
They never taught us in math class :lol: Kämpfer is the greatest :bows:

heh...what I'm confused on is caliber...

I always thought calibers were the grooves inside the barrel of the gun...but I just looked on dictionary.com and I guess caliber just means the barrel diameter...

what are those grooves inside the gun called again? Anyone know?

but when you talk about .50 cal aren't you saying 0.5 inch bullet right???

(heh...just making sure I know what I'm talking about...)

oohhh, and Kampfer...are you going to post any new screenshots of your creations?

Cragger October 7th, 2003 02:57 AM

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Those groves are called rifling, hence the name rifle. They impart spin to the round as it travels down the barrel to stabilize it and improve accuracy.

Rifling is measured in twist rate, the units being 1 full twist / the barrel length it took.

So a .30-06 Springfield with 1:10 twist rate, the rifling makes a full twist in 10 inches of barrel travel.

And yes .50 caliber is 1/2 inch. Caliber with a leading .XXXX number was a term used to describe diameters inside an inch instead of saying "five tenths and sixteen hundreds caliber"... You can see why this was shortened. Sizes over an inch (And under it to about .6) tended to only occur in cannon or mortar pieces at which point the round or (ball) was simply measured in its weight. 2 pounder, 5 pounder, etc.


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