Forgotten Hope News Update: 2nd July 2008

[Johannes]

The Breda M30's total lack of awesome is what makes it so awesome in the first place! I used to love running around in Road to Rome (where it was mirrored, the mag, not even a clip as it should be, being inserted on the left side; like the M1 Garand in BF1942, actually) looking for those guns to pick up. Whenever I was an Allied soldier, upon picking up the Breda M30, I'd immediately type "FEATHER!" It was my war cry.

(It refers to the plumes on the Italian helmet.)

I can't wait to use the Carcano 1891 and the 1891/38 short rifle Carcano, but even more so I can't wait to see their animations. The Carcano rifles used a Mannlicher type magazine, so the clips had to be inserted whole and ejected from the bottom of the rifle upon firing the last cartridge.

This is my favorite update in a long time! I can't wait to join the battle as a Soldato.

[Meadow]

Oh.
My.
God.

Gentlemen, my first born child is in the mail.

[McGibs]

Mannlicher type magazine, so the clips had to be inserted whole and ejected from the bottom of the rifle upon firing the last cartridge.

Whoh, thats news to me, lol! Learn something new everyday.
Guess I should tell killi...

Also, apparently carcanos were the most common rifle issued to the Volksturm. We'll have to remember that for old-man berlin fights.

[hockeywarrior2]

Originally Posted by McGibs

Whoh, thats news to me, lol! Learn something new everyday.
Guess I should tell killi...

Also, apparently carcanos were the most common rifle issued to the Volksturm. We'll have to remember that for old-man berlin fights.

I Lol'd at "old-man berlin fights". LOL I can imagine the WWII fanboy outcry at the historical inaccuracy should you not have known. I personally would have never noticed, since ive never seen the thing fired in person.

BTW McGibs and any other devs who need to know, here's a video I found of a guy firing a Carcano and it shows the clip coming out the bottom at 0:38

+ YouTube Video

[Johannes]

Originally Posted by McGibs

Whoh, thats news to me, lol! Learn something new everyday.
Guess I should tell killi...

Also, apparently carcanos were the most common rifle issued to the Volksturm. We'll have to remember that for old-man berlin fights.

Yeah, it was the same system with the French Berthier 1916 rifle (most common rifle of the French army), except to help prevent dust and debris from getting in the extended magazine of the Berthier there was a trapdoor release hatch on the bottom rather than a simple open hole (as was the case with the older Berthier M1907-15 model, as well as the Carcano rifles). The trap door could be opened to allow the clip to fall through, or pushing in the next clip would do that for you. You would then close the door manually, or prefer to just leave it open during periods of sustained fire.

Concerning the Carcano M1938...

I think the M91/38 designation is only used for the Carcano short rifles (the Italians didn't classify this as a carbine/moschetto like they did the Carcano 1891 cavalry carbine, but rather as a short rifle meant to replace the M1891) that were converted to or produced as 6.5 mm. The shortage of 7.35 mm ammunition was such that the original 7.35 mm M1938 Carcano rifles were usually converted to (and henceforth produced as) 6.5 mm beginning sometime in 1940 I think. So if this Carcano short rifle is the 6.5 mm type, then the M91/38 designation is correct. If, however, it is the original 7.35 mm type, then it should simply be designated as an M1938 Carcano fucile corto.

[Sir Apple]

Looks sexy FH-team, keep up the good work!

[torenico]

Breda, it was on FH1 right? on tobruk.. right?

Wow, i think the italisn will be in FH2, i can feel it.

*Waits for dream crusher*

[Johannes]

No, not the Breda M30 LMG.

The machine gun the Italians used in FH1 on Tobruk was the M37 Breda, a superior successor to the M30.

[Cadyshack]

Originally Posted by Johannès

No, not the Breda M30 LMG.

The machine gun the Italians used in FH1 on Tobruk was the M37 Breda, a superior successor to the M30.

Correct. It was also used in the deployable mg role in FH1. The LMGs on that map were Mg34s.

[torenico]

Originally Posted by Johannès

No, not the Breda M30 LMG.

The machine gun the Italians used in FH1 on Tobruk was the M37 Breda, a superior successor to the M30.

Oh god, im totally wrong whit this :P, where did you learn this?