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Old May 16th, 2003   #11
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I am not a rambo. I am a role player i do what i have to to see my team win. Having a driver and a gunner seprate is just a bad idea IMO many people will agree. If you have a bad driver and a good gunner the tank is a simple waste of resources.
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Hey, heres a hint...a bad person can take a single controlled vehicle...and be worse!

Seperate gunners take teamwork, and if you get someone who is bad in it,then get out! dont take out any chance of teamwor, just because some dont do it...
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i think it's a bad idea to separate the main gun operator and the driver unless there is a possibility to communicate with each other
in a fast and effective way (voice over ip) like in cs. but that's not the case here. not everyone has bc ts or rw and you can't expect them to install it.
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No no the driver/gunner spot in S9R mod sucks. Sometimes you have to put gameplay over realism.
THINK ABOUT IT

the MG'er has only a small frontal radios to turn his gun, doesnt it make sence that he should drive it?

the main weapon usully is on a 360* pivot, he can hit no matter where the driver is going....


the MG'er in the front should drive...
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I do like the idea of a hull MG spot. But having a seperate main gunner and driver is just bad.

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I like the idea of the Hull MG position like whats in S9 but I'd use it more as a safety if the tank has the Cupola MG. From the Cupola, you can cover almost every angle but you're higly exposed. In that case you can switch to the Hull MG, where you have a limited area to fire but relative safety. As far as the BF tanks go, you're neither just the gunner or driver but a micronized tank commander in control of the tanks functions as though you were the whole crew. Call it Rambo but Rambo is fun and with less frustration than someone trying to do donuts or ramping a river while you try to get that vital hit on an IS-2.
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the hull gun on S9 is seperate from the driver/gunner position. If you seperated the driver and the gunner position you'd have way to much problems with people not wanting to drive, not enough people in general, and communication problems.

And most german tanks didnt have top-mounted MGs. There was a mounting point on most of them, but i dont think they all had them.
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well, tanks are a bit too arcad-y right now... the game is to simple...

this would make things a bit more complex, and would make the hull gun more effective.... (not to mention the realism of it)


another idea, how about only the heavy tanks (tiger, ect) that can kill in pretty much one hit have seprate top gunner positions...

light tanks, with weaker guns and armor, would use the driver is gunner concept...
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I like the idea of the Hull MG position like whats in S9 but I'd use it more as a safety if the tank has the Cupola MG. From the Cupola, you can cover almost every angle but you're higly exposed. In that case you can switch to the Hull MG, where you have a limited area to fire but relative safety. As far as the BF tanks go, you're neither just the gunner or driver but a micronized tank commander in control of the tanks functions as though you were the whole crew. Call it Rambo but Rambo is fun and with less frustration than someone trying to do donuts or ramping a river while you try to get that vital hit on an IS-2.
Not in all tanks with cupola MGs are exposed points at the M3 Grant/Lee and in FH MGs will kill infantry no more annoying soldiers that surive 5 shots from a .50 cal
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In a 20 person server whcih is about average, if it was a tank battle map, you could only have 5 tanks per team. That's just not enough for me. And there aren't many 64 player servers. And I'd probably get dizzy trying shoot while some other guy is driving.
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